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Gnascher
04-20-2008, 03:28 AM
Well, we've lived with the new viewer for a while now, and I have to say it really hasn't grown on me.

Reasons:
1. There is no way to see the "fullsize" photo, and the scaled down photos are really awful. They use the browser's cheap and fast resizing algorithm and you get "jaggies" everywhere. This is a problem especially in build threads where you need to show detail. It's also a bummer when someone posts a "beauty shot" that is ruined because of the "jaggies" everywhere.

2. It's sometimes slow to go from photo to photo.

3. The new viewer brings very little benefit (other than the nifty zoom up effect), while taking away the very beneficial feature the old one had that let you see the full size image.

PerlAddict
04-21-2008, 08:27 PM
I feel the same way, but looking at the code, it seems like we're still using HighSlide JS for photo viewing, just with a few other options turned on or changed (new zoom effects, no more "next" and "previous" buttons, though I never really used them anyway). Perhaps the "click for fullsize version" function was just turned off by accident? The lack of fullsize viewing is my only issue ... the rest works fine for me now that the "fade to black" effect on the rest of the page has been turned off.

Larry3215
05-07-2008, 06:46 PM
I agree - we need the "view full size" option turned on.

Detals dont show up in build pics or on plans etc.

Can you do that Mike?

Larry

Mike Parsons
05-07-2008, 07:59 PM
I have it on my list of to do's. I wish it was as simple as flipping a switch, but it was decoded since it conflicted with another JS file. I just have to find the time to sit down and see where the conflict is in VB.

sgf323
05-07-2008, 09:39 PM
This thread needs an example!

sgf323
05-07-2008, 09:47 PM
I liked the way the old photo viewer had forward/back buttons on it. It was easier than having to close the open lightbox and to see and then click on another photo.

buzkil
05-07-2008, 09:48 PM
This thread needs an example!
I don't understand the issue. The photos that you just posted zoomed up to almost full screen for me and were very clear. The edge lines had no jaggies at all.

Gnascher
05-07-2008, 10:15 PM
I liked the way the old photo viewer had forward/back buttons on it. It was easier than having to close the open lightbox and to see and then click on another photo.
You can just use the left and right arrow keys for the same effect.

Gnascher
05-07-2008, 10:39 PM
I don't understand the issue. The photos that you just posted zoomed up to almost full screen for me and were very clear. The edge lines had no jaggies at all.

Yeah, it depends on your monitor size. The code detects your display area and opens the photos as large as it can fit. Those opened full size for me as well, but I've got a 24" wide-screen monitor.

Take a look at the instruction sheet and the edges of the plastics on this photo and you'll see jaggies unless you've got some kind of mega-monitor.

Larry3215
05-07-2008, 11:38 PM
Try these.

They are unreadable on my monitors - laptop and desktop.

Larry

buzkil
05-08-2008, 01:43 AM
Ok I see it now. Nice plane BTW!

Murocflyer
05-08-2008, 02:34 AM
An example. Can anyone read that very well?

Frank

buzkil
05-08-2008, 03:02 AM
No, Not very well. It's like pixils are missing or left out.

Murocflyer
05-08-2008, 03:04 AM
I get the same thing. I think they are being referred to as jaggies.

Frank

sgf323
05-08-2008, 03:47 AM
Sweet!

You can just use the left and right arrow keys for the same effect.

Grasshopper
05-08-2008, 03:49 AM
An example. Can anyone read that very well?

Frank

It's very clear on my monitor.

Bub Steve
05-08-2008, 04:00 AM
I have it on my list of to do's. I wish it was as simple as flipping a switch, but it was decoded since it conflicted with another JS file. I just have to find the time to sit down and see where the conflict is in VB.
Right click, hit "view image, click + an you got full size,,, Pain in the butt, your bub, steve

Murocflyer
05-08-2008, 04:37 AM
It's very clear on my monitor.

Really? I feel cheated. I can barely read that. What are your monitor settings? Maybe it's me?

I have a PC and use Windows if that means anything.

Thanks,

Frank

Gnascher
05-08-2008, 04:51 AM
Frank,

Your image is illegible on my laptop, but just fine on my big desktop monitor.

Mike Parsons
05-08-2008, 01:36 PM
I see all of the photos very clearly as well (laptop set to 1280x768). It must be PC resolution independent. I set it as a work around (when the conflict arose) to have the photo automatically stretch to full size instead of the default 800x600 since the expand X button was removed.

We are going to be upgrading the VB to the newest release soon. I am cautious about doing too many tweaks right now until after we upgrade since they could either A) be undone or B) hose up something else.

Grasshopper
05-08-2008, 02:37 PM
Really? I feel cheated. I can barely read that. What are your monitor settings? Maybe it's me?

I have a PC and use Windows if that means anything.

Thanks,

Frank

It looks fine on my work monitor (19" Acer flat panel) and at home on my 17" flat panel. It's set at 1280 x 1024 pixels and 32 bit color quality.

Larry3215
05-08-2008, 04:51 PM
It must be more than a resolution issue.

No matter what resolution I set my laptop to, the drawings are impossible to read - unless I do the zoom in thing (Control + on my machine).

When the images pop up on my machines they are only about 1/4 - 1/2 the size of the viewing area - no where near full size.

Larry

sgf323
05-08-2008, 06:29 PM
Larry -- What kind of machine and browser are you using? What is the largest resolution you've tried?

I've got Ubuntu, Windows and Mac OS on my desk so I can pretty much check anything you're running to at least let you know if I can get the same result from running the same settings/software.

Larry3215
05-08-2008, 06:38 PM
Im running XP home on an HP laptop IE7 something with the latest up-dates. The desktop is the same software versions and some noname 17" monitor.

On the laptop Ive tried up to 19??x10?? or so.

Larry

sgf323
05-08-2008, 06:41 PM
I ran it with IE7 at 1920x1200 and it fills the screen. Have you tried it in Firefox? It's better than IE anyway ;)

Larry3215
05-08-2008, 07:30 PM
I just tried the max resolution - 2048x1536 and it doesnt change the size of the popup window or the quality of the image on my machine at all.

The desktop is HUGE and extends well outside my normal desktop viewing area and I have to scroll around to see it all.

BUT the IE window is the same size - unchanged.

Do I need to change some other settings?

Larry

Larry3215
05-08-2008, 07:31 PM
Havent tried Firefox yet.

Larry

Larry3215
05-09-2008, 01:53 AM
Just tried Firefox with higher resolution and it makes no difference in the quality or size of the popup picture files.

Still cant read the data/plan files :)

Larry

Murocflyer
05-17-2008, 09:45 PM
I played around with my setting also. No difference. Bummer.

Frank

Larry3215
05-17-2008, 10:50 PM
Nothing Ive tried works either.

However, I do like Firefox better than IE.

It seems noticeably faster loading pages and crashes a LOT less.

Its taken me a few days to get it configured the way I like it but Im very pleased.

Thanks for the tip!!!!

Larry

Mike Parsons
05-18-2008, 03:00 AM
Some pleasant changes will be coming with the new software upgrade. We should be able to return the original photo viewer.

Larry3215
05-18-2008, 03:40 AM
Thanks Mike!!!

Got a time line in mind?

Larry

Mike Parsons
05-19-2008, 12:06 AM
Larry,
Hopefully this week. The Dev server is upgraded and looking good so far. Once it goes gold it will be applied to the in service side.

Larry3215
05-19-2008, 03:46 AM
Great!

Looking forward to it :)

Larry

Larry3215
05-23-2008, 04:06 PM
I already see improvements!

If you left click and THEN right click on an attachemnt after it zooms up, select "view image" then you can zoom in with another left click and get the sharp image you need to read fine text.

Thanks Mike!

Larry

Mike Parsons
05-30-2008, 08:32 PM
We'll I think it is finally done. Should be the best of both worlds now.

constantCrash
05-30-2008, 08:55 PM
Mike, is that a picture of a gear drive system with 4 inrunner motors? i wanna see more.

Mike Parsons
05-30-2008, 09:04 PM
Mike, is that a picture of a gear drive system with 4 inrunner motors? i wanna see more.
It is. I am not sure I have more. It was from SEFF in 05 I think.

this is the plane it was in.

Larry3215
05-30-2008, 09:13 PM
This is indeed the best of both worlds!

Thanks Mike!

On the gear box - I believe that was a one-off prototype that the Hacker guys were working on. As far as I know, it never went into production. They had too many issues getting all 4 motors to run in sync IIRC.

Larry

Mike Parsons
05-31-2008, 02:41 AM
Your welcome Larry. I am glad we could get it worked out. Let me know if you run into any problems with it.

Murocflyer
05-31-2008, 03:31 AM
Looking good! Thanks Mike!

Frank