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Old 07-22-2005, 01:53 AM   #1
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This is my Zoom Race from http://soaringusa.com.
Motor: Neu 1509/1Y/6.7
Prop: RFM 16x17
Battery: 16cells of GP2200s
Esc: Castle Creations 125
AUW: 67 oz
Power: 1300 watts.

Here is a link to video of it also.

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Old 08-05-2005, 09:18 PM   #2
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I built an AZ-Shrike with bllue FFF it does pretty good.

It is a lot of fun to fly

Setup: JustGoFly 400F 2250Kv
APC 5.7x3 prop
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Old 08-06-2005, 12:04 AM   #3
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Very nice and very good color scheme. I tried one of the FFF Shrikes one time but I had a hard time getting the fuse just right.
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Hi all,

Below is a picture of three Nemsis pylon models.

All are powered with Hacker F5D motors from 5 turn on 7 x GP3700 to 7Turn on 12 x GP2000. The latter being darn quick but the GP2000 cells are a little sensitive and seem prone to troubles currently.

That said things are getting better now I am learning to look after them.

F5D in the UK is starting to gain interest as it appears to be elsewhere in the world. I suspect in the next world champs there will be quite a large entry compared to previous years.


Any other new or would be F5D pilots out there?

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Rob,

Welcome to Wattflyer! Nice pylon models you have there.

The only F5Dish plane I have is a Turn Left but it is more of a sport F5D than the real thing.

What is the wingspan on the Nemsis?

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Rob,

Welcome to Wattflyer! Nice pylon models you have there.

The only F5Dish plane I have is a Turn Left but it is more of a sport F5D than the real thing.

What is the wingspan on the Nemsis?

Jason
Here is the spec. With a nice Hacker or a Neu motor up the front spinning a 4.7 x 4.7 at 40,000 rpm they keep my mind focused when flying them.

The record time so far is 65 secs round a 10 lap FAI coarse (not me unfortunatly), that is less than a second a lap slower than the record for a a full house F3D model. It wont be long before the Electric model is faster!

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Hello all,

Here is my Graupner Mini Viper.
Powered by speed 400 6V, cam speed prop 4,7x4,7, 3s lipo kokam 1500. Performance is good for such a ceap motor. I get about 17k rpm out of a new speed 400.
Will probably soon try a Neu 1105/2,5Y on cam speed 4,7x4,7 and 3s of the new epower Poly 1200XP. Should get more interesting

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Rob,

Who sells the Nemsis? I am going to look into that one. That would be a step up from my Turn Left.

My Turn Left has been a fun pylon plane for me because its reasonably fast and easy to see.
I am running a Mega 16/25/2, 3s2p Thunderpower 4200 pack, CC45 and a 5.2x5.2 prop.

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Rob,

Who sells the Nemsis? I am going to look into that one. That would be a step up from my Turn Left.

My Turn Left has been a fun pylon plane for me because its reasonably fast and easy to see.
I am running a Mega 16/25/2, 3s2p Thunderpower 4200 pack, CC45 and a 5.2x5.2 prop.

Jason
The turn left appears to be a great model and if there was more interest in Electric pylon in the UK i would happily run a limited class using models like the TL. Interest is growing so hopfully this will be somthing we can do in the future. Shame you dont live in the UK Jason.

I have listed all the available new spec F5D models on my web site www.f5d.co.uk and we are trying to review them all over the comming months. The Nemesis is still my preferred model currently and i have been flying the red one all year and we now have may hours together under out belt.

I would not hesitat to recomend the Nemesis to anyone however the Jibe and the Cyclone are also good models and are of a better build quality, but harder to get hold of currently.

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I consider this a "High Performance" airplane. It is the Sig Wonder I built to be electric. AXI 28/14/10, Kokam 2000mAh 15C, Phoenix-45, on an APC 8x6 E-prop. I tached it just under 14,000 rpm, and it is much lighter than my buddies with a .25 2-stroke. He think mine is a little faster than his. Come to think of it, it is the fastest thing at our field!


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Old 08-10-2005, 11:45 PM   #11
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Rob, thanks for the link.
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Old 08-16-2005, 02:25 PM   #12
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Hi all from the Land of Oz,
Here are a couple of my quickies: F5B Monny Mk1 1.65mtr.
Hacker B407L, 6.7:1 gearbox
17x13 folder on 7 degree twisted hub
Kontronic FAI18 esc
10 x GP3300 NiMH pushed cells

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Old 08-16-2005, 06:25 PM   #13
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How do you like the Monny? Do you have a photo of it? Sounds like you have a nice power system in it.

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Old 08-22-2005, 02:29 PM   #14
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Hi Jason,
sorry for the late response:o ,but onto the subject matter. The Monny is a great aircraft,quick and has reasonable energy retension in the turns. However it only has a two servo wing which limits the ability to reconfigure the wing for the thermal task in F5B, so I also have purchased a Zoom Race which I hope will be a better all rounder. By the way what servos have you used in your Zoom, I'm tossing up between Volz wing max and Hitec HS5125MG for the wing .

Will post pics of my hotrods when my computer or dumb fingers learns how to reduce the file size, as photos from my camera even on low res come in at 137mb which is too big for this site.

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HR,

I am using HS125's in my wing. The HS 5125's are the same size. These fit pretty well in the flap locations but protude slightly in the aileron locations. Here two pics of my servo's squeezed in. I am sure the Volz will fit better but they are more expensive.

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Hey now,
Those are some hot models fur sure, I guess my little CSD Twister (Astro 020, Cam 5.2-5.2, T.P. 2100 3s pack) just doesn't quite cut it, although the radar gun finaly "saw" it at 135 mph...
Gotta start saving my pennies for something really hot and a bit larger so I can see the thing
Oh well, I'm having fun...
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That is why I like my Zoom Race, big, fast and easy to see.
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Hey now,
I saw that Zoom race, looks nifty but a *lot* of bux! gonna take me years to save up for something that large, gotta find a half step...
My Twister is dying, it's seven years old now and getting kinda beat up. I'm not sure how many high G turns it's got left before the wing folds
I know it's gonna be spectacular when it does let go I just need to find something that size or a bit bigger to replace her.
I sometimes think about chopping one of my 60" slope racers into a sort of hot liner but just can't quite get myself to hack the nose off, and those fuses are kinda narrow...
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Hey now,
In the "ask and you shall recieve catagory, over the weekend a friend offered to sell me his Avionik D-99 with Jr. digital servos for the cost of the servos. It's in fine shape and I think it'll make a nice replacement for the Twister. Yes I know my little Astro 020 won't properly power the thing, but it'll work for a start and from there I'll prolly dump a Mega two turn into it.
I'm a happy camper
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In April we moved back to the Northwest. Enumclaw, Washington to be exact. Since then I've been to all but one of the regional IMAC contests with my son-in-law who has just finished his first year in competition. He's in basic so far, and now getting ready to move up. Of course his planes are gas, and huge.
Sitting on the sidelines and watching has finally gotten to me, so I have built 2 planes that may get me into competition next year after a lot of practice.

Sportsman Aviation Corby Starlet - 27% size Scale Model
Motor - AXI 4120/12
Prop - APC 15x10 E
Battery - Duralite 4S2P 5000 mAh
Receiver - FMA FS-8 Bulletproof
Servos - 4 Hitec HS-645MG High Torque Servos
Transmitter - Hitec Optic 6
ESC - Castle Creations 60Amp, BEC defeated and a 2S1P 1500-mAh pack using a FMA VR-1 Voltage regulator for Receiver power
Weight 114 oz
Static Thrust - 105 oz
Static Current Draw - 52 Amps
Watts - (Astro Whattmeter) 385
Wing Span: 60.75 inches
Wing Area: 730 sq. in.
Wing Loading: 22.49 oz/sq. ft.
Cubic Wing Loading: 9.99 oz./cu.ft.

The plane flies great, and is gorgeous in the air. I've added night lighting, and flying it at dusk is really a thrill. It's a great scale project. It flies at half throttle most of the flight and is good for 12 minutes without pushing the pack.


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Motor - AXI 2826/10
Prop - APC 13/6.5E
Battery - Duralite 4S2P 5000 mAh
Receiver - FMA FS-5 Bulletproof
Servos - 4 Hitec HS-645MG High Torque Servos
Transmitter - Hitec Optic 6
ESC - Castle Creations 60Amp, BEC defeated and a 2S1P 1500-mAh pack using a FMA VR-1 Voltage regulator for Receiver power
Weight 82 oz
Static Thrust - 107 oz
Static Current Draw - 56 Amps
Watts - (Astro Whattmeter) 485
Wing Span: 50.75 Inches
Wing Area: 685 Square Inches
Wing Loading: 17.24 oz./sq.ft.
Cubic Wing Loading: 7.9 oz./cu.ft.
This plane flies the IMAC Basic Aresti perfectly (depending on the pilot). Half throttle for cruising around. 3/4 throttle for most of the IMAC maneuvers. I need a lot of practice to become competitive. It has vertical out of sight and is very maneuverable and predictable. Landings are soft as a feather. All in all it's a great plane. It says that it will fly 3D, but I'm not there yet.

On the bench is a Quique Somenizini Yak 54, 72 inch wingspan. Will follow up on this in weeks to come as it gets put together and flown.
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Hello FDIX,

Nice looking plane ....you say performance is good for such a cheap motor, how good? what kind of speed will it do?
Also I wasn't aware that you could use 3s lippo on a 6v motor I've had a couple of Graupner Terry's with the 6v motor and they say 6-8 cells so that's 9.6v max...Lippo 11.1volt? I got a brushless set up in the end it's a lot faster but I wished I'd known that I could have put a 3s Lippo in there...I would have tried that first.

Forgive my ignorance I've not been flying that long still picking things up.

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Hello FDIX,

Nice looking plane ....you say performance is good for such a cheap motor, how good? what kind of speed will it do?
Also I wasn't aware that you could use 3s lippo on a 6v motor I've had a couple of Graupner Terry's with the 6v motor and they say 6-8 cells so that's 9.6v max...Lippo 11.1volt? I got a brushless set up in the end it's a lot faster but I wished I'd known that I could have put a 3s Lippo in there...I would have tried that first.

Forgive my ignorance I've not been flying that long still picking things up.

Regards Dave
I've powered the speed 400 and 600's with 3S lipo's myself. They are able to handle it, to a point, but they don't last long at all. Which is why I went completely away for the can motors and now fly only Brushless. The added expense pays off in not having to buy new motors when the breshed motors fail.
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Of course 3s lipo on a speed 400 6V is only a temporary solution. I had a few lying around and wanted to get rid of them before going brushless. They last about 30 five minute all out flights.

I don’t know the exact speed, but it’s faster than a microjet which we clocked at 65mph in level flight. Next time I have the radar gun with me I’ll check…
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Hers's a picture of my 7cell F5B ship called Vanessa. I'm using a Hacker motor B506s and a 16/17 RFM carbon prop. AUW is 63oz. I still don't have it fully trimmed out and flying good.
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The Vanessa is a very nice model. I wish I could have seen it fly more.
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