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Old 07-28-2014, 09:12 PM   #1
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Hello All,

I'm new to the EDF scene and I'm interested in diving into my first build but I'm a little unsure how to start.

I have been flying a Parkzone Habu for about a month now that a co-worker gave me and it's been fun, but it was pretty beat up when I got it and I think I'm ready to build something of my own.

I know the Phase 3 F-16 is an extremely popular EDF for beginners and experts alike and I think I've settled on it being something I would enjoy building, but I can't seem to find a consensus on a good power system to run in it.

They don't make the receiver-ready models anymore (as far as I can tell) and I would like something affordable that will get me decent performance. I don't need to push the limits, I just want something I can get started with.

Does anyone have any recommendations for a power system? Thanks!
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Not sure where you go to purchase stuff, but any decent 3S 55mm fan setup would work nicely. The stock power system was 55mm and flew it about 70mph.

However, if you are looking for the RX-ready kit, my friend Richard at Airshow RC still has it listed on his website:

http://www.airshowrc.com/f-16_phase_3_.html

He's in Colorado too (Denver), so he may be local. You can contact him at wingspan100@gmail.com to see if he still has these.

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Old 07-29-2014, 12:17 AM   #3
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Not sure where you go to purchase stuff, but any decent 3S 55mm fan setup would work nicely. The stock power system was 55mm and flew it about 70mph.

However, if you are looking for the RX-ready kit, my friend Richard at Airshow RC still has it listed on his website:

http://www.airshowrc.com/f-16_phase_3_.html

He's in Colorado too (Denver), so he may be local. You can contact him at wingspan100@gmail.com to see if he still has these.
Great! Thank you! I sent him an email because I will be all over that if he has some in stock. Otherwise I'll shoot for a decent 55mm fan. Thanks again.
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Be sure to tell him his friend Pat wants a kickback if he does have them.

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I have one and the Squall from Phase 3. Pretty easy flyers but I thought they were 64mm. Got mine from Hobby People.
They go on sale from time to time.
some guys have been hopping them up with Mercury edf's from Taiwan. Google it and you'll see. Makes it a Rocket ship.

Only downside to Phase 3 is that they are made from beer cooler foam.
If you want an easy flyer but more durable(EPO) consider the Freewing 64mm F9F Panther. Value Hobby and Motion RC have them for around $80 PNP

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No more receiver ready kits from Airshow RC unfortunately so I'm back to square one.

I think they're have been a few versions of the F-16 because the Hobby People website says the stock fan setup is 55mm but it seems from what I could gather that most people are putting 64mm or 70mm fans in the air-frame pretty easily now that they don't come with a stock propulsion system.

Thanks for the recommendation of the F9F. I'll take a look at that. That seems to be right in my budget range.
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the description does say it needs a 55mm fan unit. I bought one of the complete ARF kits a while back, it came with a 70mm fan !! I would go no smaller than a 64mm !

nothing to it, but to do it !
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Yeah it seems like a 64mm setup is as small as most people go. I'm not sure why it's listed as 55mm on the Hobby People website.

In any case, I think I've decided to go with the Freewing F9F since it seems to be another easy flyer, but comes as a receiver ready EPO foamie.

I've gotten in some more stick time with the Habu and I'm feeling more comfortable with its flight characteristics. The only down side is it makes my other conventional prop planes feel so slow!

I ordered an F9F this morning from Value Hobby so I'll get that in the air as soon as I can to test my skills. Eventually I think I would like to upgrade to the 80mm F-86 also made by Freewing. I have always loved the F-86 so hopefully I can get good enough with the EDF's to buy one! Thanks for everyone's help.
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Good luck with it!

I went with a Squall to build for a test bed. If it works out I'll build a second one lighter and faster. I'm running a CS 70mm 10 blade in it with a 2100kv motor on 6S.

Like dahawk said they are beer cooler foam, good and bad points with them.
I glassed mine to give it a chance.

When I die, I want to go like my Grandfather did, in his sleep...... Not screaming like the passengers in his plane.
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I was wondering about that. I always hear people talk about "glassing" airframes, which I assume means adding a fiberglass shell to the exterior, but how exactly do you go about doing that?

You can make a barn door fly with the proper application of thrust!
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"glassing" airframes,
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how exactly do you go about doing that?
I'm no expert at this but searh on google for
glassing foam rc plane turned up some interesting videos.

In my view You just add weight but if looks are very important
try it. Usually You will find Your first attempts too heavy so don't
do this on Your favorite plane before You realy master the techniques.
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I'm no expert at this but searh on google for
glassing foam rc plane turned up some interesting videos.

In my view You just add weight but if looks are very important
try it. Usually You will find Your first attempts too heavy so don't
do this on Your favorite plane before You realy master the techniques.
Well it seems to me like a great way to strengthen the beer cooler foam that the Phase 3 F-16 is made of. But I agree it seems to be a technique that needs practice...

You can make a barn door fly with the proper application of thrust!
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unless your building a "ShowPlane" forget about the glassing. just strengthen the weaker spots on the EF-16 (taileron section).

I've built 2....the little dings/dents and such don't bother me....just throw it and fly it ! it's a tougher jet than you think

if you nose in on your maiden flight....gonna be easier to epoxy that nose back on without the glass coat !!!

this is just my 2 cents on this

nothing to it, but to do it !
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Dropped a 70mm w/ 10 blader in my Squall. Should be good to go now. Just need to replace broken elevon horn.
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