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Old 03-08-2014, 06:22 PM   #1
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Default please help identify this attic find

After working with a guy at work for over 8 months and speaking daily about
rc aircraft he suddenly remembers that his dad used to fly in the late 70's and may have some old planes.
Next day he let's me know his dad still has some stuff in the attic and I can have it all ffor $50. Couple of planes he said, so I agreed sight unseen.

I may have hit a mini jackpot. Here's what he brought to work for me.

-- A Carl Goldberg Skylark 56 mark II Kit new in box
-- A M&H balsa products sportster 40 kit new in box
-- An OS Max 40F SR almost new in box. Run once and stored since.
-- And an extremely poorly painted completed pattern ship I don't recognize.

All of these item were put in the attic around 1978 or 1979 and forgotten about.

Seems I'm having trouble uploading pictures. They will follow shortly.

Edit.. Still having problems with pictures but have found out it is a hanger 9 contender.

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Open the picture in Paint, select all, resize to 30%, crop, save as (a new name).JPG

Then try the upload again. The normal cause of fail is too large a file.
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That Carl Goldberg SkyLark 56 is a jackpot win! Been seeing this kit sell for over 200 dollars, and more. Yup you hit the mother load on that one.
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Originally Posted by fhhuber View Post
Open the picture in Paint, select all, resize to 30%, crop, save as (a new name).JPG

Then try the upload again. The normal cause of fail is too large a file.
I run Linux not windows. All I have available to me is gimp and I haven't quite got it figured out yet.

In the mean time here is a link to a thread where I was able to post the pics.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2120187

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Old 03-08-2014, 11:05 PM   #5
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Originally Posted by gramps2161 View Post
That Carl Goldberg SkyLark 56 is a jackpot win! Been seeing this kit sell for over 200 dollars, and more. Yup you hit the mother load on that one.
That's what I noticed when I searched for info online. Looks like the kit hasn't been available for over thirty years but there was an arf released more recently.
If it flies as well as everyone says it will I'm in for a real treat.

The biggest question mark is that sportster 40. There is not one reference to it in a google search. It's as if that company has been lost to time and no-one remembers it.
It is a nice looking kit. leading and trailing edges, and wing tips, are pre formed and the wood is a really good quality. I'm looking forward to seeing how it goes together. I may even use the period correct OS Max 40 int it.

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You will love the Skylark, I've had a bunch and they all flew great.

The pattern plane is an early TopFlight Contender.
The plane was ugly, but it built real fast and flies very nicely. It was advertised as 8 hour construction. I could build the airframe in 8 hours, but not finish it completely.

Here are the plans for the Contender
http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=59833
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Originally Posted by Wrongway-Feldman View Post
I run Linux not windows. All I have available to me is gimp and I haven't quite got it figured out yet.

In the mean time here is a link to a thread where I was able to post the pics.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2120187
No need to play wirth resizing / graphic programs.

Register a free account with Photobucket.com ... upload pictures to there ... making sure library is public ... OK it means that others can view your pics - but that's the point anyway !

You then copy the IMG code of the picture you want to put to a post and paste it into the post you make.

Viola - you get a photo embedded into the reply ...

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Always wanted to try linking photos from RCG. I just copied his image location and clicked on the photo icon then pasted the location.

Take care and thanks for posting at WattFlyer!!

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Originally Posted by Wrongway-Feldman View Post
.....The biggest question mark is that sportster 40. .....
I believe the Sportster was kitted by a couple named Murray & Helen Hope.....
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Originally Posted by DEG View Post
I believe the Sportster was kitted by a couple named Murray & Helen Hope.....
That sounds right seeing the name is M&H. I'm just surprised there is zero info on the web. It is a quality kit and one would think there would be more info out there about them.

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Originally Posted by Wrongway-Feldman View Post
I run Linux not windows. All I have available to me is gimp and I haven't quite got it figured out yet.

In the mean time here is a link to a thread where I was able to post the pics.
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2120187
Hi I Use Ubuntu / Linux, try using FOTOXX, its what i use to resize pics, I delete the top Pictures pix numbers and enter 1000 then hit enter and hit save, and that seems to work with WF. You got a great Deal with all the goodies that you bought.

http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Multi...xx-22291.shtml

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OP, if the plane picture in post #8 is your "mystery plane"... that's a Top Flite Contender.

Good-flying model, but it has a assymetrical yaw issue that you should be aware of. That one does not have the wing-tip mod necessary to correct the problem, so if you get that bird air-worthy be VERY careful when using the rudder.

The Empire still offers this kit; look for the manual PDF download on the Tower site, it should have the addendum on the advberse yaw situation.

I built one with a 70 Surpass. The kit is moderately difficult to build, especially the balsa front end. Looks like whoever built that one bagged (said to heck with it) the chin scoop.

Anyway... if the builder did the ventral flap mod, be sure to hook it up with an extra servo. That adds a tremendous amount to the model's flight envelope.

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Originally Posted by LSP972 View Post
OP, if the plane picture in post #8 is your "mystery plane"... that's a Top Flite Contender.

Good-flying model, but it has a assymetrical yaw issue that you should be aware of. That one does not have the wing-tip mod necessary to correct the problem, so if you get that bird air-worthy be VERY careful when using the rudder.

The Empire still offers this kit; look for the manual PDF download on the Tower site, it should have the addendum on the advberse yaw situation.

I built one with a 70 Surpass. The kit is moderately difficult to build, especially the balsa front end. Looks like whoever built that one bagged (said to heck with it) the chin scoop.

Anyway... if the builder did the ventral flap mod, be sure to hook it up with an extra servo. That adds a tremendous amount to the model's flight envelope.

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That contender will be on the back burner till at least next winter. It will be a big job getting in proper shape.
It has been painted over the covering on the wings and tail feathers and painted on the bare wood fuselage.
I just don't have the time at the moment as im just putting the finishing touches on a mountain models EVA sport and just started the prep work on a Sig Kobra.
Not to mention the half dozen foamy scratch builts I'm playing with.

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Originally Posted by Wrongway-Feldman View Post
It has been painted over the covering on the wings and tail feathers and painted on the bare wood fuselage.
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Ugh. Sounds like swap shop fodder, to me.

Some travesties just aren't worth saving...

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Originally Posted by LSP972 View Post
Ugh. Sounds like swap shop fodder, to me.

Some travesties just aren't worth saving...

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Normally I'd agree but im using it as a challenge to see if I can actually restore it. Not much else to do in the winter in these parts.

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Understand. Good luck with it.

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WOW you should go play the power ball guy !!
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WOW you should go play the power ball guy !!
George
Thought about it but we don't have power ball up here.
Just laid out the plans for the Goldberg the other night and have started the prep for the build.
I'm really taking my time with this one as I don't want to mess anything up. Have a feeling it may be the jewel of my collection when done.

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Hope it turns out great for you guy !
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