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Old 08-16-2013, 05:01 PM   #26
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On the other hand the world is full of stupid people. Just remove warning labels and the problem solves itself.

ROFL! If only it were that simple!!!

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Originally Posted by dereckbc View Post
Want hot coffee to go? Not anymore someone sued McDonalds to make sure coffee is not hot any more.

On the other hand the world is full of stupid people. Just remove warning labels and the problem solves itself.
Have a good buddy who is a lawyer. This is a case that gets a great deal of "misquoting" as most don't know the facts of the case. McDonalds really does not want the full story out there. He has studied this case in detail. Funny that the victim was made out to be thick or stupid. That was far from the truth.

Well turns out the coffee was hot enough to MELT the container enough that the cup completely failed. It was not spilled, dumped or tipped over. The container melted then the boiling hot coffee burned the customer.

McDee's got just what they deserved and made changes to protect consumers.

Two sides to every story.

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Originally Posted by AndyKunz View Post
Well, you can continue to speculate, but it isn't going to make anybody publish their data. Data is expensive and helps us beat the competition. Why should anybody share that?

It isn't about brands, I agree - all the big-name brands work; we have to, or we would end up dying.

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Yeah all the big name brands!

As for me, I'll never put one of those rip off, or counterfeit receivers in any of my models. Not worth it.

What would happen if someone has a bad accident with a radio failure, winds up in court, and the lawyers find out your model had a cheap rip off counterfeit receiver in it? Just wondering.

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Gents, I am going to delete the WAY off topic discussions about industrial power systems and horrifying photos of burned bodies that have absolutely noting to do with this discussion.

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Yeah all the big name brands!

As for me, I'll never put one of those rip off, or counterfeit receivers in any of my models. Not worth it.

What would happen if someone has a bad accident with a radio failure, winds up in court, and the lawyers find out your model had a cheap rip off counterfeit receiver in it? Just wondering.
Why would this be any different from having a Futaba Radio with a failed Futaba receiver?

2.4 GHz is an open band
Protocols can not be copywrited
In fact Hobbico is publishing the SLT protocol.

As long as the actual receiver design is not copied there is nothing rip off or counterfeit about it. This is a normal evolution of the market. It occurred in 72 MHz and it will occur in 2.4 GHz.

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Gents, I am going to delete the WAY off topic discussions about industrial power systems and horrifying photos of burned bodies that have absolutely noting to do with this discussion.
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Why would this be any different from having a Futaba Radio with a failed Futaba receiver?

2.4 GHz is an open band
Protocols can not be copywrited
In fact Hobbico is publishing the SLT protocol.

As long as the actual receiver design is not copied there is nothing rip off or counterfeit about it. This is a normal evolution of the market. It occurred in 72 MHz and it will occur in 2.4 GHz.
Good question. Some of those off brand receivers do not have a very good record.

We had a very bad RC accident in this area several years ago. The resulting court case was not fun for anyone. (The RC pilot eventually won)

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Gents, I am going to delete the WAY off topic discussions about industrial power systems and horrifying photos
Sorry bout that.
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Copyrights apply to written words, music film and stuff like that not RC equipment or indeed protocols.

You can patent your devices however. Spektrum has done that for DSM, DSM2 and DSMX. I think they have also done stuff like quick connect and model match.

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I presume they are working hard to defend those hardware patents. But I don't think you can patent a protocol. but I am no lawyer.

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You bet you can... As has Spektrum. Futaba has on FAAST as well.
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