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Old 02-13-2014, 11:12 PM   #1
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Default Motor/ESC/Lipo combo for Sig Kadet Senior

Picked up a well used older Sig Kadet Senior, Flying Weight: 6 - 6.5 lbs, and looking for an inexpensive power system motor/esc/ lipo/prop, to get it up in the air.
Sig recomends a 500 watt BRUSHLESS OUTRUNNER MOTOR and lists a number of setups that will work in their manual but list their favorite as "a Himax 5018-530 (530 KV) brushless motor, 75 Amp ESC, 5S 5000 Mah lipo, and an APC 12x8E prop giving good performance and 8-10 minute flights." On the options they also list similar to an Eflite Power 32 (770 KV probably best flow on 4S) and and Eflite Power 46 (probably best flow on 5S). I think the airplane would fly fine on all of those. Turnigy is fine. Cheaper is better. Please give me your price shipped. Can PayPal.
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Tacon 25 and Dynam/Detrum 40 amp esc on 4S 3000 (or higher capacity) will do great for general flying. I have this combo in a 40 size electric Pattern model.

Go to the Tacon 40 and a 60 amp ESC for heavy lifting and towing small sailplanes.
This will give the effective power of .60 glow and the Kadet Sr (with landing gear upgrade) can fly fine at 18 lb take-off weight on a weak .60

You can add even more power but there's not much point.

You might as well just go ahead and buy new... You'll have a warranty and you won't save much getting used.
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Thanks for the advice. I see Dynam sells combo packs. For example $41 for Dynam Motor ESC Combo BM3715A-KV900+40A ESC for RC Planes. Is that combo any good?
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I've been getting god results from the motor/esc combos included in newer Dynam ARF/RTF models. Not sure which motors are in them, but that might be one of them.
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Picked up a well used older Sig Kadet Senior, Flying Weight: 6 - 6.5 lbs, and looking for an inexpensive power system motor/esc/ lipo/prop, to get it up in the air.
Sig recomends a 500 watt BRUSHLESS OUTRUNNER MOTOR and lists a number of setups that will work in their manual but list their favorite as "a Himax 5018-530 (530 KV) brushless motor, 75 Amp ESC, 5S 5000 Mah lipo, and an APC 12x8E prop giving good performance and 8-10 minute flights." On the options they also list similar to an Eflite Power 32 (770 KV probably best flow on 4S) and and Eflite Power 46 (probably best flow on 5S). I think the airplane would fly fine on all of those. Turnigy is fine. Cheaper is better. Please give me your price shipped. Can PayPal.
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Here is a lot of reading info on electrifying this size model. Might be something useful for you. As others in this thread have indicated, buy new if you can. Prices on a lot of those motors and ESC's have really dropped since brushless motors became popular about 10 years ago.

Thread on 70 size glow engine conversion to electric
http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=45222

Hacker 6S2P A123 powered Models
http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44686

Hangar 9 Kantana Model
http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=68844

Hanger 9 Twist 40 Model
http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=70548

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I appreciate the advice and understand the value of buying new. I bought the Kadet Sr for $20 so I have nothing in it really. I thought someone might have an appropriate package hanging around for short money I could throw in. Either way it will be fun. I think.
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Hi here is a nice dependable motor and Esc power system that wont set you back to much you will need to buy a UBEC as the ESC does not have a built in bec.

$74.99 for the combo, motor and Esc on sale

0.50 Gas Conversion - GH3520-6 & 70A ESC

GH GH3520-6 Motor Stats
Wire Winds / Turns: 12
Li-Po Battery : 4 / 7 cells
RPM per volt : 650
Max efficiency : 87%
Max efficiency current :
18 - 40 A
No Load Current / 10V : 1.6A
Max Current : 50A / 60 sec
Dimension : 42x47
Shaft : 5mm
Max Watts:
600W (4S) - 700W (5S)
Continuous Watts : 800W
Weight : 298g
Recommended Model Weight : 8lbs
Recommended Propeller without gearbox: 13 x 8 or 14 x 7 APC Thin Electric



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5 cell lipo 5000mah 25C for about 700 Watts of power

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...Lipo_Pack.html

you can use a 4 cell for a little less power at about 600 Watts of power

http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/s...Lipo_Pack.html

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Hi here is a nice dependable motor and Esc power system that wont set you back to much you will need to buy a UBEC as the ESC does not have a built in bec.

$74.99 for the combo, motor and Esc on sale

0.50 Gas Conversion - GH3520-6 & 70A ESC
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Hi Chellie
That looks to be a very nice combination for the price. Grayson has a 5 Amp BEC version available for another $20. Or just buy the Castle Creations 10 Amp uBEC or similar product.

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http://www.headsuphobby.com/Power-Up...otor-F-586.htm

Just got another Powerup 46 Sport from Headsuprc with the Skypower 80 amp esc including BEC. Going into a Phoenix Model Pilatus Tucano PC-9 61' WS 7 pounder

The motor is $43.00 + $38.00 for the ESC + $2.00 shipping =$83

This motor is 620KV pulling 1000 max watts. Will handle 5S or 6S It's a hoss at 10.4 oz

It arrived in 2 days as usual.

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