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Old 10-17-2013, 01:23 PM   #1
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Default Brilliant! Parkzone Mosquito ARF!

O yea - thrilling - the new offering from Parkzone.... A Mossie!

She is a beauty also! Well lets face it all Mossie are.

Stats:

  • Wingspan: 1244 mm (49.0 in)
  • Overall Length: 955 mm (37.6 in)
  • Flying Weight: 1200 g (42.3 oz); 1260 g (44.4 oz) with retracts and flaps
  • Motors: 370 BL 1300Kv Outrunner (x 2)
  • ESCs: 18A Brushless ESC (PKZ1814)
  • Servos: (2) DSV130 and (2) SV80 servos
  • Prop Size: 8.25 x 5.5

Glam shots too - I am stoked!

Here is the vid....
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I love the Mossie ... well I am a Brit !

But why oh why do model makers insist on GLOSSY paintwork with warbirds like this ? Great models like this just get spoilt by the 'shine' ...

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Yepper they sure do. I use Liqitex and dull it right up. After some panel lines, engine oil and guns with some dusty chalk and such.

O well it is the wooden wonder made of foam. LOL. Are there any actually still flying? I know someone here in the states is working on one (it is in excellent shape but is still wood). But it flew over here 15+ years ago....

I would love to hear twin Merlin's.

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Well -- I know what my next plane is now... "damn you PZ" -- Staring up and shaking my fist.

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As you know thE merlin was a good all-rounder and with a few tweaks here and there - powered many of the famous of WW2 ... big and small. Not only that but built under licence as well in USA etc.

I know of one in UK that was flying into the 70's and occasionally in 80's but it was on borrowed time and failed Airworthiness based on the structural rot. I was told then that it was not so easy to repair and keep going ...
The Spitfire also had it's problems to maintain - mainly the wing spar that was telescoped tubing then pressed to lock ... corrosion would mean literally destroying the wing to get at it ...

My Father told me that the BoB Lancaster was only flying by virtue of cannobalising bits from Shackleton Recon aircraft that were developed on from the Lanc ...

Sadly as with the South African Lightnings ... age catches up and only so much can be done ...

The sound of the merlin .... My Mother worked on Lancs during the war .. and everytime she heard a Lanc with its unique Merlin drone ... tears would form and she'd go very quiet.

The crew who signed a Goodwill photo to my Mum when war was ending ...



Parade with Lanc ... my mum is in right section ... head slightly cocked to one side - she did that all her life ..



My Mum ...sadly passed on and I hope she's found all the friends lost ...



Sorry .. lets get back to Mossies !!

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solentlife -- it is so cool you have all this history.

Too many hobbies, and not enough time!
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That rocks - too cool you have a close connection. Amazingly most of us do. My Grandfather was a crew chief for a P-47 unit.... I have begged him to talk but he just won't. Sad for me but I don't want him to deal with that....

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Wow! Thanks for sharing, Nigel!

Back to the Mosquito, I must also say "curse you, Parkzone!!!" Looks nice! I have to wonder though, a 50" ws twin flying with one 3s 2200 battery?
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Mike -- keep at it -- My dad started out on B-36 as a navigator, he was converted to a pilot around that time - then moved on to flying transports (Old Shakey) in 'Nam he flew in a Forward Air Unit - Then back to MAC flying C130 and C5A before he was desked and then retired - he is just now starting to discuss his flying history as he approaches 80

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<snip>Are there any actually still flying? I know someone here in the states is working on one (it is in excellent shape but is still wood). But it flew over here 15+ years ago.... I would love to hear twin Merlin's. Mike
Saw it in the hanger at http://www.militaryaviationmuseum.org/, the flight was cancelled due to weather.
But others have seen it flying.

Here's a video:
http://www.youtube.com/v/seEYU8eSqZ8

And some of my Mossie pics:
http://gunnerson.phanfare.com/6073476_6951266

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Mike -- keep at it -- My dad started out on B-36 as a navigator, he was converted to a pilot around that time - then moved on to flying transports (Old Shakey) in 'Nam he flew in a Forward Air Unit - Then back to MAC flying C130 and C5A before he was desked and then retired - he is just now starting to discuss his flying history as he approaches 80
I will but Grandpa is now over 90 years old - he was 16 or 17 when he got it! Many lied about their age....
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Saw it in the hanger at http://www.militaryaviationmuseum.org/, the flight was cancelled due to weather.
But others have seen it flying.


And some of my Mossie pics: http://gunnerson.phanfare.com/6073476_6951266

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solentlife -- it is so cool you have all this history.
My Father was Bomb Aimer / Navigator on Blenheims and then Wellingtons ... did various such as usual over Germany runs ... but also bombing U-Boats ... convoy protection to Malta ... Monte Casino ...
He was affected badly by it all and only talked when he had a few Scotch inside ...
He was on the Berlin Airlift after the War ... flew with Sir Freddie Laker and various... Freddie remained a close friend to him and my Mother.

He flew the B17 that was used in Steve McQueens movie "The War Lover" .. I was taken on it as a young child ...

Here he is navigating the B17 from Canada to UK ...





(cuts from the cine film he made ...)

Sadly his history was lost when he died and I talked to Mum about it ...

I visited Mum on a trip back to UK and she placed a Scrap Book in my hands ... she'd taken what I said and started to put together a record of both their lives in that period.
Sadly she passed on before she completed it. I have that book now ... I scanned and passed on copies to my Children and Brothers ...

So many stories ... my Mum knew Guy Gibson (Dambusters) and his dog ... N***** ... political correctness prevents typing his name.

Moving fwd ... my Uncle owes his life to MASH ... when seriously wounded in Korea ... still carries steel pins / plates to this day ... he was with Canadian Paratroopers ...

It seems that war stays in my family ... at least for myself and my late Brother ... I caught end of Vietnam ... was involved in Iran - Irag conflict - even had US Navy helping guys fire at the ships I was on ... then Guns and Ammo to Central America - you know who .... and to round it all off ... Gulf War 1 ...
I forgot about Papa Doc and Haiti ...

My oldest Son keeps on at me to write a book ... but I don't have the skill and really ... I don't think it would work ...

I listened to my parents ... and still now believe that young people like that who gave up their tender years ... our debt can never be repaid.

Sorry to drift of ... I'm bit tired and things are quiet on assignment at moment ... mind drifting of with the thread ...

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I have the Freewing version which is slightly bigger-1400mm, CR props, scale like LG with servo controlled doors, lights, . Love it !

Here's ex fighter pilot Rich Baker's review: http://youtu.be/K5M7yDsyjPk

The research I did showed that there is only one airworthy Mossie left and it's based in New Zealand. Travels around the world to airshows.

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Nijel,
Those pictures are amazing. For a person who loves history, and until I figure out how to get my time machine working, there is nothing better than tangible history. Take good care of those pictures. I lkie many others are amazed by them

Back to the mosquito well...Drat another plane i want and cant afford. I really like the retracts with it

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The research I did showed that there is only one airworthy Mossie left and it's based in New Zealand. Travels around the world to airshows. -Hawk
I believe you will find that was the Canadian Mosquito, restored in New Zealand over 7 years and currently residing at the Military Aviation Museum. Its a great story. But the museum is selling some of its planes to stay open. I think the B 17 is already gone. Let's hope the Mossie is not on the block. -- ggunners
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Fish,

Amazing plane. Full scale was one of the fastest, if not THE fastest in the war. 50,000 wood screws went in to that baby. A remarkable achievement. Geoffrey Dehavilland was a genius. I love my Freewing Mossy. Top notch, A-one quality. Was $260 shipped from Motion RC. Nitro may have them for a few dollars less. The retracts are metal trunnion and slow, very scale acting. The sequencing of the gear doors adds a very scale touch. I have not added flaps cause I really don't need them but I might add them later just for scale looks. This plane is well suited for grass fields.

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The Mossie was designed with two things in mind ... speed and materials of construction.

It was fast enough that it could get in and out with minimum armament ...

It had some daring raids to do as well ... we all know about the Dambusters with the Lanc's ... but less well known is the Submarine Pens of La Rochelle ..... couple of Mossies flew in - LOWER than the lighthouse at harbour entrance ! bombed the pens ...

The single Mossie that had to destroy the house with a leading Resistance guy in held by Gestapo ...

Wood - why ? Simply because of shortage of materials and lightness.

But it had one bad flaw ... it was known for it's take off and biting those who were not careful with throttles ...

A fictional story but an excellent illustration of its capabilities is the movie 633 Squadron ... made with real Mossies ....

I always find it strange that the Mossie has such a place in many minds ... not only Brit ... despite the fact that USA and Germany had high performance twins as well ...

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Nigel,

I also heard somewhere that the piano craftsmen were not making pianos, so they were put to work with their skills on the Mosquito. Can you verify?

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Nigel,

I also heard somewhere that the piano craftsmen were not making pianos, so they were put to work with their skills on the Mosquito. Can you verify?

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I'm not old enough to do that .. only repeat what my parents and their friends told me ...

I know that it was joked often that Cabinet Makers were employed ... and I heard that one job was construction of stockpiles of Coffins ... not so illogical an idea when you consider it.


Two aspects of materials during the war ...

Collection of metal for the 'Spitfire Fund' ... People were asked to collect all metals possible to aid in building Spits and other war items ... As you can imagine most of the metals were unsuitable - but it was a good moral boosting exercise - let the people think they were directly contributing.

Second was something that my Father repeated and for me was frightening. Bombers carried an axe inside for breaking out of the craft if crashlanded and doors were jammed or inaccessible ... This was fine for a conventional construction airframe ... but the Wellington was Geodetic ... a form derived by a mathematician and modified / developed by Barnes Wallis to create the lightest but strongest form. That had one flaw for the crew ... if you were trapped... that axe was no use to you .. and as my Father said - better to use it on yourself.

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A couple of nice clips:

http://youtu.be/jZLnOlaFGac

Build video(turn sound off)

http://youtu.be/pacluxeWkCw

Probably fly my Mossie this weekend with the maiden of my MK-24 Spitty. " God save the Queen !"

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Nigel, interesting what your dad said about the crash axe. I highly recommend a book for anyone interested, called Tail-End Charlies, by John Nochol and Tony Rennel. Among all it's other subjects, it discussed how the designs of several of the British bombers made quick escape nearly impossible, even on the Lancaster. (Think about the later Avro Vulcan, which only had ejection seats I think for the pilot and co-pilot. everyone else rode it in... And yes, the US is not immune. The Douglas A3D Sky Warrior earned the nickname 'All 3 Dead', as there were no ejection seats, just a hatch in the floor.) It's an extremely enlightening read, on how difficult being in a bomber crew was. Even tougher in the RAF bomber command, as you could leave if your nerves made you useless to the rest of the crew, but you were pretty much labeled as a coward for life. (I forgot the exact term.) One of the best air war books I have read.
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Yep, the two pilots in the Vulcan could eject, the other three had to climb out through the bottom hatch. There's a famous incident when the pilots bailed quite early without waiting for the others to get out first. My old man piloted nuclear defence Vulcans........
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Yep, the two pilots in the Vulcan could eject, the other three had to climb out through the bottom hatch. There's a famous incident when the pilots bailed quite early without waiting for the others to get out first. My old man piloted nuclear defence Vulcans........
That's an interesting phrase ... Nuclear Defence Vulcans ....

Guy I knew years ago worked on various electronic projects including the first Head Up Visor displays etc. and the TSR and its world beating systems. All shelved, boxed up and handed across by the then bankrupt Govt to USA ... but that's another story ....

He reckoned that two RAF aircraft type Pilots were literally PRE-listed for medals if war ever broke out with Russia ... EE Lightning and Vulcan pilots as it was generally regarded as a one way mission with little chance of return.

On the subject of bailing out ... the tail End Charlie really did have the bad end of the stick ... he couldn't wear a parachute doing his job, the turret had to be turned a certain angle to get in / out, and if plane had lost power etc. he was doomed ... hence the derivation of the nickname.

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Originally Posted by solentlife View Post
On the subject of bailing out ... the tail End Charlie really did have the bad end of the stick ... he couldn't wear a parachute doing his job, the turret had to be turned a certain angle to get in / out, and if plane had lost power etc. he was doomed ... hence the derivation of the nickname.

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Tail end Charlie - is actually the last airplane in the formation (rough spot for sure) not the tail gunner. I know some source both but I thought during the war it was the last plane....

But no question you didn't want to be a tail gunner.....

Here is a great vid of the NZ bird:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGfQQWOsoB8


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