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| View Poll Results: The power system I prefer most is: | |||
| Direct Drive Inrunner |
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5 | 4.20% |
| Direct Drive Outrunner |
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80 | 67.23% |
| Geared Inrunner |
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13 | 10.92% |
| Geared Outrunner |
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1 | 0.84% |
| I love them all the same |
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20 | 16.81% |
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Vote and chime in. |
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I prefer direct, but it really depends on the application. I really like the sound of the GWS gearbox with the Himax motors, makes my Spit sound really good (nothing like the Merlin mind you).
Just depends on the application. Mike |
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Flying for fun!
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Geared.
It gives you more prop and power options. The only down side is fitting them in a cowl. |
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3D and IMAC- Geared
Pattern- Direct Drive -Mike |
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I like direct drive for the simplicity and low weight for my sport flying, but I also understand if you want to get the most power out a given size motor it should be wound with big low resistance wire. That is makes a high speed motor, and a gear box is needed to be able to spin a high effieiency (slow turning) prop.
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Batteries/Chargers
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Originally Posted by admin
You have direct drive, and geared, but you have left off an important option, that of outrunners. I have not seen any of them geared, but they seem to be giving geared units a real run for their money.
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Penguins still can't fly
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I assumed Direct Drive was referring to outrunners. If not..then I rescend my vote and want to see people counting chads!
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Yes..direct drive is "outrunner"....one in the same
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Originally Posted by admin
Start counting chads! If DD means outrunner and Gear box means inrunner... Please disregard my vote and count me out of the discussion. Outrunners are most often used DD and most gearboxes are used with inrunners, but all the combinations have there place and are being used. My vote is to not mix the question of inrunner or outrunner in with this one on gearbox or no gearbox. |
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bz1mcr - hey..you are correct...I need to add another option now! Slight skew until more votes pile in to create statistical significance override. Can't believe I missed that. Whew...long day!
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Outrunners keep getting better all the time. Simplicity, quiet and great power. Also no stripped gears or gear maintenance, just mount and fly.
I have AXIs, Plettenbergs, Hyperions and Hackers in outrunners and all perform great.Doug |
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Direct drive = any motor without some kind of gear box. The prop is attached directly to the motor. It can include brushed and brushless motors, brushless are subdivided into outrunners and conventional (inrunners).
Geared = any device attached to the motor that turns the prop at some other rpm than the motor speed. They are used on brushed or conventional brushless. I don't recall of ever seening a geard outrunner set up. My preferance - outrunners. I expect as the prices on these little jewels continute to drop they will replace the others in all but the low end entry level electrics. |
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geared, direct drive, and someone adds outrunner? :p
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Originally Posted by airflow
A direct drive could be an inrunner or outrunner. The same inrunner motor could be used for a direct drive or geared system. I am assuming by direct drive they are referring to an inrunner as an outrunner is generally direct drive with a case that rotates for more torque..
Doug |
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Electrics are COOL
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I think a new person would be better of with geared that way they dont bend or breck a shaft that they cant replace on there own. |
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Geared; unless S400 pylon or EDF!
http://www.rcgroups.com/gallery/show...500&ppuser=497 http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...84&postcount=5 http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showp...51&postcount=2 http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=195745 The only DD conversion I’ve done was for Rick; and found that the outrunners folks would consider were too hot. Seems that you get big & heavy for a nice Kv @ the prop: 320 on 16R – still looking: http://www.rcgroups.com/links/index.php?id=4485 http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=264085 |
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Actually...the poll is probably a bit flawed...it should have been
Direct drive outrunner Direct drive inrunner Geared outrunner Geared inrunner I think this would cover it? |
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Direct drive outrunner
Direct drive inrunner Geared outrunner Geared inrunner Maybe the poll should include NiCd, NiMh, LiPo ? or ... yes, work on it - a poll with at least 300 choices, ...
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Originally Posted by admin
Love & have them all.
Brushed, brushless, inrunners, outrunners, direct, geared and belted. |
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Can anyone post pictures of each type motor you are talking about ?
I new to this and need to see visuals Bob |
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Here you go.
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Thanks Mike I now know the difference
Do you have any pictures of different mount hardware for the DD and out runners other than stick mounts Bob |
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I run mostly Heli's all DD, but outrunner gets my vote.
Cool poll Marc! Regards, Jay |
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There are two dogs inside of me. One is good, one is evil.
These two dogs are always fighting a constant battle. Which dog wins? The one I feed the most... |
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Even tho geared helps with 3D (listen as much as watch), I prefer the reliabilty and low maintenance and quiet power of the outrunner direct drive.
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Wherever you go... There you are! |
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