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12-27-2005, 06:48 AM

Well I decided to buy my son (more me) an electric Park Flyer
for Christmas. My local hobby shop suggested a Firebird Freedom
as a good starter. Charged her up and off we went to the park today..It's going to take some getting used to..

Planted it in the ground a few times, and figured that it may have been a bit too windy for beginners (better day for a kite)

We will keep plugging away, and hopefully be able to get a battery's
worth of time in the air before it touches the ground..

The ACT feature on the plane actually caused it to crash a few times.
Should be called auto crash instead of anti crash


Don Sims
12-27-2005, 12:50 PM
Welcome bob, if you get a chance read through the sticky threads posted in the forum and you might consider downloading FMS so you two can get some practice on those windy days. FMS is a free flight simulator.

01-05-2006, 01:08 AM
Read the manual - Gives tons of good info including recommendation to not fly in wind!

Watch the DVD - Lots of good info including recommendatin to not fly in wind.

That plane can probably handle 12-15 mph winds, but you, the pilot can not. That will come with time.

Keep your early flying to calm to 5 mph MAX.

Always launch into the wind and always land into the wind.

More info if you want it. Just let me know.

BTW, did I mention that new pilots should avoid wind???? :)

01-05-2006, 01:12 AM
Please be sure to read this thread too.

6 keys to success in learning to fly

Jeremy Z
01-19-2006, 05:29 PM
Heed Don's advice about FMS. I started in a very similar manner to you. I have a T-Hawk instead of a Firebird, but they are the same type of plane. I went to the park and started out, and drilled it into the ground a couple times, over-controlling the heck out of it. After I broke the first part, I went home & fixed it, then got FMS and a controller and did a lot more (free) crashing there. The next time I went out and flew, I did MUCH better. I still crashed from time to time, but nothing like that first outing.

Now, I only crash when I'm trying something stupid. Aerobatics close to the ground on planes with not enough throw, etc.

Read those sticky threads; they will fill in some of the gaps.


01-20-2006, 02:18 PM
I also had to start with FMS. Landings are a little too easy than real world, but the practice in changing perspective going away and coming toward yourself is excellent!

01-20-2006, 02:41 PM
There are a number of free RC airplane simulators. FMS is probably the best
known. Not as fancy as the expensive ones but it works and can really help
you get your aileron timing down. It will also help you learn to fly the plane
toward you.

The links offer other simulators plus sites that provides a cable that can
connect to
the trainer port on your radio so you can fly the sim using your own radio or
buddy box. I also list some exampels of low cost fully functional radios that
can run the sim AND fly a plane. I believe buddy boxes, which are not
functional radios, can also be used to run a simulator. Finally a low cost
used FM radio that has a trainer port would be an excellent way to run your
sim. I purchased a used Futaba conquest 4 channel FM radio for $10 to use as
a buddy box and to use on a simulator.

Then there is always the chance that someone at the club will loan you an
old radio with a trainer port so you can practice.

FMS Flight simulator Home Page
Free download
http://n.ethz.ch/student/mmoeller/fms/index_e.html (http://n.ethz.ch/student/mmoeller/fms/index_e.html)

Parkflyers for FMS
http://gunnerson.homestead.com/files/fms_models.htm (http://gunnerson.homestead.com/files/fms_models.htm)

Glider RC - Another sim. Have not tried it.
http://glider3d.free.fr/index_en.html (http://glider3d.free.fr/index_en.html)

CRRCsim - Free flight simulator for MacOS/Linux/Windows
http://crrcsim.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?n=CRRCsim.HomePage (http://crrcsim.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?n=CRRCsim.HomePage)
http://crrcsim.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?n=CRRCsim.CrrcSimFaq (http://crrcsim.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php?n=CRRCsim.CrrcSimFaq)


Flight simulator adaptor for Hitec/Futaba and JR radios $10
http://www.gwsexpert.com/index.php?cPath=21_152 (http://www.gwsexpert.com/index.php?cPath=21_152)

RC Trainer
http://www.rctrainer.com/ (http://www.rctrainer.com/)

Virtual RC parallel port
http://www.virtualrcflight.com/details.htm (http://www.virtualrcflight.com/details.htm)

Multiple Sim Cords - Simblaster
http://www.simblaster.com/ (http://www.simblaster.com/)

Sim cables and other items
http://www.clonepac.freeserve.co.uk/products.htm (http://www.clonepac.freeserve.co.uk/products.htm)

USB Simulator cables
http://www.customelectronics.co.uk/ (http://www.customelectronics.co.uk/)

Convert a game controller to a flight sim controller
http://www.rc-airplane-advisor.com/usb-controller-flight-simulator.html (http://www.rc-airplane-advisor.com/usb-controller-flight-simulator.html)

Brand new, Low cost full function 4 channel radios that have trainer ports
that will fly your plane AND act as a simulator constoller with one of the
above adapters. These prices do NOT include servos, receivers, etc.

GWS 4 Channel Radio - $48
http://www.gwsexpert.com/index.php?cPath=15&osCsid=b99b4e88e5041ce7062d893b7b73ea28 (http://www.gwsexpert.com/index.php?cPath=15&osCsid=b99b4e88e5041ce7062d893b7b73ea28)

GWS 4 Channel Radio w/ FMS cable and CD - $69
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=34056&item=5916217443 (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=34056&item=5916217443)

Hitec Laser 4 - $60
http://www.servocity.com/html/4-ch_laser_4_fm_systems.html (http://www.servocity.com/html/4-ch_laser_4_fm_systems.html)

Buddy Box with trainer cord - $35
good for SIM, but will not fly a plane by itself.
http://www.horizonhobby.com/Shop/ByCategory/Product/Default.aspx?ProdID=AIRVG400TR (http://www.horizonhobby.com/Shop/ByCategory/Product/Default.aspx?ProdID=AIRVG400TR)