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Old 07-18-2014, 12:31 PM   #1
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Default Shed a tear for Vulcan 558 ....

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-l...shire-28276162

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That's too bad. Was lucky enough to see one fly, perhaps even this one, back in the early 80's in Aviano Italy. I'll never forget that thundering ear piercing sound at takeoff, and the high alpha climb out. It's such a massive plane.
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I always think it sad ... we have DC2, DC3's still flying ... 707's .. Canberra's ... all sorts of oldies .... but two of the most identifiable icons ever - Vulcan and Lightning ...

The Lightning is already consigned to history - even the South Africans have had to stop ... and the Vulcan will ground out in 2015 ...

Concorde's no more ...

Soon all we will have is a few Youtube vids ...

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Sad. I remember they said she'd only have so many years of flight once restored. Didn't know it was so fast approaching.
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Yeah, it's a shame that no one can refurbish those old Olympus turbines. You would have thought that there would be engines with plenty of hours left in them in some of the other decommissioned Vulcans that are sitting in museums?
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F-104, F-14, F-111, F-4, OV-10, B-57 Canberra, Vampire, Sea Vixen, BAC TSR.2.....so many.
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A few soldier on. The Starfighters fielded 3 F-104's on the airshow circuit on the east coast for a while. I think they hire them out for training and research now.

The Collings Foundation has an A-4, F-4D, and F-100 still flying.

I thought I've heard of an OV-10 flying somewhere as a restored one. I'm quite certain at least one is being used as a firefighting spotter.

But yes, they are complex vehicles, and I'm sure will get harder to keep flying. At least we can dream a little with our models!
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Reclassify experimental and install alternate engines... They'd need to make mount adapters but modern engines would use less fuel and provide more power.
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Yeah, it's a shame that no one can refurbish those old Olympus turbines. You would have thought that there would be engines with plenty of hours left in them in some of the other decommissioned Vulcans that are sitting in museums?
Near Gatwick Airport ... back in the 60 - 70's .... I knew a farm that had rented out barns to BEA / BOAC - renamed BA of course ...

Myself and a pal were visiting there and farmer showed us a very interesting sight.

Complete VC10 engines still in crates stored in the barns. As he said - his barns were rented as 'overflow' maintenance stores. Not only were there the engines, but crates of parts ... nuts / bolts ... you name it - all for the VC10's and 1-11's.

As far as I know - the rental was literally without time limit and that gear was literally forgotten.

At Bishops Waltham - another farm I knew .. we saw a metal object sticking out of a straw pile one day when sheltering from weather ... turned out to be a lost Spitfire - it had landed at the farm when a raid was on and the Transport Girl pilot landed to avoid being caught up in the air-battle. It was partially dismantled but basic airframe was there. I believe a group was set-up to restore her for passing on to an airfield for static display.

If I was rich enough - I would have loved to bought the Concorde mock-up that graced the approach road to London Heathrow Airport ...


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Reclassify experimental and install alternate engines... They'd need to make mount adapters but modern engines would use less fuel and provide more power.
Hopefully it can be done. I think that's what Planes of Fame is doing with their P-59. But as with all of these things, it's all about the money.

And I'm not sure of the legalities, but I think all the military restorations in the US are classified as experimental. I also think I read somewhere the regulations are extraordinarily tight in the UK, so most are restored to just taxiing condition.
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It's a different kettle of fish with the likes of the Olympus. It's far harder to do a engine conversion with an advanced turbojet like the Olympus (which was beyond any other technology of it's day) than with a piston engine such as fitted to a WW2 warbird.
But there still should be plenty of low hours examples of the Olympus floating around in museums. I was sitting in the cockpit of a intact Vulcan not so many months ago at Coventry
What about the engine out of that example? have they all deteriorated into scrap?
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