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Old 04-07-2013, 04:51 AM   #1
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Default Tweaks for PZ Visionaire

Well after spending the last 2 years concentrating on MRs for work I finally have some time to get back to planes. I thought it would be fun to work on learning 3D. I talked to quite a few RC friends and settled on the PZ Visionaire. I was pretty impressed (as I am typically from PZ) with its flight characteristics. I'm starting to work on beginner 3D maneuvers with pretty good success.

I'm curious what modifications or tweaks you all have done to the VisionAire. I assume there may be a better performing APC prop to put on it. Anyone have a suggestion 12x6E?

Any other tweaks?
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Old 04-07-2013, 06:06 AM   #2
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I haven't even had a chance to fly mine yet. I've had it almost 3 weeks now and haven't had a chance to get to the field...

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Old 04-08-2013, 08:04 PM   #3
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Ive only had mine for a couple weeks also and flown it maybe 10 times.
It seemed kind of plenty tail heavy when I first checked CG to the suggested measured point in the manual even with the battery all the way forward.I found inflight I felt like I wanted it more tailheavy for 3D flight especially inverted spinning stuff.
I like how it flies with the battery all the way back but it does give it a little more tendency to stall/drop on landing if you sneak in with a little power and higher alpha during final flare.
Thats kind of expected though being a bit more tailheavy.
Not really a tweak just an observation.Doesnt bother me at all though.
Good thread.Will try to keep it going as I fly it more and actually tweak on it.For now Im having fun the way it is out of the box.
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Old 04-13-2013, 03:53 PM   #4
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Don't know if you guys have any hastles installing the batt but I did. I took out one of the velcro straps as one is more than enough. I took the strap I took out and made a couple of little squares hot glued to the foam sides of the fuse. to hold them out of the road while installing the batt.. Much easier to install now.

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Hello all i found that on mine grass t/o and landings were very challenging so i bought some new foam Du-Bro gear. The tail wheel had to be shaved out via a dremel as the rim was too thick and i couldn't get the screw on black holder to go on. I as well found that the tail gear hole in the rim was sloppy as the wire for the tail gear was very thin compared to the front so i filled it with CA and re drilled to a smaller hole. The front Gear fit flawlessly. Sizes are 3 inch front gear 1 3/4 inch tail gear

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JZ,

I don't have one but a few of our club members do and they all say that the plane flies right out of the box. They're the rave. I watched them fly and they seem like really good fliers plus you have a gyro in there. Only saw one in the bin-LOL

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My usual solution for the axle being small (dia) for the hole in the wheel is a brass tube. Its great especially when the brass is a press fit in the wheel. Brass bushing will last the life of the airplane.
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Wow nice idea on the small axle...why didnt I think of that...I got a 2 pack so I will pick up some brass tubing tonight and have at it and post the pic " now that i have thumbnails fig out sry for the small pics of the mod.

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JZ,

I don't have one but a few of our club members do and they all say that the plane flies right out of the box. They're the rave. I watched them fly and they seem like really good fliers plus you have a gyro in there. Only saw one in the bin-LOL

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Ya there great but up here in Seattle the grass grows faster than they can cut it from all the rain so the tail was dragging and by binding the rudder.

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I just put the 2nd flight on my Visionaire and amazed how solid it feels. I'm not (yet) a 3D flyer but if this aircraft doesn't instill some confidence I don't what will.
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I just put the 2nd flight on my Visionaire and amazed how solid it feels. I'm not (yet) a 3D flyer but if this aircraft doesn't instill some confidence I don't what will.
So would you say it is a good choice now that I am bored with a hopped up T-28 and ULS? Been thinking that this would be fun, but sure can get windy in North Texas. BTW first post -- woo hooo
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So would you say it is a good choice now that I am bored with a hopped up T-28 and ULS? Been thinking that this would be fun, but sure can get windy in North Texas. BTW first post -- woo hooo
I've traveled in Texas, including North and West Texas. And it was WINDY!

That Visionaire model is a very good model. Four guys in my club have one, and two of those guys also fly giant scale gasser models. This Visionaire model is about as acrobatic as one could desire.

One guy's giant scale model has a 120 cc gasser up front. Guess which model he flies the most?

If your field has a lot of high winds, check out those high speed electric jet foamies with the pusher props. At our field, when the wind goes above 15 - 20 MPH, the giant scale models get grounded, and out come those foamie jets. At 90 MPH plus, they pretty much can handle any wind. Be warned though, these foamie jets are NOT TRAINERS!!!

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I've had mine since April. Put over 100 packs through it. It hovers well, inverted flat spins like an angel, and lands at a crawl. I love it. I've tubbed it in from 20 feet up a few times on hovers gone bad, and the thing only breaks props, which are kind of hard to find. I've broken 4 props so far in like 5 months, but I fly the thing like I stole it! It has taken some HARD hits to the nose, and the foam shows the wrinkling, and the battery door doesn't quite fit like it should, but the thing still flies like a dream! I love mine!

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