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wattman
08-15-2009, 03:14 AM
Tonight was the first flight of my Electrifly Sopwith Pup :)
and it was great !
Rolled out tracking straight , lifted off , gained some height , adjusted the elevator and rudder just a small amount , and throttled back to half throttle and this Pup flys so fine , and slow , perfect for this old man . :)
There was no wind just at sunset .
Assembled as per the Sopwith Pup manual .
My pup CG balanced just between the center mark and front mark , just a really small hair , nose heavy .
I was impressed with the quality of the box contents upon opening it , and wondered if it would fly as well as the parts looked , well it does , it is the perfect slow flyer .
I have never had a new first flight rc plane , just take off and fly so well and perfectly ,
Thanks Electrifly for my new favorite plane .
Oh yes it really looks good to me in the air also :)

dbcisco
08-15-2009, 03:25 AM
Any chance of some close up pics?
How does this compare to the Sig and Eflite foam wing WWI ARFs ?

wattman
08-15-2009, 03:51 AM
This review has a lot of pics and a video
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1065742

I do not know how it compares to the foam wing WW1 ARF's ?

But , my favorite slow flyer for 5 years has been the foam Pico Tiger Moth , and now , this slow flying , good looking , Sopwith Pup is my favorite .
Electrifly has provided a great slow flying WW1 biplane , and the plane looks really great in the air flying . I am so pleased with this Sopwith Pup , no wonder this type was the first aircraft to land aboard a moving ship , 2 August 1917 , it can really fly slowly !

Some intersting reading for the Sopwith Pup
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sopwith_Pup
and its use by the RNAS , and the US Navy also

dbcisco
08-15-2009, 03:58 AM
Thanks for the link! Looks like the fuselage is constructed similar to the eflite. Better than the Sig all foam but i think the eflite has more wood in it. I might have to get one of these next time I get a coupon from Tower. Wings and tail feathers are pretty much the same quaility on most of these that I have (must say that the GWS TM has really robust wings though).
Thanks Wattman!

wattman
08-15-2009, 04:11 AM
Yes the 400 sized TM really has strong wings , but the Pico TM has the thin wings , the Sopwith Pup wings are MAYBE a bit stronger , maybe .
But the Sopwith Pup is SO much more better looking !

dbcisco
08-15-2009, 04:26 AM
But the Sopwith Pup is SO much more better looking !

Agreed

degreen60
08-18-2009, 06:48 PM
How does the Pup compare to the Eflite Nieuport 17? Are they about the same scale?

4everEngland
08-18-2009, 07:10 PM
I have both and they look to be roughly the same scale. I am a big fan of the Pup. It is a great flier and looks good in the air. I made some minor modifications to mine and it is probably my favorite plane to fly. It is an absolute joy!

wattman
08-18-2009, 09:44 PM
I have both and they look to be roughly the same scale. I am a big fan of the Pup. It is a great flier and looks good in the air. I made some minor modifications to mine and it is probably my favorite plane to fly. It is an absolute joy!

I know what your saying :D Its my favorite slowflyer :)

What were your mods to it ?

4everEngland
08-18-2009, 10:19 PM
I put better wheels on it and beefed up the landing gear a little bit. I also used a Suppo motor instead of the recommended one. Lastly, I reinforced to wings with fiber carbon rods. These modifications did not seem to affect its flying capabilities - it flies nice and slow. I have gotten more enjoyment out of this little plane than almost anything else I have ever flown. I can't say enough good things about it! The only negative is that it must be a very calm day before you can fly it outside, but that is the case with any foamy of its size.

dbcisco
08-18-2009, 10:23 PM
Darn you seducing me with yet another plane!! I want one!
But I don't have any room left on the wall... or money.:sad:

4everEngland
08-18-2009, 10:36 PM
Sad indeed! I know the feeling.........

degreen60
08-19-2009, 02:15 AM
Darn you seducing me with yet another plane!! I want one!
But I don't have any room left on the wall... or money.:sad:

My wife said you have all those planes handing from the ceiling(11 WW1) and you want another one? I told her no, I want several more.

dbcisco
08-19-2009, 02:40 AM
My wife said you have all those planes handing from the ceiling(11 WW1) and you want another one? I told her no, I want several more.

My wife would have just grabbed one of the guns hanging from the wall....:D

cocobear
08-19-2009, 05:38 PM
Am sooooooo glad that everyone is enjoying it. When I get a chance I will put up pix with ailerons added. Tons of yaw but a blast if you expect it. with the ailerons it will fly in 4 foot circles. To much yaw for the uninitiated so we decided not to.

DJ

wattman
08-20-2009, 03:25 PM
Ailerons on the Sopwith Pup , oh my yes , pics and videos please !

wattman
08-25-2009, 07:04 PM
Have been flying the Pup a lot of mornings EARLY , and then again , just before Sunset , with no wind , great flyer .
This AM , on the second battery , you would not think someone would hit a big silver pole with two flags on it , would you ?
Yep , sure did , and broke both wings on one side , sadly returned home , foam safe glue , and packing tape , back to the field , and check flight performed , full throttle loops , everything stays together , the Pup still lives , but shows the wear and tear , proudly .
Last night while flying , pulled a loop , dropped bombs , .................wait a minute , there are no bombs on it !
The wire landing gear fits up into a slot , and I had never fixed it in , in anyway , well it came out , wire , wheels , and wood struts , fell to the ground .
Continued flying , and landed in the grass just fine .
Now there is a small cardboard wedge holding them in , even when hitting a flagpole , such as this AM !

degreen60
08-25-2009, 07:25 PM
If there are no trees close a flag poll will do the job. LOL

4everEngland
08-25-2009, 07:26 PM
I crashed mine, too, pretty early on. In my eagerness to fly it I used poor judgement on a day when it was really too windy. Some foam-safe CA and packing tape made it airworthy again with no perceptable change in flight characteristics. I have been flying this Pup all summer long with no other "incidents" and she flies as good as ever.

wattman
08-25-2009, 07:57 PM
And , late Sunday which had been a windy day , we drove by the club airfield , and there was one flyer there , after a bit of plane talk , he went to his trailer connected to his truck , and dropped the trailer rear gate , OMG !
A 1/3 scale SE5a , and a 1/4 or 1/3 scale Sopwith pup , man are they big , even taken apart for transport , plus two big monoplanes .
Tuesday night he said he would be back , and yes , I am going there tonight , and I hope to see them fly ! I will try to get pictures .
Later

wattman
08-26-2009, 03:11 AM
Tonight was trainer night at the ERCMAC in Evansville In , and for the big 1 third scale SE5a with a 50cc gas engine was to be a maiden flight .
Pictured with my Electrifly Sopwith Pup , wow big difference .:eek:


http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u245/Planestrainstrucks/1%20third%20scale%20SE5a%20RC%20plane/Bigandthesmallrezd.jpg





http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u245/Planestrainstrucks/1%20third%20scale%20SE5a%20RC%20plane/BIGSE5a809REZd.jpg





http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u245/Planestrainstrucks/1%20third%20scale%20SE5a%20RC%20plane/BIGSE5aandSopwithPup809rezd.jpg

dbcisco
08-26-2009, 04:06 AM
The little ones look cuter and I can afford more of them. Besides, he doesn't even have any rigging on that big thing.:D

dbcisco
08-26-2009, 04:07 AM
50cc??? That is a Vespa engine!

wattman
08-26-2009, 12:50 PM
Maybe I got that engine size wrong , that does seem really big , sorry .
I did find a Modeltech SE5a still new in the box , which will be electric , when I get around to it , which still seems large to me .

dbcisco
08-26-2009, 07:54 PM
.50cc maybe?

TDisaster
08-26-2009, 08:59 PM
That sounds like a 50cc for a 1/3 scale.

A .10 2 stroke is about 1.7cc. So .50cc is about what the electrifly one would fly on :D.

dbcisco
08-26-2009, 09:08 PM
Dang! That is a huge motor! The plane didn't look that big. Must be the photo.

HalfaStrut
08-30-2009, 03:05 AM
Hi

I've been thinking about one of the pups, I have the se5a and it flys great, I'm building a 40' Pup from Areodrome RC and thought it would be fun to have one of these as well. Never have enough planes.
I was looking at the Se5a pic with the pup. looks a tad small for 3rd scale

Pat

wattman
08-30-2009, 04:42 PM
YOU are correct , I was at the field again yesterday , and it was there , and I asked again , and remembered better this time , it is a 1/4 scale SE5a , 80 inch wings , and it is a 50cc gas engine .

Hope that you post about your 40" Sopwith Pup with pics , I have been thinking a lot about a bigger Pup , the one you have up to the Balsa USA size ones , just do not know , so many planes that I would like !

Just watch this 1/3d scale Pup video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gIJBbLEDkk

I really like these takeoffs and flights and landings a lot !

HalfaStrut
08-30-2009, 05:20 PM
WOW

The first guy can really fly! I can only dream LOL
I know exactly what you mean so many planes so little time. I have seen both the 1/4 scale and the 1/6th scale BUSA Pups an they are really great looking models. The 1/6th 54" ws is the one I would build, just because of space constraints. Its only about $50 more than the 1/8th Aerodrome rc one I'm doing. I will post some pics if you'd like me to, as soon as the bones are taped together , almost there.

Thanks Pat

HalfaStrut
08-30-2009, 05:28 PM
108236HI
This is the proto type of the plane I'm trying to build
My avitar is the 1&1/2 strutter I'm hopeing to go up in on the 13th
Pat

wattman
08-30-2009, 07:46 PM
Oh yes photos are always enjoyed a lot :ws:
Wed night water boilers ? A live steamer also ?
The photo you posted of the PUP is perfect , just a perfect Pup , I can see why thats the one you are building , yes , a 1/6th size one would really work for me also , electric of course .

http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=108235&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1251649564

HalfaStrut
08-30-2009, 09:02 PM
HI

Absolutley... ELEC only way to fly.
Go to Model Solutions of Canada. com or .ca. and take a look at the elec syncro sound sys .My next build is going to be the SE5A on their U Tube link. I have just recieved the complete syncro sound system for the SE5A . start up/idel/flight and shut down, as well as vickers and lewis gun sound and a syncro strob attachment for the gun barrels. My SE5A is a 65" Dynaflite "FUN Scale". The motor is a Himax HC 50, a 60amp ESC and a 4 cell 4200mh lipo. The sound sys needs its own battery I can hardley wait. Just one small prob....must learn to fly much much better!
lol.
Oh!.. and finish the pup of course. Right now it comes first and it is a fun build.
Ill put up pics this wk I hope

Pat

HalfaStrut
09-01-2009, 11:13 PM
hi

These are some pics of the rr

wattman
09-02-2009, 02:00 AM
I just knew it :) Good looking layout HalfaStrut .

Even my trains are electric also
http://1stclass.mylargescale.com/dennispaulson/Darlington%20Railway%20streetcars/DR%20streetcar%20FlagStop%20resiz.JPG

wattman
09-02-2009, 02:04 AM
Following the link of the pics of the Sopwith Pup that you are modeling , to all of the real pics at Airliner.net , I was really amazed at how real the Electrifly Pup looks in flight , compared to the real Pup photos in flight , really close looking . :)

wattman
09-14-2009, 07:01 PM
Really racking upthe air miles on this Sopwith Pup , when there is no wind , in the early AM or late PM :ws:

With the suggusted 300 mah battery , I am charging and balancing them both , but flying time is 6 or 7 minutes . Last night I had the egg timer set for 7 minutes , and while way up , higher than it should have been , the esc took the motor off , easy to glide down of course , but I wish the flights were longer , and yes most of them are at half throttle . :<:

HalfaStrut
09-14-2009, 07:58 PM
HI

Nice trains, new we had something in common. My 40" pup will use a 3C 1800ma lipo with a park eflite 450 hope to get 10-12 min. The elecictrifly pup really flies THAT well. ? I may just pick one up till this one is ready. I'll try to post some pics of the bones.

Pat

degreen60
09-15-2009, 11:49 AM
Really racking upthe air miles on this Sopwith Pup , when there is no wind , in the early AM or late PM :ws:

With the suggusted 300 mah battery , I am charging and balancing them both , but flying time is 6 or 7 minutes . Last night I had the egg timer set for 7 minutes , and while way up , higher than it should have been , the esc took the motor off , easy to glide down of course , but I wish the flights were longer , and yes most of them are at half throttle . :<:

I am using a 900ma in the Eflite Nieuport. The planes seem about the same size. Maybe the Sopwith can use a larger battery.

wattman
09-15-2009, 03:38 PM
The battery area is ..............1/2 " x 1 1/16" x 3" , so it maybe ? , could hold a bigger battery , but anything more heavy will require weight added to the tail .
I had hoped that the 750mah battery that I use in the Pico TM would fit , but no way , unless I slung it under the plane at about the C of G location maybe . I will have to lookaround , or go external mount , perhaps , I do not wish to loose the great slow flyer abilitys of this Pup , I already have enough fly fast or stall and fall planes . ::o

cocobear
09-15-2009, 10:49 PM
A 2S 600 will fit. I use that combo outdoors sometimes.

TM4197
09-16-2009, 02:28 AM
Great job on the Pup! It looks super! I notice they pack about everything but the kitchen sink under the cowling...how was that to set up? I am thinking my big shakey fingers would never be able to work with that!! I'll take the park flyer anyday over the monster ! GREAT JOB!

bdelmo
12-13-2009, 10:28 PM
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winginnit
12-14-2009, 12:23 AM
Beautiful SE 5a! Thanks.

Tonight was trainer night at the ERCMAC in Evansville In , and for the big 1 third scale SE5a with a 50cc gas engine was to be a maiden flight .
Pictured with my Electrifly Sopwith Pup , wow big difference .:eek:



http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u245/Planestrainstrucks/1%20third%20scale%20SE5a%20RC%20plane/Bigandthesmallrezd.jpg





http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u245/Planestrainstrucks/1%20third%20scale%20SE5a%20RC%20plane/BIGSE5a809REZd.jpg





http://i170.photobucket.com/albums/u245/Planestrainstrucks/1%20third%20scale%20SE5a%20RC%20plane/BIGSE5aandSopwithPup809rezd.jpg

dbcisco
12-14-2009, 01:14 AM
bdelmo, I haven't tried the electrifly pup but I can vouch for the fact that the foam used by different manufacturers (EFlite, GWS, Wattage, SIG etc.) varies in softness, brittleness etc. Sorry to hear yours was so brittle. Maybe contact Greatplanes for replacement parts? At least complain to them.

bdelmo
12-14-2009, 02:05 PM
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George Hayes
02-21-2010, 08:23 PM
I have a Sopwith Pup("30)Foam(GreatPlanes)that needs a New Wing Set.Can anyone send me the outlines and dimentions so I can make them out of Foam Board.George!!

cocobear
02-22-2010, 03:05 PM
PM me.

Dave Johnson

George Hayes
02-22-2010, 03:16 PM
????Dave:Can you Help Me?

cocobear
02-22-2010, 03:19 PM
Probably. You need to PM me your E-mail. can you open a Dwg or dxf file?

George Hayes
02-22-2010, 03:48 PM
Dave:Dont know how to PM.My EMail is [email protected]:)

George Hayes
02-22-2010, 06:45 PM
Dave:I dont know how to PM but my EMail is [email protected] Hope that is sufficent.George