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solentlife
11-22-2017, 01:36 PM
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/nluther/Garage/Day%201%20garage%202_zpse1zidoup.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/nluther/media/Garage/Day%201%20garage%202_zpse1zidoup.jpg.html)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/nluther/Garage/Day%201%20garage%2010_zps352f6s2j.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/nluther/media/Garage/Day%201%20garage%2010_zps352f6s2j.jpg.html)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/nluther/Garage/Day%201%20garage%2012_zpsmfdds2xr.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/nluther/media/Garage/Day%201%20garage%2012_zpsmfdds2xr.jpg.html)

Its an area of 13m x 8m with workshop to be 12m x 7m on the second floor and a half-height storage 3rd floor same above that.

The ground floor will be a 2 car garage and third part as store.

They reckon 2 months and it will be finished ...

Nigel

solentlife
11-22-2017, 02:25 PM
Here's the project outline ...

Nigel

birdDog
11-22-2017, 03:33 PM
Priorities are in order!

Don Sims
11-23-2017, 12:57 AM
Going to be a nice setup.

firemanbill
11-23-2017, 04:00 AM
Sweet!

Brner
11-23-2017, 05:28 AM
ummmm....where's the stairway? Or is an elevator in the plans.....:)

Panther
11-23-2017, 07:44 AM
Nice.

solentlife
11-23-2017, 11:57 AM
The basic idea is a 3 car section garage. 2 places to left are cars, 3rd is closed in with 1.5x door to be a store. There will be internal stairway in there to the second floor. Second floor will be open plan ... with 'pull down loft' ladder into the roof space (half height 3rd floor).

Originally 3rd floor was going to be full height - but architect was not happy with garage being higher than my house !!

The base area is huge now I see the foundations dug out ! ....

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/nluther/Garage/Garage%20day%202%203_zpsixusumnx.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/nluther/media/Garage/Garage%20day%202%203_zpsixusumnx.jpg.html)

The ground dug out is being shifted over to build up a low section of ground to create my RC Car track on top of ...

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/nluther/Garage/Garage%20day%202%206_zpspsxarxfu.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/nluther/media/Garage/Garage%20day%202%206_zpspsxarxfu.jpg.html)

Its a big project ... but end results should be worth it !!

Nigel

solentlife
11-24-2017, 03:37 PM
Foundation stones in ...

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/nluther/Garage/Day%203%20garage%206_zpsroplcpkp.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/nluther/media/Garage/Day%203%20garage%206_zpsroplcpkp.jpg.html)

Decided that stones were good enough to order up two more truck loads to improve my road !!

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/nluther/Garage/Day%203%20garage%205_zpsiqsftp4r.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/nluther/media/Garage/Day%203%20garage%205_zpsiqsftp4r.jpg.html)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/nluther/Garage/Day%203%20garage%209_zpsdg2jp8hj.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/nluther/media/Garage/Day%203%20garage%209_zpsdg2jp8hj.jpg.html)

Nigel

birdDog
11-24-2017, 03:57 PM
Is that footing oversized or is it that I don't know a lot about foundations? That road deserves a street sign.

solentlife
11-24-2017, 04:47 PM
Myself and builders both think the footings are over sized .... but we are required by Latvian Law to follow the Architect Project which was approved.

Yes - I do have quite a long drive up to my house !

Nigel

Wildflyer
11-24-2017, 09:07 PM
A lot of factors play into the design of a foundation. Freeze depth, expected ability of the ground to support, X amount of weight per square area. local grade of concrete, rebar ETC.

I have designed several houses and garages and built more than I can remember.

But one thing is universal, what ever is on the approved drawings is the least way it can be built. You can exceed the plan but not reduce it.

Looks great Nigel, please keep the pictures coming.

What are you going to use the "store" area for? A little hobby shop?

Panther
11-24-2017, 10:08 PM
Did you ever get that tractor you talked about? Looks like you could use it now. :-)

solentlife
11-25-2017, 08:20 AM
The store - will be for firewood ..... to avoid the long walk to present store in dead of winter.

Tractor - yes I bought Belarus Excavator tractor which when lifting pontoons out of river - ran out of fuel - now having real trouble getting fuel through to bet her going !
Then we had freezing weather which froze the 'gasoline engine' on side which sound the big diesel over ....

Yes .... it has electric starter to start a small gasoline engine on the side ... looks about 200 - 300cc ..... once it starts - it 'throws' a gear to engage diesel engine to spin it over .... basically you keep the 'gas' engine going turning the diesel till that fires up and then stop the 'gas' engine.
Problem is when it froze - it froze the 'gas' engine .... so that added to air in the diesel system is giving me trouble.

Nigel

solentlife
11-25-2017, 08:59 AM
http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/nluther/Belarus%20tractor/Belarus%20Excavator%202_zps3898jxhg.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/nluther/media/Belarus%20tractor/Belarus%20Excavator%202_zps3898jxhg.jpg.html)

The gas engine starter :

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/nluther/Belarus%20tractor/Belarus%20Excavator%205_zpsnxyzalgd.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/nluther/media/Belarus%20tractor/Belarus%20Excavator%205_zpsnxyzalgd.jpg.html)

Nigel

Panther
11-25-2017, 11:43 AM
Ah, it must have a decent sized diesel motor then.
I know some bulldozers etc use that starting principal.
Maybe you need a Mowarm to keep the motor warm during winter.

solentlife
11-25-2017, 01:28 PM
The tractor weighs over 6 tons ..... no lightweight !!

Found the starter motor burnt out after last session ... so monday - its off to the 'tractor shop' ....

Nigel

solentlife
12-01-2017, 04:24 PM
Repairs to starter about 40 euros ... but new one 59 euros !! New one has proper solenoid as well and I can fit a push to make start button instead of the lever job I had.

So that needs fitting when weather improves.

Concrete has been poured and now we wait couple days for it to set and then its start actual building. Weather is awful of course - started snowing today.

Nigel

Panther
12-01-2017, 09:09 PM
Repairs to starter about 40 euros ... but new one 59 euros !! New one has proper solenoid as well and I can fit a push to make start button instead of the lever job I had.

So that needs fitting when weather improves.

Concrete has been poured and now we wait couple days for it to set and then its start actual building. Weather is awful of course - started snowing today.

Nigel

That is dirt cheap for a starter. Well worth it mate. :)

solentlife
12-07-2017, 10:09 AM
First test flight of my repaired DJI P3P .... decided to video the garage build so far ...

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Trying to beat weather closing in ...

Nigel

CHELLIE
12-08-2017, 03:00 AM
Nice Video Nigel :ws: OK, Now I see why your Garage footing is so Humongous :D Your Very Close to the Water, You need a Heavy Duty Foundation to prevent any Ground Liquefaction / Settling being that close to the water, here in So Calif in the high desert, the foundation only has to be 12" W X 12" Deep for a single story and 12" W X 24" Deep for a two story Structure. Keep up the Nice work :ws:

solentlife
12-08-2017, 09:22 AM
The ground in Ventspils where I live is terrible. Its a mix of sand and earth with no real 'meat' to it.

But my foundations are too big - the architect made mistake. They admitted it.

I asked for a block and wood construction to keep it simple and economic. Architect put in concrete slab floors for second floor ... when I saw the project - I asked why the slabs ?
This error meant that the footings / foundations were designed to take a high load from such construction.
I made them change the project to wood beams and floor along with aerobloc second / third floor walls. This cuts about 30 - 40% of the weight out, but she failed to amend the foundations. So I have foundations for a much heavier building than actually will be built.

Myself and builders joke - my garage will still be standing long after Ventspils town disappears !!

Cheers
Nigel

birdDog
12-08-2017, 12:36 PM
Add another level for storage! We always end up wanting more storage!

solentlife
12-08-2017, 02:50 PM
Add another level for storage! We always end up wanting more storage!

I'm at max height allowed now. I wanted a full height 3rd floor but had to agree to reduce it.

Nigel

CHELLIE
12-08-2017, 07:59 PM
Nigel, your Heavy Duty Foundation is a Blessing in Disguise :)

solentlife
12-09-2017, 08:49 PM
Sorry peeps .... forgot to update photos !!

So here is the concrete being poured :

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/nluther/Garage/th_Garage%2030%20Nov%202017%20concrete%201_zpsi37r 6pth.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/nluther/media/Garage/Garage%2030%20Nov%202017%20concrete%201_zpsi37r6pt h.jpg.html)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/nluther/Garage/th_Garage%2030%20Nov%202017%20concrete%202_zps0zk5 0px7.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/nluther/media/Garage/Garage%2030%20Nov%202017%20concrete%202_zps0zk50px 7.jpg.html)

THEY said they didn't need concrete pump ....

On we go - Fibo blocks ..

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/nluther/Garage/th_Garage%2008%20Dec%202017%201_zpsnkx473t2.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/nluther/media/Garage/Garage%2008%20Dec%202017%201_zpsnkx473t2.jpg.html)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/nluther/Garage/th_Garage%2008%20Dec%202017%203_zpsrhoqpdjw.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/nluther/media/Garage/Garage%2008%20Dec%202017%203_zpsrhoqpdjw.jpg.html)

Soil pipe in ready for 'services' ..

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/nluther/Garage/th_Garage%2008%20Dec%202017%204_zps0f3ialqc.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/nluther/media/Garage/Garage%2008%20Dec%202017%204_zps0f3ialqc.jpg.html)

Now settling before start on actual walls ... of course filling in needed ...

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/nluther/Garage/th_Garage%209%20Dec%20%201_zpswgmolcee.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/nluther/media/Garage/Garage%209%20Dec%20%201_zpswgmolcee.jpg.html)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/nluther/Garage/th_Garage%209%20Dec%20%205_zpsfs6dxqpi.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/nluther/media/Garage/Garage%209%20Dec%20%205_zpsfs6dxqpi.jpg.html)

Remember this ?

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/nluther/Garage/th_Day%201%20garage%201_zpsdiaphpua.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/nluther/media/Garage/Day%201%20garage%201_zpsdiaphpua.jpg.html)

!!

Cheers
Nigel

Wildflyer
12-10-2017, 08:01 PM
I notice you call them "Fibo blocks"

Is that a cement block with glass fibers in the mix?

I have an insatiable curiosity as to how things are made. seeing what happens in other country's is very interesting.

It looks like you have a very wide and strong footing, Is the ground in that area somewhat soft or wet? That is when I would have to make it that wide.

In the east coast area "Fibercrete" is a common material, not used as much on the west coast. At least not at the time I decided I was done with concrete.

I would love to build a workshop with these over sized foam blocks, that go together like Legos. You go up 4' insert rebar then pump concrete grout inside the blocks up to that level, repeat as many times as needed. Make an extremely strong wall.

The walls end up with an insulation rating of about 30. The heat from your power tools is almost enough to make it livable inside.

solentlife
12-10-2017, 08:34 PM
Fibo-Blocks ... yep - fibre embedded blocks. Very strong for the weight.

For the walls we will use Aerobloc .... very light and quick build.

Nigel

solentlife
12-10-2017, 08:44 PM
Last night we had snow ... 6" of it ...

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/nluther/Garage/snow%2010%20Dec%202017%204_zpscorlyllc.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/nluther/media/Garage/snow%2010%20Dec%202017%204_zpscorlyllc.jpg.html)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/nluther/Garage/snow%2010%20Dec%202017%202_zpscazthd71.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/nluther/media/Garage/snow%2010%20Dec%202017%202_zpscazthd71.jpg.html)

Nigel

Panther
12-10-2017, 09:50 PM
You're freezing and we're cooking....

solentlife
12-20-2017, 11:20 AM
Work carries on ... weather has 'warmed up' to +1 .. +2C ....

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/nluther/Garage/19%20Dec%202017%204_zps2msiyzgy.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/nluther/media/Garage/19%20Dec%202017%204_zps2msiyzgy.jpg.html)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/nluther/Garage/19%20Dec%202017%206_zpsc1crbgtq.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/nluther/media/Garage/19%20Dec%202017%206_zpsc1crbgtq.jpg.html)

Nigel

CHELLIE
12-20-2017, 02:08 PM
Work carries on ... weather has 'warmed up' to +1 .. +2C ....

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/nluther/Garage/19%20Dec%202017%204_zps2msiyzgy.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/nluther/media/Garage/19%20Dec%202017%204_zps2msiyzgy.jpg.html)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/nluther/Garage/19%20Dec%202017%206_zpsc1crbgtq.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/nluther/media/Garage/19%20Dec%202017%206_zpsc1crbgtq.jpg.html)

Nigel

Hi Nigel :ws: Question for you, Dont they use Steel Re bar with the Aerobloc on the Walls, or is the Aerobloc just Glued together with mortar and no steel Reinforcement, here in So Calif, we are required to use Steel Re Bar when building with Block and the steel Re Bar has to be in the foundation and cemented in place. we live in Earth Quake territory, so building have to be built really strong.

solentlife
12-20-2017, 03:03 PM
I have 200m of rebar as well ....

Rebar goes into the concrete foundation, then metal mesh in the adjoining blocks....

The upper above ground blocks only get rebar where structurally needed. We are not EQ area !!

The 'mortar' used here for Aeroc blocks is special for porous blocks ....

Nigel

solentlife
12-22-2017, 12:59 PM
View from drive entrance .... 22 Dec ...

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/nluther/Garage/22%20dec%202017%2010_zps5cixunei.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/nluther/media/Garage/22%20dec%202017%2010_zps5cixunei.jpg.html)

Taking shape .. 2x 3m wide garage door slots and a 1.2m wide store door slot ...

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/nluther/Garage/22%20dec%202017%2011_zpsgqgof6fv.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/nluther/media/Garage/22%20dec%202017%2011_zpsgqgof6fv.jpg.html)

Looking from house front door ..

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/nluther/Garage/22%20dec%202017%201_zpsas5bxhbu.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/nluther/media/Garage/22%20dec%202017%201_zpsas5bxhbu.jpg.html)

And here's my RC Car area - still waiting completion, but ground is so wet even tractors get stuck ....

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/nluther/Garage/22%20dec%202017%208_zpstdtx7u3m.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/nluther/media/Garage/22%20dec%202017%208_zpstdtx7u3m.jpg.html)

With tyres ready for layout !

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/nluther/Garage/22%20dec%202017%209_zpsx3rhgowh.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/nluther/media/Garage/22%20dec%202017%209_zpsx3rhgowh.jpg.html)

Nigel

solentlife
12-22-2017, 05:32 PM
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Its coming along .....

Nigel

Don Sims
12-22-2017, 11:11 PM
What are those blue skies? Where's the rain?
It's coming along!

solentlife
12-23-2017, 01:27 PM
We should have about 2ft of snow by now ... but its awful UK style weather here !!

We all blame the USA !! All the weather comes across Atlantic from you guys ... hits UK / N.Europe and then dumps the rest on US in Baltic !!
This time of year - we should be getting stuff from Siberia .... !

Only advantage with the wet - its compacting the sand in the 'infill' of foundations.

Nigel

jeholliday
12-23-2017, 07:36 PM
Yes, a good foundation is a blessing. Amazing what some codes allow and some don't. I built my shop according to code for where I live. I shouldn't have so many planes, kits and engines. If I could have had my way it would have been three times bigger.

solentlife
12-27-2017, 07:24 PM
Keeping you all updated ....

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Nigel

jeholliday
12-27-2017, 08:18 PM
Thanks for the tour of the neighborhood. Some mighty fine looking houses there.

birdDog
12-27-2017, 08:55 PM
Thanks for the tour of the neighborhood. Some mighty fine looking houses there.

Agreed! Looks like a very nice place to call home.

Brner
12-28-2017, 12:19 AM
I'd like to know how you got my wife's car over there?? :)

solentlife
12-28-2017, 08:49 AM
Agreed! Looks like a very nice place to call home.

It has some good points but there's a lot I miss ....

Wife's car ? What the tractor !!

Nigel

dahawk
12-29-2017, 02:06 AM
That’s going to be one nice garage and workshop . Better accommodate room for a bed, bath and kitchen on the upper floor so when you get thrown out of the house, you’ll have a complete man cave. Lol

Cheers!

Hawk

solentlife
01-05-2018, 04:15 PM
5 January and we have reached second floor .... so its now decide on 'bridging' over those 3.1m wide garage doors and also support for second floor.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/nluther/Garage/05%20Jan%202018%202_zpsfzji8fgq.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/nluther/media/Garage/05%20Jan%202018%202_zpsfzji8fgq.jpg.html)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/nluther/Garage/05%20Jan%202018%208_zpssjst1zbc.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/nluther/media/Garage/05%20Jan%202018%208_zpssjst1zbc.jpg.html)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/nluther/Garage/05%20Jan%202018%2011_zpswjjz4vhc.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/nluther/media/Garage/05%20Jan%202018%2011_zpswjjz4vhc.jpg.html)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/nluther/Garage/05%20Jan%202018%2012_zpswgoqydlw.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/nluther/media/Garage/05%20Jan%202018%2012_zpswgoqydlw.jpg.html)

Nigel

solentlife
01-06-2018, 01:55 PM
A quick tour ....

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Nigel

solentlife
01-12-2018, 02:30 PM
Carrying on ..... readying for second floor ....

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Nigel

jeholliday
01-12-2018, 04:24 PM
This is quite a project. Also you are good with that quad.

solentlife
01-12-2018, 05:01 PM
Now if you want to see Drone flying ... and this is FPV ... no LoS stuff !! No way a DJi like mine could do it - this needs serious no-lag FPV ... and instant response machine ...

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Nigel

jeholliday
01-13-2018, 12:13 AM
Awesome. Lost count of how many trains went by. Wonder how many quads he lost learning how to do it.

solentlife
01-25-2018, 07:03 PM
So yesterday we were 'drowned in snow' .....

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/nluther/Garage/24%20Jan%202018%20garage%205_zps0j8zq2eg.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/nluther/media/Garage/24%20Jan%202018%20garage%205_zps0j8zq2eg.jpg.html)

Metal floor support beams in ...

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/nluther/Garage/24%20Jan%202018%20garage%201_zpsodsky5u5.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/nluther/media/Garage/24%20Jan%202018%20garage%201_zpsodsky5u5.jpg.html)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/nluther/Garage/24%20Jan%202018%20garage%203_zpshdopmke2.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/nluther/media/Garage/24%20Jan%202018%20garage%203_zpshdopmke2.jpg.html)

then during the night temp went up .. rained ... snow washed away ....

Today putting wood floor beams in ...

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/nluther/Garage/25%20Jan%202018%202nd%20floor%20beams%205_zpsqgl9w lws.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/nluther/media/Garage/25%20Jan%202018%202nd%20floor%20beams%205_zpsqgl9w lws.jpg.html)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/nluther/Garage/25%20Jan%202018%202nd%20floor%20beams%208_zpsjfrs6 thv.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/nluther/media/Garage/25%20Jan%202018%202nd%20floor%20beams%208_zpsjfrs6 thv.jpg.html)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/nluther/Garage/25%20Jan%202018%202nd%20floor%20beams%201_zpsf0hgz xkv.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/nluther/media/Garage/25%20Jan%202018%202nd%20floor%20beams%201_zpsf0hgz xkv.jpg.html)

Where beams are longer than necessary - I've asked for the overlength to be left (4ft) and we will use that as a 'balcony' at front !! We'll revise the plans to give me a door to get out to it from the 'lounge' ...

Wife's starting to understand that I will be an occasional visitor to the house once all in place !!

Nigel

Panther
01-25-2018, 10:59 PM
Good idea Nigel and it will also keep rain off the garage doors and stop it coming in if they are open.

jeholliday
01-26-2018, 05:18 PM
Good idea about the beams. Now my wife wishes the city would have let me build the shop I wanted.

pizzano
01-26-2018, 05:55 PM
Autoclaved Aerated Concrete building materials are a very interesting concept that has been around Europe for +70 years. Has become popular in China, Saudi Arabia and parts of South America where higher density urban communities have cropped up.

Due to it's light weight, compressive strength, fire retardant, insulation and sound buffering properties, AAC has found to be construction cost effective and environmentally friendly.

ACC block materials have been tested here in the US for more than 20yrs. But has not been approved for structural building applications (outside of sound/screen walls) due to several factors. One of which is the "R-Value" and "Fatigue & Stress" criteria required by our Building Codes.
Although, being found to have great insulation qualities, thermal moisture reduces it's "load capacity", since it not only absorbs but also dissipates moisture. This effect changes (fluctuates) the Fatigue and Stress values which must stay constant under our current Code requirements.

That problem can be remedied with additional structural support like (Re-Bar and block filled cell applications). However, that really defeats the whole AAC purpose, economy and easy of construction.....might as well construct brick/cinder block.

Out in Arizona, a few years back, a test plot was constructed, with AAC. Three homes, two single story, one two story. Foundations for the two SS units were conventional slab and steel mesh, no crawl spaces, stem walls or deepened footings. The two story used what is common in seismic zones called "post tension"......basically cable hinged rockers installed throughout the slab and attached to the lower wall reinforcement.

Anyway, I believe the test was to have a life span of 5yrs and monitored periodically once a year for another 5yrs. I have not followed the project for awhile, but at the 5th year, the results showed the AAC material actually got stronger in that dry hot climate, no stress fractures, angle separations, stucco pealing, load separation or settlement dispersion. In fact, once "D-load" testing was completed, the State started permitting AAC use in the construction of ornamental block walls around subdivisions.

If one cares to understand why home building construction in the US Southwest is so darn expensive (outside of the land prices).......check out the attached link........it will most likely bore you, but explain what we have to go through to construct a house here in Southern Calif.....:

https://www.fema.gov/media-library-data/20130726-1535-20490-7368/fema232.pdf

solentlife
01-26-2018, 08:10 PM
Good idea about the beams. Now my wife wishes the city would have let me build the shop I wanted.

The beams are two per line ... with bolted joint in middle over the metal I beam. Because the timber mill has set length cutting beds for the logs, I had to go next length up.
Each beam is 4.8m long and 100 x 200mm section. The overhang each wall is 1.10m ... the rear will be cut off and used to create the verticals for a low balcony rail at front - where the beam overhang will remain.

Already pals are talking about 'cocktails' out on the balcony !!

I did consider moving the beam joints along and pushing further out at front - but then I would have to start looking at columns to support the balcony. With only 1.10m - its self supporting.

Of course the question of where to put the door ... and I said - as long as it doesn't affect my bar and lounge !! AND is only needed suitable size for me to be able to walk out with beer in hand !!

You can probably imagine - I'm getting rather excited about this ...

Its costing more than I planned - but WOW !!

This is the view from my upstairs Office at home and you see the beams being joined before moved to final position for the garage part - end store section as you see has two metal I beams due to stairs etc.

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/nluther/Garage/Second%20floor/Setting%20up%20floor%20joists%2026%20Jan%202018%20 3_zpsfce2k5lo.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/nluther/media/Garage/Second%20floor/Setting%20up%20floor%20joists%2026%20Jan%202018%20 3_zpsfce2k5lo.jpg.html)

Nigel

solentlife
01-29-2018, 04:37 PM
Keeping all up to date with current situation ... all filmed using my DJI P3P ....

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Judging by those beams - I could put the cars up there as well !!

Nigel

solentlife
02-01-2018, 04:17 PM
Starting on second floor walls ....

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/nluther/Garage/Second%20floor/01%20feb%202018%202_zpsirniwekk.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/nluther/media/Garage/Second%20floor/01%20feb%202018%202_zpsirniwekk.jpg.html)

Nigel

solentlife
02-03-2018, 06:44 PM
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Nigel

jeholliday
02-03-2018, 09:51 PM
Awe some footage of your country side. Watching those masons reminds me when I kept an older gent supplied with mud and block as we laid up walls with cinder block.

solentlife
02-07-2018, 03:52 PM
Guys continue even though snow is falling heavily !!

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Crazy !

Nigel

jeholliday
02-07-2018, 04:42 PM
Those guys are nuts. Of course last Sunday after Church the snow storm passed and I scooped the drive and porch off plus a path for the dogs .

solentlife
02-07-2018, 05:58 PM
My Snow blower has been out 3x today !!

Nigel

solentlife
02-09-2018, 12:36 PM
9th Feb update ...

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Nigel

jeholliday
02-09-2018, 05:05 PM
Hey, I'm up for adoption when that is finished. ha ha ha. Looks a lor better with sun shine.

CHELLIE
03-05-2018, 12:05 PM
The Garage is looking Great, Keep up the nice work, Chellie

solentlife
03-05-2018, 12:09 PM
Work came to a stop with plummeting temps ... but restarted today ...

Updates to follow !

Like every thing to do with builders - original price to do has gone out the window and as we all know will cost me far more !

Nigel

solentlife
03-05-2018, 03:27 PM
Here you are Chellie ... for you darling ... ;)

back at it again :

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Nigel

jeholliday
03-05-2018, 09:59 PM
That's going to be awesome when done.

Panther
03-08-2018, 07:40 AM
I can't figure out how to post videos on here Nigel but it looks like you don't have a problem. I know Vimeo doesn't work but I can't even get youtube videos here. What do you do that I don't???? Cranky Panther

solentlife
03-08-2018, 09:10 AM
I can't figure out how to post videos on here Nigel but it looks like you don't have a problem. I know Vimeo doesn't work but I can't even get youtube videos here. What do you do that I don't???? Cranky Panther

WF has a quirky system !!

Lets say I want to show this video :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyNlEtJMQI4

If I just do the link as most forums accept - it will not work here. Second - the TAB in the message menu bar - I find does not work well at all.

So I type my tags manually.

To show that video - you need to get rid of the hyper link part ... "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v="

First I type : youtube surrounded by the []
Then I paste the youtube link : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyNlEtJMQI4
Delete the hyper link part leaving only the : KyNlEtJMQI4
Last I type /youtube with [] around it ... important to have the / as that is the closing mark.

Hope that helps ?

Nigel

Panther
03-08-2018, 09:30 AM
I will let you know mate. I will go try it now! LOL

100% mate. Your blood is worth bottling. Thank you. I tried every which way but no go. I have noted this in a Open Office Document so I won't forget.
Cheers
P

solentlife
03-08-2018, 10:16 AM
I will let you know mate. I will go try it now! LOL

100% mate. Your blood is worth bottling. Thank you. I tried every which way but no go. I have noted this in a Open Office Document so I won't forget.
Cheers
P

I am sure others have a quicker way - but it works for me and after a while - it gets easy and quick ...

Another trick ... say you want to show a picture of the web - ie a Hobby King item ...

Right click on the item picture and select "Copy Image address"

Now back to here and right click - paste the copy ...

It has to be a web based picture ... your own will not work unless hosted.

The paste if left as is will provide a small picture ..

https://hobbyking.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/565x414/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/legacy/catalog/33990.jpg

But if you want a larger so to show detail - All you do is type img with the [] around it in front of the link address .. and then /img with [] around that after the link address ... (no spaces)

https://hobbyking.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/565x414/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/legacy/catalog/33990.jpg

OK ..

Nigel

Panther
03-08-2018, 10:39 PM
Excellent Nigel. I will add that detail to my file. Thank you.

solentlife
03-10-2018, 02:44 PM
Second floor walls done ... wait wood for second floor level and then start on the 1/2 height 3rd floor storage ...

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Nigel

Panther
03-10-2018, 10:26 PM
Won't take long now mate. Your weather should be improving. It must be like living inside a fridge there. :eek:

solentlife
04-08-2018, 07:26 PM
Thought it time to update .... work is slow at moment .... but its coming on ...

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Nigel

Panther
04-08-2018, 10:15 PM
Gee Nigel, you will be able to move in shortly then you can use the house as a hobby shack..:D

jeholliday
04-08-2018, 11:54 PM
You are so lucky. Not much longer it looks like.

solentlife
04-09-2018, 09:00 AM
Gee Nigel, you will be able to move in shortly then you can use the house as a hobby shack..:D

Then ? One of the reasons for the build is to stop using the house as a Hobby Shack !!

Project has slowed a bit due to the inevitable cost over-runs .... but it will be be completed this summer.

Nigel

CHELLIE
04-11-2018, 03:31 AM
The Garage is Looking Great Nigel :$ , BTW, I want my Garage upstairs Condo to be connected to the Balcony :D :D :D LOL

solentlife
04-12-2018, 10:28 AM
Framing up for 2nd floor ceiling / 3rd floor ...

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/nluther/Garage/Garage%20update%2012%20apr%202018%207_zpsqi3d82hc. jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/nluther/media/Garage/Garage%20update%2012%20apr%202018%207_zpsqi3d82hc. jpg.html)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/nluther/Garage/Garage%20update%2012%20apr%202018%209_zpsjgwv79lr. jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/nluther/media/Garage/Garage%20update%2012%20apr%202018%209_zpsjgwv79lr. jpg.html)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/nluther/Garage/Garage%20update%2012%20apr%202018%2010_zpsrlcidm01 .jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/nluther/media/Garage/Garage%20update%2012%20apr%202018%2010_zpsrlcidm01 .jpg.html)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/nluther/Garage/Garage%20update%2012%20apr%202018%2011_zpsdahnvgog .jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/nluther/media/Garage/Garage%20update%2012%20apr%202018%2011_zpsdahnvgog .jpg.html)

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/nluther/Garage/Garage%20update%2012%20apr%202018%2014_zpsqyvwyot1 .jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/nluther/media/Garage/Garage%20update%2012%20apr%202018%2014_zpsqyvwyot1 .jpg.html)

Just looking fwd to Summer and sitting on my Workshop balcony !!

Nigel

solentlife
04-12-2018, 10:29 AM
The Garage is Looking Great Nigel :$ , BTW, I want Part my Garage upstairs Condo to be connected to the Balcony :D :D :D LOL

You are more than welcome to come sip Pina Colada's on my balcony !!

Nigel

solentlife
04-13-2018, 01:05 PM
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Nigel

Panther
04-13-2018, 11:02 PM
wooo getting close to those trees there! LOL

solentlife
04-14-2018, 11:19 AM
wooo getting close to those trees there! LOL

The drone or the workshop ?

Yes both !

The chainsaw is ready for action ... we've been removing branches as we go up ......

Nigel

jeholliday
04-14-2018, 06:37 PM
Yes those trees would not provide much shade.

Panther
04-14-2018, 10:15 PM
My mates drone flew away yesterday. Suspect the RX but he had forgotten to set failsafe. No RSSI
It was a nice Glass and alloy frame with $70 motors (each) and a Pixhawk. We chased it in the car but it just got too high and out of sight.

solentlife
04-14-2018, 10:40 PM
My mates drone flew away yesterday. Suspect the RX but he had forgotten to set failsafe. No RSSI
It was a nice Glass and alloy frame with $70 motors (each) and a Pixhawk. We chased it in the car but it just got too high and out of sight.

My sympathy .... when my $600 DJI went into the river .... UGH !!

Nigel

solentlife
05-08-2018, 06:19 PM
About time for update ....

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along with the RC car track area starting to be prepared ...

Nigel

dahawk
05-08-2018, 08:39 PM
Coming along nicely. Your garage/ hobby room/ man cave / penthouse patio will be awesome

solentlife
05-08-2018, 09:31 PM
Coming along nicely. Your garage/ hobby room/ man cave / penthouse patio will be awesome

With view of the Car Track as well ! :D

Nigel

jeholliday
05-09-2018, 07:23 PM
You are so lucky, but I guess you have worked hard for this. My self I would have a control line circle instead of a car track. But, to each his own.

solentlife
05-09-2018, 08:03 PM
You are so lucky, but I guess you have worked hard for this. My self I would have a control line circle instead of a car track. But, to each his own.

As a kid with my Brothers - we did C/L on the front lawn of house we grew up in ... but I was never very good at it.

I started RC actually because my Brothers being older went off on their ways working and I was left with no helper for C/L.

Nigel

jeholliday
05-09-2018, 08:31 PM
That is why way back then I made a stooge. Never thought of producing it.

solentlife
05-10-2018, 08:28 AM
I did consider a 'line' release ... but never got round to it ... RC was more fun ...

Cheers
Nigel

CHELLIE
06-16-2018, 02:28 AM
Is The Garage done Yet :ws: When Can I move in :D :D :D LOL

Panther
06-16-2018, 06:39 AM
Isn't Hesperia way in the high country Chellie?

CHELLIE
06-16-2018, 07:17 AM
Isn't Hesperia way in the high country Chellie?


Yes it is :) But i need to get Away from all of my Rout y Family Members :) LOL

solentlife
06-16-2018, 08:28 AM
Is The Garage done Yet :ws: When Can I move in :D :D :D LOL

My work has taken up my time and travel ...

Its at stage to have roof done ... then onto floors. Delayed till I can sit down and argue out the roof details.

Cheers
Nigel

Panther
06-16-2018, 09:47 AM
Yes it is :) But i need to get Away from all of my Rout y Family Members :) LOL

Yep, understand that.. LOL

There is a guy I converse with on RCG in the Skywalker X5 thread that lives there too. (swch) He flies by himself on his property.

Now you can have your thread back Nigel.... :D

jeholliday
06-16-2018, 03:38 PM
Nothing like work and life interfering with things.


I detest these key boards.

solentlife
09-04-2018, 04:35 PM
Finally got started again ... putting the roof on ...

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Decided to leave top floor open so air can circulate when models stored there ...

Nigel

solentlife
09-05-2018, 01:47 PM
Fair trucking along ...

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Nigel

solentlife
09-06-2018, 04:08 PM
update today …

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Nigel

solentlife
09-11-2018, 01:24 PM
Roof going on ...

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Concrete floors and ramps ...

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Nigel

jeholliday
09-11-2018, 08:06 PM
Doesn't look like too much longer before move in day. You are so lucky.

solentlife
09-11-2018, 09:08 PM
Jobs left to do :

Clad outside with PenoPlast insulation and then paint.. to match the house.

Fit windows and doors.

Install floors

Finally furniture. That's the interesting part because most will be based on kitchen units to provide the base carcasses. Worktops will be wider of course and central units will be double edged.

All in all still a sizeable chunk of cash to go ... and its all without credit / loans. I have been striving to stay out of asking for credit.

I work hard and I regard this as my reward !!

Nigel

Panther
09-11-2018, 11:38 PM
Must have cost as much as a house Nigel?
I have to do a shed in the future too but it should only take a couple of weeks as it will be steel.
Probably have a mezzazine floor in it. Something similar to this (https://totalspan.com.au/barns/heritage-barns) I want to put a scissor hoist in it too. I will also add an extra bay to it.

I do like your roofing. I haven't seen anything like that before.

https://www.wattflyer.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=186950&d=1536702005

solentlife
09-12-2018, 11:21 AM
Problem here is sheds like that have to be imported and that ramps up the costs.

I also have to make sure I have building that is warm enough in the -30C winters to not freeze my Laser machine etc. I plan year round working in that model area AND year round party in the lounge !!

Of course when things get a bit difficult with 'her indoors' - I can pull out the divan bed and stay there !!

The roof is basically corrugated sheet that mimics ceramic tiles ... quick and easy to fix.

Nigel

jeholliday
09-12-2018, 04:36 PM
Do you need a full time care taker of the facilities? Ha Ha. I too wanted and looked at a metal structure for my shop. The city said no to it. It would have had a concrete floor. Also the one I looked at had allowed floor space and less cost. I also pointed out to them that it was fire proof. Guess I didn't have enough money, really didn't offer to fill his back pocket to approve the permit.

solentlife
09-12-2018, 04:56 PM
Do you need a full time care taker of the facilities? Ha Ha. I too wanted and looked at a metal structure for my shop. The city said no to it. It would have had a concrete floor. Also the one I looked at had allowed floor space and less cost. I also pointed out to them that it was fire proof. Guess I didn't have enough money, really didn't offer to fill his back pocket to approve the permit.

Its hard to describe the way I can live here but basically its privileged. I actually do not agree with it as it is unfair on others.

Being a person who came here in their first days of independence from Soviet yoke - I was part of the western influx. My partner for 5 years was major shareholder in the biggest employer in the town. Today I am still close friend with him. Having stayed unlike many who left years ago - I have been rewarded with being able to do 'things' that others would have difficulty. I can visit town council members without appointment, even the Chief Exec as example. Literally anything I ask for is agreed. But over the near 25 years of being here - they have learnt that I am a 'normal' person with no silly ideas !!

I know I am still a 'person of interest' here ... as I am reminded when talking to various ....

Things like ... guys mentioned to me that it would be good if we could have a proper competition RC car track ... but trouble was Council guy to talk to was not available and usual time to get first meeting was 1 - 2 months if lucky. I made one call ... and next day we met the Council C. Exec who instructed Council member to action.
If anyone was to expect 'interest' from me here .... they would not receive a single penny from me.

Please believe me .. I do not post this as saying I'm a great person .. far from it. Its just that I have 'landed' in a spot that suits and I have become a 'celebrity' in a place that really is more like a village.

Nigel

Panther
09-12-2018, 10:56 PM
As you say. You have a envied position in the local society. I wouldn't be going anywhere. I was also lucky in my career.

Nigel, I guess we are lucky with our sheds here from the sound of things. We have about 10 metal shed companies that I can think of, eg Southern Cross Sheds, Titan etc etc
I bought a Titan last time but looking further afield this time. Great choices and they design exactly what you want, whatever size you want. Dearest part is the concrete. The sheds are cheap for their size and last forever.
They even have laminated sheets with insulation between them if you want to spend the extra money. Great for the roofs. Keeps the shed cooler.
-30 degrees I can't even imagine. My property has never even had a frost in the 15 years we have been here nor when the people before us owned it for the same length of time. It has got down to 1 or 2 degrees celcius at the very worst. I like it that way.

solentlife
09-13-2018, 08:18 AM
One other point as well ... the usual garage bay is small ! I measured my van so that the bays are good enough to take my van with doors open ! Doing such meant that it had to be individually designed for the extra width etc.

It has had its problems, the length of beams is greater than normal and therefore purpose cut metal beams were needed. Luckily pal of mine is Sales Manager for local metal works .. so he organised source and cutting to fit.
Overall the building is stronger than my house ! and we joke its there for 1000 years !

Tomorrow I shall be able to drive my car in ... and test the van goes in !!

Once all is in place and finished ... I will be constructing a small 'crane' to lift gear up to the second floor ... well that's an idea amongst all the others !

Nigel

Panther
09-13-2018, 11:27 AM
OK Now you must hover your P3 back a bit then drive your van in so you capture it all. :)

solentlife
09-13-2018, 12:38 PM
OK Now you must hover your P3 back a bit then drive your van in so you capture it all. :)

The Soloshot 3 can do it !! Mount the tag on the van and track it in. Of course it will lose tracking GPS once it gets inside ... but jobs done then.

Nigel

Panther
09-13-2018, 10:43 PM
sounds like a plan . :D:D

Don Sims
09-13-2018, 11:51 PM
The place is really looking good!

solentlife
09-14-2018, 11:14 AM
The big day ... cars in !!

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Makes me feel a real event has occurred ...

Nigel

Rabbitcreekok
09-14-2018, 04:34 PM
Isn't it great when a plan comes together. Now just don't hit one of the concrete block support columns.

solentlife
09-14-2018, 07:32 PM
I must admit that crossed my mind as well ... but builders reckon there's iron bar running through that centre one.

They also reckoned I would have to really smash into one to do any damage ... and they doubt it would actually break the column.

Lets just say - I don't intend to test it !!!

Nigel

jeholliday
09-15-2018, 06:15 PM
That is great that you measured right. Looks like enough room for a motocycle if you have one.

Panther
09-15-2018, 10:31 PM
I noticed that as you drove the van in the roof got close at the back. If you drove in too fast it could bounce up and touch the door arch. So don't drive in when you are in a bad mood. :)

solentlife
09-16-2018, 11:31 AM
I noticed that as you drove the van in the roof got close at the back. If you drove in too fast it could bounce up and touch the door arch. So don't drive in when you are in a bad mood. :)

I'll try not to talk to wife before driving in !

The van has a curve to its front 1/3rd of roof and I tried to view with front wheels on the apex to have it maximum height. I agree that it seems closer at rear ... but maybe the angle of view where the both cameras are lower than the roof may give impression of closer ?

But yes - point taken ... and anyway with the 'precious' load of my models in her - I don't think I will be gunning it in !!

Nigel

Wildflyer
09-16-2018, 07:11 PM
I noticed that as you drove the van in the roof got close at the back. If you drove in too fast it could bounce up and touch the door arch. So don't drive in when you are in a bad mood. :)


An apron of crushed rock from the concrete out will smooth the entry.


Sounds like your van is a small diesel, I bet it makes great mileage per gallon.


What type of floor are you going to use upstairs?

solentlife
09-16-2018, 07:52 PM
No need for addition to the apron ... the gap is more than enough ...

The van is a 2.8ltr Turbo Diesel and goes like a rocket !! Consumption is real budget ! Unlike the Volvo I have ... XC70 2.4ltr turbo gasoline with T5 tuning ... on a long run she's good but in town it drinks it. But boy is she fun on those country dirt roads and when the BMW boys get alongside at the lights ... they get a shock when she takes off ...

Nigel

solentlife
09-16-2018, 07:55 PM
Upstairs floors will be base OSB then laminate on top. Of course there will be insulation between garage ceiling and workshop floor ... and insulation in the roof space ...

There will be no full ceiling 2 to 3rd floor - that will stay mostly open to allow me to access models etc. up there .. and allow air to flow better ... Only the bar area will have ceiling ..

Nigel

solentlife
09-18-2018, 05:23 PM
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Nigel

Rabbitcreekok
09-18-2018, 05:38 PM
That is a lot of firewood. I assume that you heat with wood all winter. And since winter is quickly coming, the need for firewood increases. Do you cut your own firewood or purchase it?

solentlife
09-18-2018, 08:17 PM
We have a 16KW glass fronted cast iron wood fire in the kitchen that has a hot air chamber above it. A fan system upstairs draws the hot air up and out via vents to the second floor rooms. The ground floor gets its heat from that fire and the wall behind it heats the guest room next to it. The large banquet room has an open fire if needed.

We also have gas central heating that is left on 'safety' so it fires up when temp drops to 0C outside .. and keeps house at 16C and above to avoid any freezing of pipes. Leaving it on that makes the system extremely economic and in fact because the house is based on double thickness wood walls .. stays mice and warm. We rarely actually switch the gas system on to actually heat the place. The fires have heat transfer walls at their backs to heat other rooms adjacent.

We use about 20 - 22cu.m of wood on average per winter (4 small truck loads we buy in) and we also supplement from the wood collected after strong winds etc. around the estate. This year we have already collected far more than usual .. over 5 cu.m because of thinning out the brush and young trees along the borders.
The thin stuff, 40mm and less has been fed to my shredder and that is now over 5 tons !! Not quite sure what to do with all that ...

Cheers
Nigel

Wildflyer
09-19-2018, 02:56 AM
Looks like rigid foam insulation, that is great. Having outside the cement block makes the block act as a heat reservoir. Very good way to do it.

I wish I had a larger shop, I have a cabinet shop stuffed into a 2 car garage, With no way to expand.

Rabbitcreekok
09-19-2018, 07:01 AM
The stuff you have shredded will compost into soil. I have used chipped wood to fill holes around my place and within a year or so, it is soil, not wood chips.

solentlife
09-19-2018, 08:37 AM
That has crossed my mind as well ... the chips are about 1/2" by 1/2" ... some a little bigger ...

We can use them in the fires as well ... my workshop will have a wood burner stove with a horizontal steel flue pipe running along the back wall before exiting. No point in wasting that heat !!

Nigel

Rabbitcreekok
09-19-2018, 05:31 PM
You need to be careful about the long horizontal run inside the building. As the smoke cools during that run, creosote will form on the inside of the flue and could cause a fire. Creosote fires can be devastating, although you have a basic building that will not burn, it could cause a lot of damage.

solentlife
09-19-2018, 08:42 PM
Agreed ....

I have a specialist who installs the wood fires - he built our main one in the house and its distribution system. All will be sorted with his advice.

There will be frost protect electrics anyway - to stop my Laser cutter from freezing ... along with other gear ... and I have a large AC / Heater unit ready to be fitted as well ...

Nigel

Panther
09-20-2018, 01:09 AM
When you see those fellas working on that building you just realize how big it is!

solentlife
09-20-2018, 10:19 AM
When you see those fellas working on that building you just realize how big it is!

Yep .. very true.

Wife thinks I'm crazy !!

Nigel

solentlife
09-21-2018, 05:54 PM
Getting there ...

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Nigel

Rabbitcreekok
09-21-2018, 10:15 PM
Looking really good, Nigel. Will you have it dried in and able to be heated before the winter sets in? Then you can continue to work on the inside in the cold when the river freezes.

Panther
09-21-2018, 10:38 PM
Good vids Nigel. Thanks for the updates. Interesting seeing how things are done there.

Rabbitcreekok
09-21-2018, 11:11 PM
It is different watching the different ways construction is done in different areas. Here OSHA would be all over that scaffolding as being unsafe. I have seen scaffolding in photos from Asia that is made of bamboo that I would not even stand near and this stuff went up many stories. No OSHA there.


For you guys not from the USA, OSHA stands for Occupational Safety and Health Administration.

solentlife
09-22-2018, 10:01 AM
I've spent many trips in China ... all over Asia ... and I can tell you that the Bamboo scaffolding I've seen is strong and more than enough for the job.
Remember that in Asia - they even used same to construct temporary railway bridges etc. ..... they didn't fail.

I've seen 'western metal' approved scaffolding fail .. in fact in UK - I had a set fail and I landed on my back in the **** ...

I must admit I was apprehensive about the woodwork my guys are using - problem was all the rental scaffolding is out on jobs as others try to get work done before the weather turns.

As to OSHA .. and its equivalents in many countries I have work ... its OK but also can create its own problems. The idea is of course good, but implementation / rules are often made by idiots or those with commercial interest. Sorry to be blunt ... but its what I see so often.

Nigel

Rabbitcreekok
09-22-2018, 05:52 PM
Don't misunderstand my comment, Nigel. I certainly an not a fan of OSHA. I am sure that the scaffold erected by your guys is functional or they would not be up on it. I am sure they don't have a death wish. It was just my tongue in cheek of poking fun at OSHA.


The bamboo scaffolding just looks scary to me. It may be stronger than steel but it just looks scary.

solentlife
09-22-2018, 06:20 PM
Not meaning to be contentious .... as a Brit I am aware of the Burma Railway and the PoW's forced to build the infamous railway. Many of the structures were bamboo or timber based and only replaced many years later.

When we look at many of the countries that use 'natural' products instead of what we in the west would choose .... often there is a very good reason for them to use such - availability ......

When you see how they construct as well - you will see they are not just throwing together a structure ... they use established techniques.

I have been amazed how high they will go with such as well.....

Ok - back to my guys ... I am sure they contravened H&SE rules as Latvia is part of the over bureaucratic EU ensemble ..... EU is fast approaching the USA levels of **** ....

Nigel

solentlife
09-28-2018, 04:50 PM
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Nigel

CHELLIE
10-02-2018, 08:25 AM
It is different watching the different ways construction is done in different areas. Here OSHA would be all over that scaffolding as being unsafe. I have seen scaffolding in photos from Asia that is made of bamboo that I would not even stand near and this stuff went up many stories. No OSHA there.


For you guys not from the USA, OSHA stands for Occupational Safety and Health Administration.


Bamboo Scaffolding is stronger than steel, Bamboo Scaffolding will withstand a Hurricane if tied and secured right.


https://engineering.purdue.edu/MSE/aboutus/gotmaterials/Buildings/schlotman.html


Bamboo scaffolding is being used in China and Hong Kong instead of steel for several reasons. Bamboo actually has a greater tensile strength than steel. It is also much cheaper to use, and completely environmentally friendly.

CHELLIE
10-02-2018, 08:30 AM
Looks Great Nigel, I am getting ready to move in :) LOL

CHELLIE
10-02-2018, 08:37 AM
Yep .. very true.

Wife thinks I'm crazy !!

Nigel


I Think Your Wife is RIGHT Nigel :D :D :D LOL, I know I am a Little Crazy in a Nice way :eek:

solentlife
10-02-2018, 08:45 AM
Here's the general idea .... still to draw up furniture ...

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y245/nluther/Garage/3%20floors_zpsccez1hmz.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/nluther/media/Garage/3%20floors_zpsccez1hmz.jpg.html)

Cars and store at the ground ... model workshop and bar on the second ... storage for models etc. on third.

Having used before for a 'shed workshop' when I lived in UK ... I plan to use kitchen furniture as the base units. There will be T benches as well to allow 270 deg access to models when needed .. tables that can be raised into the overhead beams out of the way to open up floor space ... model railway and slot car on two raisable tables ..

My house at present has the second floor filled with models and my gear .. Laser ... 3D printer .... drill presses ..... auto foam cutter .... etc. It will all move out to the new place and house will then be a living area instead of Model workshop !!



Nigel

Rabbitcreekok
10-03-2018, 05:20 AM
When you say store, what do you mean? An RC store, a drone store or some other kind of store?

solentlife
10-03-2018, 07:27 AM
When you say store, what do you mean? An RC store, a drone store or some other kind of store?

We have wood burning fire as main heating system in the house and its a long walk to the barn in winter !! So idea is to have a stock nearer the house. That's intention at moment .. but who knows ?

The door is wider than normal to enter based on large wheelbarrow !!

Nigel

Rabbitcreekok
10-03-2018, 05:54 PM
I see now, a place to store firewood. Sounds like a great idea.