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Old 09-24-2014, 01:55 AM   #1
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Default Heads Up R/C Power Up 17 gram MG servos?

I was going to post this in the radio section but there is much more traffic here and these servos would likely interest more builders in this forum.

I just saw these today: LINK I can't believe the price at $4.95 for MG servos! I use a lot of Hitec HS-81/82/85 servos that these compare with. The price makes me wonder if I'm gonna get what I paid for if you know what I mean. Heads Up has an awesome reputation and I doubt they would risk it selling crap though. Still I'd like to hear from anyone using these servos and what you think of them before I buy at least 8 at this killer price.

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Those servos have slightly more torque than the servos I started with in 1972, and they weighed 1.5 oz each. My old ones took 0.5 seconds to rotate 45 degrees if I remember right.

I have some similar metal gear servos, although slightly smaller, that I love. Fast and smooth.

If I could I would order 8 of these.

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because of the red white and black wires, i would say they are made by turnigy. give Jeff a email and ask him who they are made by.


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It would be nice to hear more about these servos. So far the Iflight 3.1 and 5gm servos have proven to be good servos as I've used a number of them, and they have a smooth geartrain with no slop. I would imagine the slightly more expensive Iflight 17gm metal servos are quality servos.
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Wire color is not a complete guide to who made the servo.
Unless HobbyKing was making Futaba servos years ago.


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Originally Posted by Wildflyer View Post
Wire color is not a complete guide to who made the servo.
Unless HobbyKing was making Futaba servos years ago.

True but with the cheapy servos its a good indication, also GWS have red, white and black servo wires. most of the other servos have orange and brown wires. i am sure futaba is not going to sell their servos for $5.00






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Am I the only one on the planet that just has had total stinker luck with most cheapo servos? I just have not had any luck with 95% of them.

I will await your report - but every time I try cheapo's well, I get a cheapo servo. Don't center, use TONS of power, slow, way lower torque than spec's, heads and arms fail, you name it I get it.

I stopped and just pay the Hitec price. I do admit the HXT 9g type are fine, they center pretty darn good and have good power and durability. They consume a good deal of juice but I know that and watch for it.

I am still looking for the Hitec HS65 killer. Nothing comes close for me, not even marginally.

For $5 might be worth a try. Who knows....but I have tossed more $5-10 servos right in the bin when I get them than I care to admit. For me - I stick with brand names with excellent results (for the most part).

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Am I the only one on the planet that just has had total stinker luck with most cheapo servos? I just have not had any luck with 95% of them.

I will await your report - but every time I try cheapo's well, I get a cheapo servo. Don't center, use TONS of power, slow, way lower torque than spec's, heads and arms fail, you name it I get it.

I stopped and just pay the Hitec price. I do admit the HXT 9g type are fine, they center pretty darn good and have good power and durability. They consume a good deal of juice but I know that and watch for it.

I am still looking for the Hitec HS65 killer. Nothing comes close for me, not even marginally.

For $5 might be worth a try. Who knows....but I have tossed more $5-10 servos right in the bin when I get them than I care to admit. For me - I stick with brand names with excellent results (for the most part).

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I'm with you Mike. Been a Hitec fan for many, many years and have stayed away from the cheap stuff for the longest time. I have seen a lot of folks posting good results from the offshore stuff for quite a while though. I even broke down and got some of the HXT-900's a year or so ago. Like you say they are power pigs but they seem to work well. I don't put them in anything I have a strong attachment to.

At $5.00 for a metal gear servo I certainly won't expect the quality of a Hitec but they may be worth a look see. I was hoping for a review from someone that actually had some in a plane before I make the order. I'll probably just get 4 and be the Guinea pig. If they're total crap maybe I'll get lucky and the metal gears will work in a Hitec.

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I have lots of E Max servos from Headsup and they are fine. Also have genuine Futaba servos, they work fine as well, and I'm not sophisticated enough to notice any difference.
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I have lots of E Max servos from Headsup and they are fine. Also have genuine Futaba servos, they work fine as well, and I'm not sophisticated enough to notice any difference.
I have a bad taste from the E Max servos. I bought a T-Rex 250 clone package from a local guy a while back that came with NIB E Max 9 gram servos. Just in the few minutes it took to do the bench trim one fried. I then put HS-45's on the mainshaft and tried another E Max on the tail. It too fried on me. Oh, and that was using a Castle Creations BEC set to 4.8 volts. That clone 250 sits stripped of electronics in a box. I doubt I'll mess with that thing again. 450 or bigger for me.....

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I bought 8 of the 12gm version of the metal gear PowerUp servos this spring when they were on sale.
http://www.headsuphobby.com/Power-Up...ervo-H-236.htm
They have not been in a plane yet, but I have powered them up on a spare RX/ESC and all worked fine. They seem to center well and handle the test of me providing resistance on a servo arm with my finger just fine. Normal running current was about .25 amp with no load on the servo arm. A peak of about .6 amps when stalled. All current measured from the battery, not directly from the servo.

So far, I'm a yes, but not fully tested so use with caution....

Like others I have had good success with the EMax 12gm Analog Metal Gear servo (ES08MA) I have them in my Firestorm and Daddy-O and are still going after 3 years. Mine are the version 1 which are no longer available. I have not tried the ver II which are out now.

My thought is that you can't go wrong with HeadsUp. They will make it right if you have any issues.

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I had to wait to get home to do it but I just ordered 4 of the 17 gram MG servos. I'll be finishing up another MM Tyro 150 soon and I'll test pairs of them on the flaps so they won't be on a critical surface.

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I forgot that I now have the plastic 9gm PowerUp servos in my Groove G480 and they work really well.

http://www.headsuphobby.com/Power-Up...ervo-H-400.htm

I started with the TowerPro Hi Torque SG92R servos and did not like them at all. Those do not center well.

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I had to wait to get home to do it but I just ordered 4 of the 17 gram MG servos. I'll be finishing up another MM Tyro 150 soon and I'll test pairs of them on the flaps so they won't be on a critical surface.

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I had to wait to get home to do it but I just ordered 4 of the 17 gram MG servos. I'll be finishing up another MM Tyro 150 soon and I'll test pairs of them on the flaps so they won't be on a critical surface.

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Hi Joe What I do to test Receivers, ESC and Servos that have been in a Crashed Plane, is that I make a Flat Profile Cheapy plane to test them in, if all goes well after a few flights, then i put them in other planes. Its just some cheap insurance to save a Nicer Plane Take care and have fun, Chellie

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I have a bad taste from the E Max servos. I bought a T-Rex 250 clone package from a local guy a while back that came with NIB E Max 9 gram servos. Just in the few minutes it took to do the bench trim one fried. I then put HS-45's on the mainshaft and tried another E Max on the tail. It too fried on me. Oh, and that was using a Castle Creations BEC set to 4.8 volts. That clone 250 sits stripped of electronics in a box. I doubt I'll mess with that thing again. 450 or bigger for me.....

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Good chance it was a bad batch, but still what does that say about their qc.
I had a similar experience with HXT servos, where something like 3 of 5 didn't work. It turned out that if I moved them by hand and then cycled them a bit, the pots seemed to "clean up" and I ran a number of test cycles without issue, but would someone trust them? I use those for rudder or nose wheel steering servos on 4ch planes where I have no rudder mix.
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Bill, it is a very good chance they were from a bad batch. Especially with 2 of 4 failing. I have no idea where the guy bought them from either. No big deal. If I had to count I'm sure I have well over 100 servos. Those two bad ones aren't going to make me cry.

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Tracking number shows the servos should be here Monday. That's pretty darn quick for only $2.00 shipping charge. I've bought from them a few times before but forgot how much I loved that low shipping cost.

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three days to me from headsup, sometimes 4, and $2 is a deal.
They always ship really fast for me also. USPS has been a different story lately. I should get my order today, that HURC shipped almost 7 days ago. Tracking shows it sat in the Orlando USPS post office for something like 5 days.
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Tracking shows it sat in the Orlando USPS post office for something like 5 days.
Uh-oh! Tracking shows mine to be sitting in Orlando right now! No big deal. #1. I really don't NEED the servos right now. #2. It's not HURC's fault it's USPS. #3. HURC's reputation tells me I'll be happy no matter what. My previous orders have all been perfect. #4. For $2.00 shipping who in their right mind would complain!


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Bill, it is a very good chance they were from a bad batch. Especially with 2 of 4 failing. I have no idea where the guy bought them from either. No big deal. If I had to count I'm sure I have well over 100 servos. Those two bad ones aren't going to make me cry.

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How many of those are HS-55s?

I've been using HXT-500s and HXT-900s ever since I bought Nico Hobbies from Adam back in 2010. In the dozens of airframes I built for sale, and all of the personal planes I did, I've not had a single one fail on me out of the package or strip a gear without having been in a crash first. And even when I did crash, most servos just kept right on running. Nor have I had any complaints from customers.

But, those will only go in my sub-2 lb airframes. I would not put them in anything fast or that required lots of torque.

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How many of those are HS-55s?
OMG! I remember several years back I did a count and it was over 60! I've gotten (and given away) many more HS-55 since then. I just looked in my N.I.B. servo drawer and there are 16 N.I.B. Hitec's from HS-56 to 85MG in there. Also two Futaba S9257 heli tail servos along with a pile of HXT-900's. None of this takes into account the servos in 31 ready to fly planes. At an average of 3 servos per plane.......Dammit! No wonder I'm broke!

Hello, my name is Joe and I'm a servoholic.

But seriously, I hope to actually start flying much more this year rather than just building. I have so many maiden flights to do that are 2-3 years old that it's absolutely insane.

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I hardly did any flying this year myself. I'm selling Nico Hobbies back to Adam next month, so I'll have more free time to just go and fly. Been a while since I was able to go to an event and just relax and fly.

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I hardly did any flying this year myself. I'm selling Nico Hobbies back to Adam next month, so I'll have more free time to just go and fly. Been a while since I was able to go to an event and just relax and fly.
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