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Old 10-13-2013, 08:56 AM   #1
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Hi Everyone Whats the best Canopy glue to use, I tried to glue a canopy to the outside edge of a balsa hatch with 5 min Epoxy and just made a mess and the canopy just popped loose from the hatch, my good old trusted 5 min epoxy does not like smooth plastic, 1st attempt Failed, I cleaned off all the old epoxy, sanded the canopy edge a little and tried some Multi purpose adhesive, it looks and smells like that Clear Vinyl Glue, Dang that stuff Stinks, I have my room ventilated with a fan, but the fumes still got to me and gave me a headache, been fighting this canopy all day, the canopy is made from a thicker plastic than normal, its on the stiff side, Well I am going to let it dry over night and see what happens, this is the 2nd attempt, if that fails, i might have to cut the canopy down a little more and glue it to the top surface, where there will be no stress on the plastic, maybe that might work, I had to cut down a larger canopy to make it fit on a scratch built plane, Take care and have fun, Chellie

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The LHS owner sold me Formula '560' "The World's Best Canopy Glue" (That's what it says on the bottle) from Pacer. But he said it's the same as Elmers white glue. It's worked great on my foamies. Dries clear and stays flexible.
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The LHS owner sold me Formula '560' "The World's Best Canopy Glue" (That's what it says on the bottle) from Pacer. But he said it's the same as Elmers white glue. It's worked great on my foamies. Dries clear and stays flexible.
Thank you I will have to try it, Elmers glue dries kind of a white color, so it must be a little different, Take care, Chellie

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I'll second the formula 560. I think it's also called rc56 or was at one time. I wouldn't put a canopy on without it. Goes on milky, dries clear and and flexible. When dry, it has an excellent bond.
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Pacer Formula 560 it what I use as well. Despite what the LHS guy said it isn't the same as Elmer's, not even close. An alternative is very careful use of thin CA, wicked under the edge of the canopy in VERY small amounts to keep it from fogging the clear plastic.
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I use "Wallpaper Repair Glue" by Zinsser from the local hardware store. It also smells like Elmer's glue. Takes a while to dry, but dries clear. It's rubbery and holds tight. Can also be pealed off if stuck to smooth plastic.

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I'll second the formula 560. I think it's also called rc56 or was at one time. I wouldn't put a canopy on without it. Goes on milky, dries clear and and flexible. When dry, it has an excellent bond.
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Pacer Formula 560 it what I use as well. Despite what the LHS guy said it isn't the same as Elmer's, not even close. An alternative is very careful use of thin CA, wicked under the edge of the canopy in VERY small amounts to keep it from fogging the clear plastic.
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I use "Wallpaper Repair Glue" by Zinsser from the local hardware store. It also smells like Elmer's glue. Takes a while to dry, but dries clear. It's rubbery and holds tight. Can also be pealed off if stuck to smooth plastic.
Thanks Everyone I will try the Formula 560 and Wallpaper glue, Something has to work Take care, Chellie

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Doesn't matter - I'm still gonna blow your canopy off....
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Doesn't matter - I'm still gonna blow your canopy off....

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Originally Posted by xmech2k View Post
The LHS owner sold me Formula '560' "The World's Best Canopy Glue" (That's what it says on the bottle) from Pacer. But he said it's the same as Elmers white glue. It's worked great on my foamies. Dries clear and stays flexible.
Yup, Plus1 on that "Worlds Best Canopy Glue".

It starts off milky white so you know where it is. Then 24 hours later, its completely transparent. And, properly applied, it stays put.

Be ready to put lots of blue painting tape or similar to hold the canopy in place for 24 hours or so.

Also, I wouldn't use CA. Did that once. Don't ask.

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Solvent free contact adhesive .... but join the two BEFORE it is tacky-dry.

Silicon glue ....

On some of my canopies - I've actually taped them on ... knowing I had to do framing - I used desired frame colour insulation tape .... as you can stretch it tight to remove wrinkles / creases. The beauty of this - is the strengthening of canopy against splits etc.

CA - no - as many foams don't like it ... and if any runs - it fogs the plastic.

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Originally Posted by solentlife View Post
Solvent free contact adhesive .... but join the two BEFORE it is tacky-dry.

Silicon glue ....

On some of my canopies - I've actually taped them on ... knowing I had to do framing - I used desired frame colour insulation tape .... as you can stretch it tight to remove wrinkles / creases. The beauty of this - is the strengthening of canopy against splits etc.

CA - no - as many foams don't like it ... and if any runs - it fogs the plastic.

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Yep , I Have a Love / Hate Relation ship with Canopies I love the way they look with a pilot inside, But I Hate to try to fit them and glue them in Place with out making a Mess Scratch one canopy I fudged it up , Ok Off to try to find another canopy that might fit better, Take care, Chellie

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You want to try the compound curve glazing of my J3 cub ... I gave up trying to glue the front part ... in the end I used clear tape and had that long enough to fold round formers etc. to hold.

I'm still trying to figure out a way to do that one. But stupid thing is - after various hard landings, cartwheels etc. - its still in place and fine !

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I often wonder about Aleene's Tacky Glue sold at craft stores. It looks and smells a lot like canopy glue. I haven't tried it yet.
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+1 w/ Formula 560. Dries clear.

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I often wonder about Aleene's Tacky Glue sold at craft stores. It looks and smells a lot like canopy glue. I haven't tried it yet.
Many of the brand name glues we use are available under generic or craft names ... often greater volume or cheaper price ...

If you have an example of the Hobby Shop glue ... a careful comparison of label showing type, composition, warnings and use ... gives a very good indicator to use to determine the generic variety.

Gorila Glue is a good example ... Bison PU Wood glue is exactly same in all respects in label description of type, use and warnings etc. In use it exhibits exact same characteristics ... foaming, drying time, sandability, etc. etc.

It's worth testing it ...

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