Wattflyer RC Network: RC Universe :: RCU Magazine :: RCU Forums :: RCU Classifieds :: RCU User Reviews :: RCU YouTube
Home Who's Online Calendar Today's Posts RealTime Post Spy Mark Forums Read
Go Back   WattFlyer RC Electric Flight Forums - Discuss radio control eflight > Electric R/C Airplanes > Warbird Electrics
Register Members List Wattflyer Extras Articles Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read Social Groups

Warbird Electrics Discuss e-powered warbirds in here!

Thank you for your support (hide ads)
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-29-2008, 08:02 PM   #1
Bad_B
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Upland, CA.
Posts: 49
Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts
iTrader: (0)
Friends: (0)
Default PZ F4U Corsair

Went to the LHS to pickup 2 cans of testor's dull coat, nothing more.....and there they were 6 PnP PZ Corsairs. I got one and need to swap out the E-flite ESC (had three fail on different occasions).

I should be able to report back later today after the maiden flight.

Cheers,

Brian
Bad_B is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2008, 08:12 PM   #2
Grasshopper
Some Assembly Required
 
Grasshopper's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Nashville, TN
Posts: 12,071
View Grasshopper's Gallery48
Thanked 422 Times in 407 Posts
Awards Showcase

AP Contest Winner  WAA-08 Pilot  100mph Speed Demon 
iTrader: (49)
Friends: (52)
Default

That's good news. It will be nice hearing what you think of it.

Tom
Grasshopper is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2008, 08:46 PM   #3
constantCrash
prefectionist
 
constantCrash's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: MN
Posts: 1,919
Thanked 139 Times in 132 Posts
Send a message via AIM to constantCrash
iTrader: (0)
Friends: (3)
Default

I'll buy the ESC off you for $25

I wanna be a pirate. Arrrrr

AMA - 885997
constantCrash is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2008, 11:43 PM   #4
Bad_B
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Upland, CA.
Posts: 49
Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts
iTrader: (0)
Friends: (0)
Default Review

Oh, how I have suffered for you people. Sacramento is hot today, Africa hot, 100 + degrees. I put a total of 6 flights on the Corsair; three flights with the 2 bladed prop and three flights with the 3 bladed prop.

Hereís the PnP setup: stock, except for the ESC, a CC-36 and the battery a TP 2200 mAh V2 3S 25C.

For the scope of the review I will keep the flight performance relative to the stock PZ T-28 Trojan. The Corsair is much more nimble than the T-28, much quicker in all aspects of flight and faster all around. The plane has a great vertical capability with both props, a very fast roll rate and tight loops. The plane will telegraph its stall speeds with a pretty aggressive series of wing waggles, nothing nasty just point the nose down and it will find a good glide path. The Trojan is much more subtle in the way it stalls, but the Corsair recovers seems just as easy. I did a several dead stick approaches and got a good feel for the glide characteristics. The Corsair appears to have a higher rate of speed during it glide path and needs a bit more room to land. The dead stick landings were easy today as there was a light breeze ~3 mph. All I really needed to maintain control during a dead stick landing was nose down attitude and a little rudder (I tend to stay away from aileron inputs at really low speeds). The landing gear handles short grass fine, but I did not attempt to taxi the plane around as the tail wheel is rather small. As a tail dragger you need to either fly the plane in for landing or if you have experience with tail draggers just the normal throttle control coupled with up elevator at the right moment to avoid ground looping.
The plane spins like a top and something about the gull wings make it look really cool especially during a scale victory roll. Just like the, Trojan, rolls with rudder input can go well beyond scale performance, but are still quicker with the Corsair.

My overall impression is ParkZone hit a homerun this plane. The look is very scale and the performance is very acrobatic. Is this a beginner plane? No, I wouldnít recommend it for a beginner, not because it has any bad characteristics, but because it can get small fast. Couple the speed factor with the dark blue color scheme and you can quickly loose your orientation if you are not in tune with exactly what inputs you are giving the plane. I will say the white outline on the bottom of the plane really helps your visual acuity, but there are moments (steep dives right at you) that you can momentarily loose the plane. I would recommend this plane to anyone who has complete confidence in his/her skills or feels that the Trojan is an old friend, albeit a bit slow now. Also if you are going to take the plunge as a beginner, double check for spare parts at you LHS first, mine had none, so you might have to wait if you crack it up.

Tips: Check the control clevises as the plastic post is rather weak, mine was stressed and I replaced it. Also experiment with the clevis position on the rudder and elevator control horns. My rudder had very little authority on the hole furthest from the rudder, but I moved it in one hole and itís great now. Yes, you will notice a slight difference in performance with the 3 bladed prop and no it does not really sound any different that the normal one, but it looks really, really cool esp. with the yellow tips.

Cheers,
Brian
Bad_B is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-29-2008, 11:59 PM   #5
Angler-Hi
Super Contributor
 
Angler-Hi's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Ft Hood, Tx
Posts: 4,096
View Angler-Hi's Gallery20
Thanked 350 Times in 338 Posts
Send a message via Yahoo to Angler-Hi
iTrader: (5)
Friends: (40)
Default

Thanks for the review Brian. Sounds like a sweet fly!

The best teacher in the world is experience...now go fly something already
Angler-Hi is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2008, 01:17 AM   #6
constantCrash
prefectionist
 
constantCrash's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: MN
Posts: 1,919
Thanked 139 Times in 132 Posts
Send a message via AIM to constantCrash
iTrader: (0)
Friends: (3)
Default

Mine should be here wednesday. the truck takes longer to get to MN

I wanna be a pirate. Arrrrr

AMA - 885997
constantCrash is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2008, 02:39 AM   #7
jkaven
Member
 
jkaven's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Wheeling, WV
Posts: 341
View jkaven's Gallery41
Thanked 17 Times in 17 Posts
Club: ST CLAIRSVILLE RC FLIERS
iTrader: (0)
Friends: (2)
Default

Sounds real nice. Maybe my lovely wife will get me one for Christmas.
jkaven is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2008, 02:43 AM   #8
firemanbill
Community Moderator
 
firemanbill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Yorktown, Virginia USA
Posts: 18,782
View firemanbill's Gallery67
Thanked 709 Times in 697 Posts
Club: Newport News Park R/C Club
Awards Showcase

125mph Speed Demon  100mph Speed Demon  2kW  4kW 
iTrader: (35)
Friends: (63)
Default

Sweet! Glad to hear she's a good flier. Congrats on the succeful flights and thanks for the report

Sounds like a winner!

2012 SEFF Night Bowling Champion!
firemanbill is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2008, 04:13 AM   #9
FlyingMonkey
Flite Test Fan
 
FlyingMonkey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: 32459
Posts: 8,926
Thanked 305 Times in 292 Posts
Send a message via AIM to FlyingMonkey
Awards Showcase

AP Contest Winner  AV Contest 
iTrader: (0)
Friends: (24)
Default

the new stock ESC is supposed to be a much improved unit. Switiching BEC and a higher working load, it is not the ESC from the Trojan.

Self proclaimed dictator of the Flite Test fan club.
FlyingMonkey is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-30-2008, 05:13 PM   #10
David Eichstedt
Horizon Hobby
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 43
Thanked 8 Times in 8 Posts
iTrader: (0)
Friends: (1)
Default

Originally Posted by FlyingMonkey View Post
the new stock ESC is supposed to be a much improved unit. Switiching BEC and a higher working load, it is not the ESC from the Trojan.
True. We feel it is a much better piece of hardware, all-new. We've worked it over hard in hot conditions and it just keeps going.

It also supports 4S Li-Po packs (not recommended for the stock T-28 or Corsair motor).

David Eichstedt
Horizon Hobby
David Eichstedt is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2008, 01:36 AM   #11
rcers
Community Moderator
 
rcers's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Trophy Club TX
Posts: 6,062
View rcers's Gallery57
Thanked 496 Times in 486 Posts
Awards Showcase

WAA-08 Pilot 
iTrader: (4)
Friends: (9)
Default

Was hoping to see them in DFW area here, but the LHS didn't have it yet, but they expect it anytime.....

Looks like a winner for sure.....

Mike
rcers is online now  
  Reply With Quote
Old 08-31-2008, 06:57 AM   #12
Rabbitcreekok
Community Moderator
 
Rabbitcreekok's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: McAlester, Oklahoma
Posts: 6,175
View Rabbitcreekok's Gallery8
Thanked 254 Times in 247 Posts
Awards Showcase

Globetrotter Pilot  WAA-08 Pilot 
iTrader: (5)
Friends: (30)
Default

I have a PNP or order. Will follow this thread for tips.

Jim
AMA 735658
Rabbitcreekok is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2008, 02:02 AM   #13
Daylight99
Member
 
Daylight99's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Fontana, Ca
Posts: 107
Thanked 8 Times in 7 Posts
Club: Inland Soaring Society
iTrader: (0)
Friends: (2)
Default

Does it look like retracts can be installed?
Daylight99 is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2008, 03:58 AM   #14
FlyingMonkey
Flite Test Fan
 
FlyingMonkey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: 32459
Posts: 8,926
Thanked 305 Times in 292 Posts
Send a message via AIM to FlyingMonkey
Awards Showcase

AP Contest Winner  AV Contest 
iTrader: (0)
Friends: (24)
Default

yes and no...

yes, you could put traditional retracts in, but not sure about the scale ones that rotate 90 degrees, like on the full sized one. reports say that the structure of the wing wouldn't support it.

Self proclaimed dictator of the Flite Test fan club.
FlyingMonkey is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2008, 03:47 PM   #15
jayxer
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 61
Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post
iTrader: (0)
Friends: (0)
Default

I'll top the other guy, I'll give you $30 + shipping!

The ESC in the corsair is a 30AMP with switching BEC, not the linear 25AMP that came with the Trojan.

I've got both the Trojan and yesterday I ran to the LH store to return a Himaxx inrunner, and saw a PNP Corsair. Needless to say, I took the credit of the Himaxx towards the Corsair, and ordered the Himaxx I needed. I hate this hobby sometimes.....

Haven't flown her yet, was working till late yesterday and can't again tonight, but I hope to fly her on thursday night.

Just thought I'd throw it in there that the stock ESC in my T-28 is working flawlessly also, and i've got to have over 100+ flights with it. Only reason I bought the Corsair is cause the T-28 is the best plane I've ever bought, and if the F4U is anything like it or better, I'm in for a treat.
jayxer is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2008, 05:49 PM   #16
Bad_B
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Upland, CA.
Posts: 49
Thanked 5 Times in 4 Posts
iTrader: (0)
Friends: (0)
Smile

I wanted to revise my review on the Corsair in regards to its speed. I think I let my enthusiasm get the best of me. After flying both planes on consecutive flights Iíll say the T-28 and Corsair are about the same, with a slight edge going to the Corsair. The glide speed is faster and it does require a bit more landing room.

Retracts would be a bit of a chore with this plane. The Corsair does come with two skid plates that can be installed in lieu of the landing gear that would give you a cleaner look. The plane requires very little runway to get airborne, so I assume hand launching would be no problem.

Another handy improvement is the hook and loop seatbelt for the battery. As I stated in my review Iím using the TP 2200 V2 3S for power and after several flights it is no longer a snug fit. The seatbelt helps prevent the battery from sliding back and changing the CG. On the T-28 I had to do a little bit of cutting to get the TP to fit, but with the Corsair there are no modifications needed.

Brian
Bad_B is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2008, 07:19 PM   #17
constantCrash
prefectionist
 
constantCrash's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: MN
Posts: 1,919
Thanked 139 Times in 132 Posts
Send a message via AIM to constantCrash
iTrader: (0)
Friends: (3)
Default

I'm starting to get impatient waiting for mine to arrive at the LHS. Started building my E-flite P-38 to keep me busy.

I wanna be a pirate. Arrrrr

AMA - 885997
constantCrash is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2008, 07:42 PM   #18
FlyingMonkey
Flite Test Fan
 
FlyingMonkey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: 32459
Posts: 8,926
Thanked 305 Times in 292 Posts
Send a message via AIM to FlyingMonkey
Awards Showcase

AP Contest Winner  AV Contest 
iTrader: (0)
Friends: (24)
Default

I am waiting for mine to arrive here at the house, within the next couple hours.

Self proclaimed dictator of the Flite Test fan club.
FlyingMonkey is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2008, 10:18 PM   #19
Rabbitcreekok
Community Moderator
 
Rabbitcreekok's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: McAlester, Oklahoma
Posts: 6,175
View Rabbitcreekok's Gallery8
Thanked 254 Times in 247 Posts
Awards Showcase

Globetrotter Pilot  WAA-08 Pilot 
iTrader: (5)
Friends: (30)
Default

Mine is in Memphis, on its way.

Jim
AMA 735658
Rabbitcreekok is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2008, 11:22 PM   #20
FlyingMonkey
Flite Test Fan
 
FlyingMonkey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: 32459
Posts: 8,926
Thanked 305 Times in 292 Posts
Send a message via AIM to FlyingMonkey
Awards Showcase

AP Contest Winner  AV Contest 
iTrader: (0)
Friends: (24)
Default

My Corsair has arrived!

Unfortunately, while assembling it, thunder started rolling in.

So, all I have for now is some photographs to share.

I want to thank BadBill from Hodge's Hobbies. He got these planes in yesterday, I got mine today. Georgia to Florida overnight, not too bad.

Thanks Bill!

Self proclaimed dictator of the Flite Test fan club.
FlyingMonkey is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2008, 11:24 PM   #21
SkunkyMagoo
Newborn Rotorhead
 
SkunkyMagoo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: So Cal
Posts: 1,142
View SkunkyMagoo's Gallery11
Thanked 72 Times in 70 Posts
Send a message via AIM to SkunkyMagoo
iTrader: (2)
Friends: (21)
Default

http://www.acepilots.com/usmc_aces2.html#Walsh

TX | JR x9303
RW's | Vibe Fitty - Blade mSR
FW's | 64mm EDF Mirage 2000 - 64mm EDF F-5E Swiss Tiger
SkunkyMagoo is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2008, 11:44 PM   #22
gfdengine204
Super Contributor
 
gfdengine204's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Sandwich, IL
Posts: 9,565
View gfdengine204's Gallery6
Thanked 333 Times in 322 Posts
Club: RC Dusters, AMA 3875, Sandwich, IL
Send a message via AIM to gfdengine204
Awards Showcase

Outstanding Contributor Award 
iTrader: (3)
Friends: (53)
Default

Originally Posted by FlyingMonkey View Post
My Corsair has arrived!

Unfortunately, while assembling it, thunder started rolling in.

So, all I have for now is some photographs to share.

I want to thank BadBill from Hodge's Hobbies. He got these planes in yesterday, I got mine today. Georgia to Florida overnight, not too bad.

Thanks Bill!
IN other words, you have not had a chance to destroy it?

- Kev
AMA 873921
RC Dusters Flying Club, AMA 3875, Sandwich, IL

Question with Boldness. Hold to the Truth. Speak without fear.


gfdengine204 is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2008, 12:01 AM   #23
FlyingMonkey
Flite Test Fan
 
FlyingMonkey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: 32459
Posts: 8,926
Thanked 305 Times in 292 Posts
Send a message via AIM to FlyingMonkey
Awards Showcase

AP Contest Winner  AV Contest 
iTrader: (0)
Friends: (24)
Default

in short...


I am very much looking forward to seeing how this thing flies.

Self proclaimed dictator of the Flite Test fan club.
FlyingMonkey is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2008, 02:43 AM   #24
constantCrash
prefectionist
 
constantCrash's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: MN
Posts: 1,919
Thanked 139 Times in 132 Posts
Send a message via AIM to constantCrash
iTrader: (0)
Friends: (3)
Default

I just got back from the field with mine. took ~45 min to assemble including adding 2.5" dubro wheels in front and the nose wheel off my E-flite P-38 in the back. It flys like a dream. i had a 2200 mah battery in it which made it slightly nose heavy, but a few clicks of up trim and it was perfect. I had it flying so slow that i could walk next to it.

attached pic of it next to friends T-28


Attached Thumbnails
Click image for larger version

Name:	IMG_0098.jpg
Views:	941
Size:	85.1 KB
ID:	77221

I wanna be a pirate. Arrrrr

AMA - 885997
constantCrash is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Old 09-04-2008, 02:58 PM   #25
FlyingMonkey
Flite Test Fan
 
FlyingMonkey's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: 32459
Posts: 8,926
Thanked 305 Times in 292 Posts
Send a message via AIM to FlyingMonkey
Awards Showcase

AP Contest Winner  AV Contest 
iTrader: (0)
Friends: (24)
Default

I flew it, it didn't crash, this time...


video to follow

Self proclaimed dictator of the Flite Test fan club.
FlyingMonkey is offline  
  Reply With Quote
Reply

  WattFlyer RC Electric Flight Forums - Discuss radio control eflight > Electric R/C Airplanes > Warbird Electrics

Tags
corsair , f4u

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Hanger 9 F4U Corsair. clt12981 Warbird Electrics 15 11-15-2008 09:23 PM
Electrifly F4U Corsair Tireshred Video Parking lot 0 07-02-2008 03:26 PM
f4u corsair warbirdmaster888 Warbird Electrics 0 07-01-2008 07:38 AM
Which F4U Corsair should I get? Jeremy Z ParkFlyers 43 11-24-2005 09:21 AM
Which F4U Corsair should I get? (link) Jeremy Z Scale E-Powered Aircraft 0 10-19-2005 08:06 PM


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 01:48 PM.


Powered by: vBulletin
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright 2005 WattfFlyer.com
RCU Eflight HQ

Charities we support Select: Yorkie Rescue  ::  Crohn's & Colitis Foundation



Page generated in 0.37917 seconds with 72 queries