Wattflyer RC Network: RC Universe :: RCU Magazine :: RCU Forums :: RCU Classifieds :: RCU User Reviews :: RCU YouTube
Home Who's Online Calendar Today's Posts RealTime Post Spy Mark Forums Read
Go Back   WattFlyer RC Electric Flight Forums - Discuss radio control eflight > Electric R/C Airplanes > ParkFlyers
Register Members List Wattflyer Extras Articles Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Social Groups

ParkFlyers Talk about all backyard and parkflyer aircraft here

Thank you for your support (hide ads)
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 05-31-2006, 09:08 PM   #26
qban_flyer
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Thumbs up

Originally Posted by vax6335 View Post
If you don't like the two piece shtick so much, why not just glue/fuse/solder/weld the thing so it never comes apart and everyone can be happy again? I don't like a two piece thingy either, but why not just make it a permanent one piece?
It won't have the integrity of a solid one piece boom. The break is forth of the tail wheel bracket, so hard tail first landings will make it "snap". It is something those who hit brickwalls and light poles with their Slow Sticks won't have to worry about.

One alternative would be to get a "spare" boom from one of the places that sells parts for the GWS Slow Stick and keep the new one for "modified" versions of the model.
 
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2006, 09:12 PM   #27
qban_flyer
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Lightbulb

Originally Posted by bsoder View Post
Qban, aside from the 2-piece fuse, is there anything else you don't like about the new stick?
Nope.

I am giving my opinion based on the photos and comments posted by the thread originator here. I trust the only screw up is just the split boom. Bad enough that it is ahead of the tail wheel bracket, where the boom is at its weakest point. That plastic joiner won't survive more than a few hard landings. :o
 
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2006, 09:26 PM   #28
bsoder
Member
 
bsoder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Mesa, AZ
Posts: 512
Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts
iTrader: (2)
Friends: (1)
Default

Turn the fuse around, use a 4" piece of hardwood to join the sections with epoxy, done. A little more work, tho.

I wish it was one piece as well. I haven't gotten one of the new kits yet, so I'll reserve judgement on the rest of it.
bsoder is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2006, 09:38 PM   #29
qban_flyer
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Lightbulb

Unfortunately flipping the boom around will bring the "break" near where the main landing gear bracket goes. It would be too close to the motor and its torque as well. :o

One hard "nose first" landing will snap it rather quickly, even if one used a carbon fiber rod to reinforce the boom's joint. :o

I just got me an older version Slow Stick from a fellow flyer for $25. Complete including its EPS-300 power plant.
 
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2006, 09:54 PM   #30
bsoder
Member
 
bsoder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Mesa, AZ
Posts: 512
Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts
iTrader: (2)
Friends: (1)
Default

I use a piece of hardwood to mount my motors in all my planes - shaved down to 9mm x 9mm to fit inside a piece of slowstick fuselage. I've hit nose first into a few things - lightpole, wall, ground and never broken the stick. I've bent my slowstick fuse a number of times but never broken the stick. I think you'd end up with a bend at each end of the stick before you broke it.
bsoder is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2006, 09:59 PM   #31
qban_flyer
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Lightbulb

Originally Posted by bsoder View Post
I use a piece of hardwood to mount my motors in all my planes - shaved down to 9mm x 9mm to fit inside a piece of slowstick fuselage. I've hit nose first into a few things - lightpole, wall, ground and never broken the stick. I've bent my slowstick fuse a number of times but never broken the stick. I think you'd end up with a bend at each end of the stick before you broke it.
On a solid one you'll end up with a "shock forced downthrust" bend. On an already pre-cut aluminum tube you'll break the wood and the joiner. :o

At any rate I just got me one of the older ones, and will expand my search for some more of them.
 
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2006, 11:55 PM   #32
darkside212
Super Contributor
 
darkside212's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Milwaukee,WI
Posts: 1,286
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via MSN to darkside212
iTrader: (13)
Friends: (2)
Default

why don't you just by an oak rectangular dowel for $1.39 at the hardware store? it will last longer than the aluminum stick-----won't bend and can handle a nose dive

darkside212 is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Old 05-31-2006, 11:58 PM   #33
Doc Pete
Pete O'Connor
 
Doc Pete's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Posts: 285
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader: (0)
Friends: (0)
Default

Originally Posted by tallflyer View Post
I still think for $47.00 or combo is a great offer.
Yes I agree. For the record, the bp12 they offer is the one that likes an 8/4 or 8/4.3. I assume yours in the bp12s that likes the bigger prop.

Ask the old guy how to fly the plane....... He's still alive!!
Doc Pete is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2006, 01:08 AM   #34
qban_flyer
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Thumbs up

Originally Posted by darkside212 View Post
why don't you just by an oak rectangular dowel for $1.39 at the hardware store? it will last longer than the aluminum stick-----won't bend and can handle a nose dive
HMMM!

Thats an interesting thought.
 
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-01-2006, 01:11 AM   #35
VOLUNTEER
Member
 
VOLUNTEER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Chattanooga
Posts: 157
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader: (2)
Friends: (0)
Default

I got a replacement fuselage today along with a repalcement rudder and stab. The fuse is in one piece and the tail feathers are the old, thin type.
VOLUNTEER is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2006, 02:23 AM   #36
qban_flyer
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Exclamation

Originally Posted by Doc Pete View Post
Ouch!. One of my friends in NJ has that combo for $31 and $4 shipping. I just got the motor/connectors and the ESC is on the way.
I can get a combo including the Tower Pro 2410-12 motor (or the 2408-21) and 15A ESC for $37 plus $5 shipping from Wisconsin at: www.rcepower.com
 
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2006, 02:48 AM   #37
darkside212
Super Contributor
 
darkside212's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Milwaukee,WI
Posts: 1,286
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Send a message via MSN to darkside212
iTrader: (13)
Friends: (2)
Default

and I usually throw in freebies....thanks Q

darkside212 is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2006, 03:02 AM   #38
firemanbill
Community Moderator
 
firemanbill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Yorktown, Virginia USA
Posts: 18,835
View firemanbill's Gallery67
Thanked 716 Times in 704 Posts
Club: Newport News Park R/C Club
Awards Showcase

125mph Speed Demon  100mph Speed Demon  2kW  4kW 
iTrader: (35)
Friends: (63)
Default

Originally Posted by darkside212 View Post
and I usually throw in freebies....thanks Q
Yes he does!
firemanbill is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2006, 03:03 AM   #39
Solid Hit
Just call me ... Bill
 
Solid Hit's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Upstate of SC
Posts: 1,186
View Solid Hit's Gallery12
Thanked 4 Times in 4 Posts
iTrader: (5)
Friends: (1)
Default

Truthfully, and to parphrase Shakespeare, all the hoopla about the split fuse is much a do about nothing.

I cut my first SS where GWS told me to and it survived a whole lot. What finally did it in was my horse stepping on it when it landed it in his paddock after I knocked it down from a tree.

If it is that critical, a 2" piece of square stock inserted as a splice will make it sturdier.

My $.02
Solid Hit is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2006, 04:19 AM   #40
ForestCam
Bad Influence
 
ForestCam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: East Lansing, MI
Posts: 1,120
View ForestCam's Gallery3
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader: (0)
Friends: (0)
Default

I noticed that HL is starting to carry 8mm square carbon fiber tube, too bad they don't offer it in a 2mm larger size.
Maybe the 8mm tube with some 1mm thick flats to put in the supports!

If I ever need to replace my SS I figured on ordering an extra tube and having them toss it in the box to save on shipping just in case (shipping on the tube is as much as the tube itself. What do you bet the replacement tubes aren't cut!
ForestCam is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2006, 04:19 AM   #41
qban_flyer
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Exclamation

Yes, it is extremely important for the boom to be rigid. :o

I have no clue if the people linked below are related to GWS, their name certainly leads me to believe so. They sell a replacement boom for the model. An additional $3.50 would get the problem solved.

http://www.gwsexpert.com/product_inf...roducts_id=563
 
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2006, 04:24 AM   #42
ForestCam
Bad Influence
 
ForestCam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: East Lansing, MI
Posts: 1,120
View ForestCam's Gallery3
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader: (0)
Friends: (0)
Default

Originally Posted by qban_flyer View Post
Yes, it is extremely important for the boom to be rigid. :o

I have no clue if the people linked below are related to GWS, their name certainly leads me to believe so. They sell a replacement boom for the model. An additional $3.50 would get the problem solved.

http://www.gwsexpert.com/product_inf...roducts_id=563
They always ship kits inside another box (my SS and Formosa both came in the same sized box) so getting an extra boom no matter which kit shouldn't be a problem.

And they're always quick to answer questions during business hours.
ForestCam is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2006, 04:30 AM   #43
crxmanpat
Community Moderator
 
crxmanpat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Mesa, AZ
Posts: 6,252
Thanked 318 Times in 307 Posts
Club: Arizona Model Aviators
Awards Showcase

WAA-08 Pilot  100mph Speed Demon  Globetrotter Pilot 
iTrader: (2)
Friends: (27)
Default

One of the LHS' here had 8 spare one-piece fuses on hand. I bought two of them, and a buddy bought 5. I told the manager about the new SS kits. He said he would try to order more spare fuses (they were $4 apiece). I will find out if he is able to order more replacements, or if they will now only be available in the 2 piece version.

Pat Gagnon

Owner - Nico Hobbies

Your source for micro pusher jets!
crxmanpat is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2006, 04:38 AM   #44
ForestCam
Bad Influence
 
ForestCam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: East Lansing, MI
Posts: 1,120
View ForestCam's Gallery3
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader: (0)
Friends: (0)
Default

I would think that spares would still be one peice simply because they probably already have a million of them in a warehouse in China and the fact that no matter how you slice up a 10mm x 37" square tube it'll take up the same amount of space.

BTW I just checked, they have the "New Improved Packaging" for theire SS's at GWSExpert.


ForestCam is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2006, 04:40 AM   #45
qban_flyer
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Lightbulb

There is a LHS I haven't contacted yet. I shall do so tomorrow morning. If they have spare booms I'll drive up to them and get me a couple. Just in case!
 
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2006, 04:42 AM   #46
qban_flyer
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Angry

OH! NO!!! :o

There goes the neighborhood for sure! Where the parts are shown the pre-cut boom is visible below the wing.

I like the thicker tail feathers, though. So while they improved one thing they've managed to screw up another. And they even brag about it! What gives Mr. Lin?


Originally Posted by ForestCam View Post
I would think that spares would still be one peice simply because they probably already have a million of them in a warehouse in China and the fact that no matter how you slice up a 10mm x 37" square tube it'll take up the same amount of space.

BTW I just checked, they have the "New Improved Packaging" for theire SS's at GWSExpert.


 
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2006, 04:52 AM   #47
ForestCam
Bad Influence
 
ForestCam's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: East Lansing, MI
Posts: 1,120
View ForestCam's Gallery3
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
iTrader: (0)
Friends: (0)
Default

Well I just checked and for me the breakdown is this

SS Sloper,
$12.80 USPS Priority
$11.88 UPS Ground

SS Sloper + 1 boom
$12.92 USPS PRiority
$12.25 UPS Ground

SS Sloper + 2 booms

$14.80 USPS Priority
$12.72 UPS Ground

SS Sloper + 3 booms

$16.60 USPS Priority
$13.45 UPS Ground

That second and third boom must be really heavy.
ForestCam is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2006, 04:54 AM   #48
crxmanpat
Community Moderator
 
crxmanpat's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Mesa, AZ
Posts: 6,252
Thanked 318 Times in 307 Posts
Club: Arizona Model Aviators
Awards Showcase

WAA-08 Pilot  100mph Speed Demon  Globetrotter Pilot 
iTrader: (2)
Friends: (27)
Default

Q ban,

I checked a few sources, and lots are still available. The link above (GWS Expert) has 7 on hand, ALLeRC (www.allerc.com) has 25 (and are the cheapest at $3.38). I'd say order as many as you can afford, and then corner the market on spares. :p

Pat Gagnon

Owner - Nico Hobbies

Your source for micro pusher jets!
crxmanpat is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2006, 04:58 AM   #49
qban_flyer
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Thumbs up

Originally Posted by crxmanpat View Post
Q ban,

I checked a few sources, and lots are still available. The link above (GWS Expert) has 7 on hand, ALLeRC (www.allerc.com) has 25 (and are the cheapest at $3.38). I'd say order as many as you can afford, and then corner the market on spares. :p
I'll do that!

I'll have to rename myself the "Slow Stick Boom Hoarder", though.
 
  Reply With Quote
Old 06-06-2006, 05:09 AM   #50
bsoder
Member
 
bsoder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Mesa, AZ
Posts: 512
Thanked 10 Times in 9 Posts
iTrader: (2)
Friends: (1)
Default

I picked up a few spares today, mostly cleaned out the LHS.
bsoder is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Reply

  WattFlyer RC Electric Flight Forums - Discuss radio control eflight > Electric R/C Airplanes > ParkFlyers

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
slow stick with gws floats money-pit Seaplanes E-Powered 14 01-10-2009 07:13 PM
GWS Slow Stick Gauge ParkFlyers 44 05-10-2008 09:04 PM
GWS Slow Stick - WTB BatteriesIncluded Airplanes - Electric For Sale & WTB 6 03-07-2007 01:30 PM
Gws Slow-Stick??? Blake123 ParkFlyers 34 06-08-2006 12:17 AM
GWS Slow Stick Question??? rtmiller ParkFlyers 54 11-11-2005 12:34 AM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 03:16 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 2005 WattfFlyer.com
RCU Eflight HQ

Charities we support Select: Yorkie Rescue  ::  Crohn's & Colitis Foundation



Page generated in 0.59018 seconds with 59 queries