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Old 12-08-2013, 10:34 AM   #1
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As with many Forums - people have many different nationalities and languages. Forums like this tend to be in English for want of a common international language.

This brings in the matter of being able to understand others posts and also our own.

Many times posts are a steady stream of words all in one block and extremely difficult to understand. It is difficult to read and often I and I am sure others have to try and split the words up to get to the meaning.

We all appreciate that English is not first language for many ... please do not misunderstand my post here.

What I ask is that when posting ... please try to divide up the text into sections. This allows easier reading and also more understanding of the intention.

Avoid over use of smilies inside sentences - they tend to fix onto letters or words next to them ...

We all want to help everyone as much as possible and understanding / being able to read posts is an important part.

When wanting help with a problem - a photo can be the greatest item of all ... it is worth a thousand words ! Especially when different languages use words differently.

Sorry if this seems a bit school like - just trying to help.

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Good advice Nigel. It also helps if posters list their location, at the very least, which country they live in. Some answers depend on location in order to be accurate.
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Good idea Rodneh, but I can't hold back a little teasing.

I noticed that you do not have your location listed.

Usable radio frequencies differ by country or general region, so Tx's & Rx's should not be sold, across these lines. I have watched Ebay listings where the item was shipped from UK to USA. I don't think the buyer realised he could not use it here, he was a noob.

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Originally Posted by Wildflyer View Post
Good idea Rodneh, but I can't hold back a little teasing.

I noticed that you do not have your location listed.

Usable radio frequencies differ by country or general region, so Tx's & Rx's should not be sold, across these lines. I have watched Ebay listings where the item was shipped from UK to USA. I don't think the buyer realised he could not use it here, he was a noob.
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It's not hard to ask someone where they are located ... some people don't want to advertise their location ...

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I've often suggested, for ease of reading or following ones text, that the author consider breaking up the conversation into paragraphs or double space the writing flow of the topic or change in presentation.

Yes, many of those who's first language is not English, may have grammer blunders, but conveying ones thought process through text by bunching several ideas or explanations together in one long continuous sentence makes it very difficult for the reader (translator) to get the complete picture. Thus, making it difficult for those who care to, provide a reasonable level of help.

Obviously, not everyone who communicates in English is a scholar. But, one does not need to be to communicate effectively.........if one desires to recieve a reasonable solution to a problem and not "_itch" about the responses they get from the internet......

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I'm sure I've brought it up here before, but in one of my airplane classes, the instructor asked 'how can you solve all the world's problems today?' Communication. It was an analogy on how to troubleshoot anything, but relates to most anything we do.

If you type in the forums in the ways mentioned above, it's poor communication, and people will not be able to understand what you're trying to ask or say. What are forums but communication, after all? Unless you're just looking at the pictures! Maybe it's a second language for them, maybe they have a disability, or maybe they are just lazy, didn't pay attention at school, or are too cool to be 'smart'. Sometimes it's obvious, sometimes it's hard to pinpoint. That's why I usually (usually!) just bite my tongue. In some of these cases I type a paragraph, then pause a moment and hit the back button. At least I typed it and got it off my chest in my mind.

But yes, I wish I could tell people this sometimes without hurting any feelings. It is pretty rare to see those kind of posts at least, but they are out there. (Pausing to think if I should hit the back button.... Naah!)
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i agreenigel,i for one[1]am often guiltyof doing these things..,,....but in my defense[not that i need defending]i will try to do better. so from here on out[while typing in forums]i will resist these bad habits.i do agree with you when folks don't space the post properly and often think the are spammers trying to sneak in our midst.......it will now be my pleasure to

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Originally Posted by tobydogs View Post
i agreenigel,i for one[1]am often guiltyof doing these things..,,....but in my defense[not that i need defending]i will try to do better. so from here on out[while typing in forums]i will resist these bad habits.i do agree with you when folks don't space the post properly and often think the are spammers trying to sneak in our midst.......it will now be my pleasure to

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Hmmmm........this poor fellow obviously originates from inside the U.S, notorious for its poor spelling and butchery of the Queens English. We can only pity him and hope for a full recovery
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its not the queens language its an improved version of the original with phone auto correct.

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Hate to be an old curmudgeon like Nigel but what really irks me is the improper spelling of the word "too" as in: "it's not too difficult" Almost everyone uses "to"

Anyone else crabby today ? LOL
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Screw spell"in and Punch'you'a'shun, were a mess of old farts with toy airplanes,, gramer don't matter none a'tall,,, bubsteve


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ditto what steve said ,sorry nigel for hijacking the thread my friend. i agree with the op.

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When somebody asks for help in "texteze" I won't make an effort to reply. I will forgive people who don't know "then" from "than". Some of our best model designers are notorious for poor grammar, spelling, and sentence structure. Often they are very good at things like CAD and model aerodynamics.
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Dahawk hits one nail on the head. I accept the concept that language is a constantly evolving form, but being an old guy, with an actual "old-style" education, I still have problems getting past the ignorance that often arises here in relation to spelling and grammer. I'm not talking about the use of devices which I use myself when texting, such as "U" for the word "you." But I guess, in the end, getting the concept across is all that matters.
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I freely admit that quite often I drop a spelling clanger ... I use two PC's that one has a lazy "SHIFT" key and other has a lazy E ...

I dislike MS Spellchecker because even in UK English - USA spelling gets in ...

Shortening of words to TEXT'ing style I can live with - all my shiping career - we lived with Telex ...

My point is starting the thread - was not so much being a crabby old fart ... but just to highlight that spacing out, separating parts of a the post makes it easier to understand the subject or question.

Too often we are seeing posts that are literally like words just poured onto the page like a stream of water, very little punctuation. Little or no capitalisation of sentences first letter.

The funny thing about spelling and particularly the English language ... is the meaning can be seen and read in poor spelling ... as long as it's laid out well to read.

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Originally Posted by solentlife View Post
Many times posts are a steady stream of words all in one block and extremely difficult to understand. It is difficult to read and often I and I am sure others have to try and split the words up to get to the meaning.
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In general, on forums anyway, I find this problem to be a lack of education rather than a language barrier.

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Hate to be an old curmudgeon like Nigel but what really irks me is the improper spelling of the word "too" as in: "it's not too difficult" Almost everyone uses "to"
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I freely admit that quite often I drop a spelling clanger ... I use two PC's that one has a lazy "SHIFT" key and other has a lazy E ...

I dislike MS Spellchecker because even in UK English - USA spelling gets in ...

Shortening of words to TEXT'ing style I can live with - all my shiping career - we lived with Telex ...

My point is starting the thread - was not so much being a crabby old fart ... but just to highlight that spacing out, separating parts of a the post makes it easier to understand the subject or question.

Too often we are seeing posts that are literally like words just poured onto the page like a stream of water, very little punctuation. Little or no capitalisation of sentences first letter.

The funny thing about spelling and particularly the English language ... is the meaning can be seen and read in poor spelling ... as long as it's laid out well to read.

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Thanks Nigel, I'm an old fart,,, capitalization is spelled with a "Z"
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Depends on which side of the 'pond' ...

Color ? Colour ? Capitalization ? Capitalisation ?


And is that the Correct English Z'ED' or the Colonial US Z'EE' ?



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It's funny the variances in the English language.

I was working the Gulf of Mexico a while back .. Sabine ... Port Arthur ... Beaumont ... New Orleans ... Mobile .... Corpus Christie ...

Anyway - I had a couple of days lay-over in New Orleans before flying home.... in fact I got re-routed to Jebel Ali in Arab Emirates ... but that's another story.

I was talking to a lass in one of the restaurants and she just sat staring at me ... it was a little unnerving .. so I asked her if there was anything wrong ...

Lordy Me .. I jest LUV that engleeesh accent ... it's jest so sexy !

Didn't know what to say so ..

That'll be medium steak please with salad on the side !

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Lol! I thought English accents made people smarter and funnier. Have to add sexier! Come to think of it,this reminds me of an ad whet the gal pulls off all 3 at once, even though it's a fake accent despite the material.

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..... well she plays it well !!

The only thing worse than an American doing a Brit accent - is a Brit doing an American !!



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The only thing worse than an American doing a Brit accent - is a Brit doing an American !!
I have to say that Hugh Laurie does a great job of it. On the opposite side of the pond, Kevin Costner is the antithesis.
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As with many Forums - people have many different nationalities and languages. Forums like this tend to be in English for want of a common international language.

This brings in the matter of being able to understand others posts and also our own.

Many times posts are a steady stream of words all in one block and extremely difficult to understand. It is difficult to read and often I and I am sure others have to try and split the words up to get to the meaning.

We all appreciate that English is not first language for many ... please do not misunderstand my post here.

What I ask is that when posting ... please try to divide up the text into sections. This allows easier reading and also more understanding of the intention.

Avoid over use of smilies inside sentences - they tend to fix onto letters or words next to them ...

We all want to help everyone as much as possible and understanding / being able to read posts is an important part.

When wanting help with a problem - a photo can be the greatest item of all ... it is worth a thousand words ! Especially when different languages use words differently.

Sorry if this seems a bit school like - just trying to help.

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Proper punctuation and sentence structure helps as well.

As with many Forums, people have many different nationalities and languages. Forums like this tend to be in English for want of a common international language. This brings in the matter of being able to understand others posts and also our own.

Many times posts are a steady stream of words all in one block and extremely difficult to understand. It is difficult to read and often I, and I am sure others, have to try and split the words up to get to the meaning. We all appreciate that English is not first language for many. Please do not misunderstand my post here.

What I ask is that when posting, please try to divide up the text into sections. This allows easier reading and also more understanding of the intention. Avoid over use of smilies inside sentences. They tend to fix onto letters or words next to them.

We all want to help everyone as much as possible and understanding and being able to read posts is an important part. When wanting help with a problem a photo can be the greatest item of all. It is worth a thousand words! Especially when different languages use words differently.

Sorry if this seems a bit school like, just trying to help.

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