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wrghtflyr
04-09-2007, 03:43 AM
I have been flying gas for years and loved it; a recent move to CA. has forced a move to electric. At first I resisted with every ounce of my being, but the need to fly won out, and now I am flying every day at lunch and after work. All I need is a small toolbox and a good multi charger; I love it with one exception, soldering that blooming Deans Ultra connector. I will take any advice anyone has to offer on the subject, wire position, tinning, and types of solder, exe…. Thanks wrightflyr

Twmaster
04-09-2007, 04:44 AM
Deans Ultra plugs can be a bit hard to do.

Couple of important points.

1. Clean. Make sure everything is clean. (this is obvious)
2. Pre tin the connector and the wire. (less heat will be required to join when pre-tinned)
3. >30W soldering iron with a broad tip. (Allows the heat to distribute better)

I put mine in a small vise or locking plyer set to hold the thing still. I then do the above steps. Make sure the iron is hot, tip clean and tinned.

Then place the wire to the connector and put the iron under the blade of the Dean's and allow it to heat till the solder flows. Remove heat. Wait a few seconds. Done.

Also, it might help to have a plug of the opposite sex plugged into the one you are soldering so in the event you get it too hot and deform the plastic of the plug the conductor will stay in place.

I think that's it although I'm probably forgetting something. ;)

Murocflyer
04-09-2007, 04:55 AM
Once again Mike is right on.

Or if you really don't like them, you can go with something a lot simpler. Great thing about this hobby is the choices.

Good info here (http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=17860).

Frank

Grasshopper
04-09-2007, 05:01 AM
One thing I might add to Mike's post. If you do plug the female into a male and put it in a vice, Make sure you don't touch the two exposed posts on the male plug to the vice and short out the pack. I have a male plug that I covered the two exposed posts with heat shrink to make sure I didn't do this.

Twmaster
04-09-2007, 05:02 AM
Good point Tom.

I knew I forgot something! :p

Crash Test Dummy
04-09-2007, 05:47 AM
Great tips guys!! Rite on the money, Deans connectors get easer to do after you do about 150 of them, LOL!!! Just kidding, it will get easer if you practice what TWmaster and Grasshopper posted.

CTD

smokejohnson
04-09-2007, 06:13 AM
I'm going to switch to Anderson Power Poles (http://www.powerwerx.com/category.asp?CtgID=3014), I have the same problem.

Crash Test Dummy
04-09-2007, 06:18 AM
If I didn't have so many Deans connectors, I"d switch the the Anderson's. I hear good things about them.

CTD

Murocflyer
04-09-2007, 06:20 AM
I'm going to switch to Anderson Power Poles (http://www.powerwerx.com/category.asp?CtgID=3014), I have the same problem.

Good choice Smoke, you'll be much happier.

Frank

Murocflyer
04-09-2007, 06:21 AM
If I didn't have so many Deans connectors, I"d switch the the Anderson's. I hear good things about them.

CTD


CTD,

Just sell those things to someone who doesn't know better and come into the light.

Frank

Solid Hit
04-09-2007, 12:51 PM
For me it was switching from a soldering gun to a soldering station (Hakko 936). I set the station to 850 and now each pole takes 2 or 3 seconds without distorting the plug.

To hold the plug and wire I use a little stand with alligator clips on it that I got from Radio Shack for about $8.00.

I use the same setting for soldering the bullet connectors to the motor and esc as well as splicing wires as needed.

At a setting of 250 I use the soldering pencil to work with foam, making a channel for CF rods etc.

herk_1
04-09-2007, 09:16 PM
There's a helpful video here (http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/info.php#Wiring_and_Electronics_Tips_&_Info_).

Murocflyer
04-10-2007, 03:08 AM
There's a helpful video here (http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/info.php#Wiring_and_Electronics_Tips_&_Info_).

Nice link herk -good info. Thanks for posting.

Frank

Tinman
04-10-2007, 01:56 PM
There's a helpful video here (http://www.offshoreelectrics.com/info.php#Wiring_and_Electronics_Tips_&_Info_).

Thanks for linking that video very helpful!

Tinman
04-10-2007, 01:57 PM
Im getting ready to purchase some Dean's Connectors.

Do you use those connectors for everything?

Battery to ESC?
Motor to ESC?

thanks!!

Old Fart
04-10-2007, 07:17 PM
Battery to ESC, yes. Motor to ESC is generally bullet connectors.

Most of the problems people typically have can be traced to insufficient heat. Borrow or buy a soldering gun in the 250W range, you'll be amazed at how much easier it gets.

Murocflyer
04-10-2007, 08:00 PM
Im getting ready to purchase some Dean's Connectors.

Do you use those connectors for everything?

Battery to ESC?
Motor to ESC?

thanks!!

Go with the PowerPoles, you won't regret it.

Frank

Tinman
04-10-2007, 08:31 PM
thanks for the info,

there sure is a lot to this hobby :)

ratbastid
04-10-2007, 10:47 PM
I use Deans between my ESC and my motor. Never had a problem with it.

Best soldering advice I can give you is to buy one of these (http://www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?category=search&item=HELPH-M&type=store). That's a GREAT price, by the way.

Old Fart
04-10-2007, 11:46 PM
I'll definately second the motion to buy a "helping hands"!!

All my motor connections are 3 wire, and many of the brushless motors already come with bullet connectors - so I went that route.

Tinman
04-11-2007, 12:55 AM
I use Deans between my ESC and my motor. Never had a problem with it.

Best soldering advice I can give you is to buy one of these (http://www.allelectronics.com/cgi-bin/category.cgi?category=search&item=HELPH-M&type=store). That's a GREAT price, by the way.

That thing is awesome! And only 5 bucks!