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Old 05-29-2013, 12:44 PM   #1
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This composite EPP/plywood Edge is rapidly becoming my favourite 3D model, despite it also being my cheapest! It really does fly very much like balsa but it's still got a lot of the weight and toughness advantages of foam.

I'm pretty 'dumb thumbed' when it comes to 3D but with the Edge I have finally been able to start to hold semi stable hovers at reasonably low level. Still nowehere near the standard of the 3D pros but my improvement since getting this model is huge (who says you cant teach old dogs new tricks!), so I'm pretty stoked-up about it!

Anyway, here's a video of the last flight yesterday evening taken just as the sun was going down:
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I really cant recommend this model highly enough....
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Old 05-29-2013, 01:12 PM   #2
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If I didn't know better I would have thought that was Joe Smith flying !

Details of the plane? looks and flies great.


Maker? Okay, got it. Where available? Rough cost ? Needed to complete? I'm in need of a low-cost EPP 3D plane. This one looks like a very nice candidate. Was looking at the e-flight Yak but it's not cheap by any means. Twisted Hobbies has a few also.

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Old 05-29-2013, 02:24 PM   #3
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That would be Joe Smith the brick-layer, not Joe Smith the 3D prodigy. Having said that I did drag the tail in the grass on a low level, high alpha, KE pass the other day, something I saw the real Joe do on video once. He probably did it deliberately though!

The model is 48Ē span EPP/plywood composite Edge 540 originally developed by Skywing and Wattaplane. Itís available from bestvaluerc.com . Bestvalue also have the similar EPP Slick which is supposed to be every bit as good. Recently HobbyKing also got the Edge in stock and I picked it up from the local UK Hobbyking warehouse which saved a pile of cash on shipping. Iím not sure if itís in other local warehouses yet?

The ARF kit is very complete and of high quality, it even comes with a spinner! About the only thing you will need are some 4mm nylon bolts as the landing gear is held on with these and (by design) they break if you land heavy.

I wanted to keep it affordable so the motor is a Turnigy SK3 3542 1000kv, ESC is a 60A ZTW that I had spare, batteries are 3s 2200mAh which I already had plenty of. Prop is an APCe 13x6.5 which again I already had.

On this prop the motor exceeds its recommended amps by a fair margin (touches 60A on fresh battery) but in flight itís not been a problem and performance is very good. Iím also about to try out a Sunnysky 2820 920kv motor which a lot of the guys are using and which should take a 14Ē prop.

Servo wells are cut for a Hitec HS-65Mg size servo. Buying cheap servos can be something of a gamble. In this case I hedged my bets and put in Ďcheapoí HK servos on the ailerons and rudder and used a quality Savox SH-0255 on the elevator (I already had the Savox). I figure if one aileron or the rudder servo fails I have a chance but if the elevator fails its toast! Also the Savox has lots of torque which is useful if I want big throw on the elevator.
Iíve been pleasantly surprised by the cheap HK servos so far. They are pretty fast and precise and havenít given me any problems other than a little Ďjitterí which is not uncommon on digital metal gear servos and for which there is a simple fix (involving Velcro)

Total cost to get it in the air was about £100 ($150) though that would be a bit higher if not for the spares I had laying around.

When I get home Iíll post links to the actual items I used.
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Ok, purchasing links:

From Bestvalue Rc:
Edge ARF: http://bestvaluerc.com/shop/shopexd.asp?id=364
Edge package with motor, ESC and servos: http://bestvaluerc.com/shop/shopexd.asp?id=368

From Hobbyking (international warehouse)
Edge ARF: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...20mm_ARF_.html
Servos (ailerons and rudder): http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...0_10s_12g.html
Servo (elevator): Savox SH-0255 or: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...1kg_16sec.html
Motor: http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...arehouse_.html
ESC: whatever your favourite is....
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Thanks Jet !

My hope is that HK will stock this one in the US. I may have to wait till the cows come home. Very nice model. Like to the idea of going with a robust elevator servo like the Savox or Hitec 85mg

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The 85MG would be a fair bit too big for the servo well, plus a bit on the heavy side. you might shoe-horn it in but I'd not like to try.

And yeah, international shipping is a bit of a killer.
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Thanks Jet !

My hope is that HK will stock this one in the US. I may have to wait till the cows come home. Very nice model. Like to the idea of going with a robust elevator servo like the Savox or Hitec 85mg

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Hobby king has it already under a different name of course . joe i want one also http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__29765__H_King_Edge_540T_EPP_Light_Plywood_3D_Aer obatic_Airplane_1220mm_ARF_.html
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Thanks Joe,
But your link is for the International Warehouse. I found this one but I don't thin it's the same. It's all balsa. Jet's version is a combo of EPP & balsa.

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...00mm_ARF_.html
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The wattsaplane has the same ply inside of it and iam pretty sure its the same plane just a little cheaper. http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...20mm_ARF_.html
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Here is the rcg thread on it ,i want one too. joe http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1727542
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Yep, that's the one ! Except it's from the International Warehouse. I might send them an email to see if they expect to sell these babies from the US Warehouse. Of course, they'll bump up the price to offset the reduced shipping costs. So maybe in the end, it's a wash.
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I keep hitting the USA warehouse and it sends me to the other site. Darn munchkins . I thought i seen it on page two of the fun and aerobatict planes USA warehouse but i could be wrong. joe
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Been on a binge lately. Need to slow down but when the weather is like it has been my mind starts wandering. Don't tell my wife but my Art-Tech AT-6 Texan arrives tomorrow. The Omega-130 should arrive from 3DHS on Friday as will the (2) Frysky Fasst rx's I ordered from Value Hobby. Wouldn't you know it? I'm traveling tomorrow and Friday. When I get home, I know I'll get "the look". Next up is the Dynam FW-190 but I might sneak in a 540 edge as described here.

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Originally Posted by dahawk View Post
Been on a binge lately. Need to slow down but when the weather is like it has been my mind starts wandering. Don't tell my wife but my Art-Tech AT-6 Texan arrives tomorrow. The Omega-130 should arrive from 3DHS on Friday as will the (2) Frysky Fasst rx's I ordered from Value Hobby. Wouldn't you know it? I'm traveling tomorrow and Friday. When I get home, I know I'll get "the look". Next up is the Dynam FW-190 but I might sneak in a 540 edge as described here.

Yikes !

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Yea i know that look ,i have a secret airplane fund and have stuff delivered to my company shop, then walk it in proud to my work shop when she's is at work. lmao joe
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Flying again today, the Edge had become my firm favourite:
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Wow ! Now that's some flying ! Sure that wasn't Joe Smith? LOL What a nice field too . You're spoiled Jet.
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I thought I had a goof video in the can when two dogs decided to chase the plane all over the field, but the camera battery had died
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