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Old 07-13-2013, 06:38 PM   #1
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Default 49" - British BE12a Build - Peter Rake Design

Good morn to all,

I had so much fun on my last WWI biplane I decided to do another from the same era. Need an allied plane to add to my hangar, and I love the "spindly" look of the British BE12a kinda so ugly, it's actually beautiful I really like the design, and I hope I can do this build justice.

The design is by Peter Rake (49" WS and only 22oz), and the kit is die-cut by Manzanolaser. I have built other kits put out by Charlie at Manzano, and they are really nice. Here's the link to his site... scroll down about half way if your interested.
http://www.manzanolaser.com/html/peter_rake.html
There are also some other builds of this plane posted over on RCgroups, but I have fun posting up my progress and it keeps me motivated to keep going sometimes. Hopefully someone else can learn something from at least one of my posts.

Anyway here's some pics of what comes with the kit, and the first steps of my build. Cut 1/16 x 3/16 strips and soaked in water for a few minutes till fairly rubbery. Then bend and pin to shape. Once dried I will glue with PVA glue and add stringers...

Thanks for looking. Have a great weekend!

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Looks like a very good template "road map" to follow and the balsa cut-outs look well crafted......I'm with you, she's not "ugly" at all.....love the exhaust pipe rigging.

Look forward to more on her....I'm not quite at that stage of building, so your post will have me looking for a simular foamie version......good stuff Forge!

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Forge looking forward to following along on your build. I took a looky over at the other site she is a pretty one when done. Dang that is a lot of rigging wire. I can't wait to read how much you enjoy setting the rigging wires.
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"Spindly" is right . Is that round thing hanging from the top wing the gas tank?


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Originally Posted by dgjessing View Post
"Spindly" is right . Is that round thing hanging from the top wing the gas tank?

yup sure is... I wouldn't want that gas tank over my head with guys shooting at me up at 5,000' too bad these weapons of war needed to be designed in the first place. but they are amazing feats of engineering, especially considering the designers and builders where at the cutting edge of technology...


gramps, the other build on RC Groups is really nice. my skills and patience are not of museum quality caliber... i expect mine will be more of a stand off... far off scale ...And, I really enjoyed rigging my last bipe. I got some really good rigging gear for my last build that saved me a ton of time from an existing Eflite Albatros replacement parts.
http://www.horizonhobby.com/products...-25e-EFL460514

I like the fact that I can really use the turnbuckles to tension each wire up separately... it really worked nicely previously. And, if a line goes a bit slack from humidity or torque, you can easily tighten it right back up. The wires added a tremendous amount of strength to the wing. I will definitely use smaller attachment points then I used on my Pfalz... I learn something new every time.

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Originally Posted by Forge View Post
yup sure is... I wouldn't want that gas tank over my head with guys shooting at me up at 5,000'
Not much of a choice with a mechanical fuel pump (if it had one at all). Put the tank anywhere else, do a roll or loop, and break suction= big trouble.

I'm either going to get good at flying em, or get good at fixin em!
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Ha Ha i knew it would not take long for you to start gluing again Forge . I'am sighned up also. joe
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Good evening, I hope all here are well. it's been a while and I have been slowly whiling away in the basement here and there. Fitting a few pieces for the wings.

This is a nice kit and is going together fairly simply so far. The wing construction is only roughed out for now. ...there are a lot of ribs, which looks nice... i will still need to add anchor points for all the rigging and struts.

I find that I had to cut some of the spars by hand, as I couldn't find the right size wood in my local hobby shop. But no major challenge so far.

I have been out flying some of my other planes, as the weather here has been beautiful the last few weeks.

Have a great weekend.

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Looks great Forge and the little guys tanks are pretty cool. I buy and sell old kits and have three 60's Auroa tank kits now plus alot of other ww1 kits . I have not been building for a while but i am happy to see you and the boy plugging away at it. joe
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I'm also at that point of adding all the rigging points on a biplane, which is a lot easier to do when I remember to do it before covering. The Rake planes do look good with all the wing ribs. I really like my M1c that also has the added partial ribs at LE, and probably will build another Rake someday. I even have a Peter pilot waiting for a future build.


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Forge the plane is coming along great I do enjoy seeing the frame work before covering.
Looking forward to how you do the rigging and pics. Keep that little one on the models he looks like he has fun hope he continues with it so you have a flying buddy.
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Good evening to all,

I don't mean to get in the way of all the awesome $50 build contestants getting to it right now. very nice work by everyone in the competition. keep it up.

... and thanks Joe, Bill and Gramps for your comments ...I have been whiling away, and slowly adding a piece here and there to my build.

Once again, I am really enjoying myself with this construction. I haven't finished out my wings yet, but I have added anchor points for my rigging and struts. I the mean time I decided to move onto some fuselage construction, which is fairly straightforward so far. I just have to decide if I will do a pull, pull set up for the tail feathers. Never done that, so I will have to make my mind up on that fairly soon. Peter has spec'ed out some really nice levers for doing the tail controls and I may have to give it a try just to push the envelope.

Anyway, here are a few photos and notes to the latest work.

Thanks for looking.

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Good Sat evening… Just sending in my quarterly build update...

Wish I had more time, but something always seems to take more priority. Anyway, been have a few fits of building every few days here or there. ..may not look like much but, I've done a pull pull set up, and I was stumped for a while just trying to figure out how to arrange all of the servos, arms, rods and connections. …I think I am going in the right direction. I coulda just done a simple push rod, but I wanted to push myself and this plane just seems to need them, especially since it was on the real plane.

Finished up most of the cowl, tail area for stab, and battery hatch… having fun… some pics below show the latest progress.

Have a great evening.

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ps…itching to fly here sometime if the weather breaks in the right direction..

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...a couple more shots since it's been so long…


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Looks great Forge and iam waiting for some good flying weather too. I have been trapped in my house with bad weather for so long its getting old. Good looking build and we still have plenty of winter building left. joe
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Good Sunday night,

I've been on the slow boat with this build, but I am plugging away when I have open time… wish I had more time

Made a little more progress over the past few snowy weeks here in CT. I can't seem to help myself, and I know it's probably slowing me down, but I keep jumping back and forth between the wings and the fuselage on this build. The fuselage has some really tricky rudder and elevator linkage for the pull pull set up…at least for me …so I switched back to the wings while i try to sort out my process and fit…


..anyway. I set up the lower wing aileron servos. I used some HG 81s that I had around from another build and they just just fit into the wings, but make it. bent some wire for the top wing braces, slotted all the hinge lines, sanded down my wing edges… and little bits here and there.

Anyway more detail below on the photo comments.

I hope all are well, and getting some flying weather, in your neck of the woods. …or some good building time

Peace

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Nice Forge its great to watch a good builder have at it. When i was younger i would built two planes at once and bounce back and forth to break things up while in the shop. Helped me to not get burnt out on one build:-) Cant wait to see it covered sir! joe
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Joe,

Thanks for the comments. I'm having fun with this, just picking away at it. Sometimes I get hung up on details and need to work them out in my head a few times before I take action. I did a bit more work over the weekend, and I will try to post up a few more pictures and details later after I get home from work. My build is starting to roll forward now... I hope.

I used to be young too I'm old on the outside now and in my 50's, but still feel like 12 on the inside.

...what are you working on these days? Unless I am missing something? I haven't seen your masterworks lately... It's winter time, great time to head to the dungeon and get some work done.

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Joe,

Thanks for the comments. I'm having fun with this, just picking away at it. Sometimes I get hung up on details and need to work them out in my head a few times before I take action. I did a bit more work over the weekend, and I will try to post up a few more pictures and details later after I get home from work. My build is starting to roll forward now... I hope.

I used to be young too I'm old on the outside now and in my 50's, but still feel like 12 on the inside.

...what are you working on these days? Unless I am missing something? I haven't seen your masterworks lately... It's winter time, great time to head to the dungeon and get some work done.

Thanks!

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Ha Ha iam working on a 1959 cushman scooter right now ,one of my other hobbys Its taken me 9 years to hunt all the orignal parts so now its time to finish it. I still have the twin otter on my bench and a couple more on other building benches i have but i had to finish this and repair some of my other toys . They can go south fast if i dont keep them up. This is my 97 road king ,new battery / drive belt new tires ,valve push rods and a new carb and cam this winter. joe


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Joe,

Cooooooool. very nice ride and very cool to hear about the cushman build. ...post up a picture… although it might violate site rules, unless it's electric.

It's great to have other hobbies and passions, it makes life interesting. I have all sorts of hobbies and sports that I love... keeps me busy, and helps me forget about work too.

Have a great eve,

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Forge still following along on your build looking good as usual you do nice work. I have been doing the same on a build jumping from wing to fuselage, and back. I wonder what will be done first my wing or the fuse.
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Old 02-20-2014, 12:18 AM   #24
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gramps.. thanks… I have a few more steps complete that I need to post up.. maybe later.

…what you working on? I don't see anything posted up, unless I am missing something. I know it's extra work sometimes to keep the build threads going in addition to actually building.

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It is work to keep a build thread going, and I am not the best at keeping it up to date. I am building a GP Patriot 40 I am kinda a sucker for abuse in converting these wet planes to electric. http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=72991
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