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RobT 05-08-2012 03:01 AM

Hacker A50 12L [email protected] Vs. Motrofly 4325-380
 
I am considering these for a 71" slick. If anyone can tell me their real life experience with the two I would appreciate it. (I would not mind the theory either if you are going to get into comparing them based on the numbers.

Thank you,

Rob

Larry3215 05-08-2012 03:39 AM

You might not find anyone with first hand experience with both motors. Guys who buy Hackers tend to stick with the better quality stuff and guys who by Motrofly tend to not want to spend the bucks on the good stuff.

If you want some comments on the specs, then Id suggest you post the specs for both motors. If people have to spend the time to go off looking for stuff, they are less likely to take the time to respond.

Without looking at the specs I can tell you that the hacker will be more efficient and better made and have a better warranty as well as being more expensive. For anything else, Id need to see the specs.

JetPlaneFlyer 05-08-2012 07:55 AM

Motrolfly have an excellent reputation within the 3D community being favoured above any other brand by many top 3D flyers.. Their reputation for reliability is better than Hacker if anything, certainly not a 'cheap and chearful' option.
IMHO they are both good motors but what Motrolfly has in it's favour in the USA is outstanding customer service from Ken at Subsonic. He will even custom wind to any kv you want and supplies specially customised lightweight versions of some of the motors.

The Motrolfly DM2820-750 I use is an absolute beast considering it's modest size (150g). It pulls 1kw and delivers most of that power to the prop with decent efficiency which is remarkable considering how hard it's being driven. It spins a 14x7 prop at 8800PRM and gives nearly 8lb of static thrust!

Steve

RobT 05-08-2012 01:13 PM

specifications
 
Larry, Here is the info I can find on the web:

Motrofly

MOTROLFLY DM-4325 Brushless motor series are for RC Airplanes 8 to 16 pounds depending on model type. Check below for more details or click the link to the PDF down load for all information for each Kv in this series.

All motors come with an X mount for mounting the motor to the fire wall, pre soldered 4mm gold connectors, and a 8mm Hub prop adaptor; collet style prop adaptor sold seperately for behind fire wall mounting.
Hold cursor over picture for zoom.otorfly, motrofly, brushless motors

* Weight: 455 grams
* Stator Width: 43mm
* Stator Height: 25mm
* Motor Width: 54.8mm
* Motor Length: 52mm
66.3mm X mount to Hub face
* Hub Length: 38.5mm
* Hub Shaft: 8mm x 30mm
* Motor Shaft Size: 6mm
* 12 tooth 14 magnet DLRK


DM4325-340

3D Planes up to 11 lbs.
Sport Planes up to 16 lbs.

6s Lipo 2000 W
8s Lipo 2500 W

19x10 to 20x11 on 6s
16x10 to 17x8 on 8s

18x8 APC, 21.7V, 6600 rpm, 59.36 amps, 13.9 lbs. thrust
18x10 APC, 22.0V, 6400 rpm, 71.0 amps, 16.25 lbs. thrust
19x10 APC, 22.1V, 6125 rpm, 83.77 amps, 17.5 lbs. thrust

Hacker

A50 Outrunner Series
A50 12L
A50 14L
A50 16L
Kv (rpm/V) 355 310 270
Max Power (W) 1650W 1650W 1650W
Max Amp (15sec) 60A 60A 60A
Max Efficiency 85% 85% 85%
Io (No load A) 2.3A 1.9A 1.7A
Rm (Resistance) 0.021Ohm 0.025Ohm 0.031Ohm
Shaft Diameter 6mm 6mm 6mm
Gearbox N/A N/A N/A
Motor Diameter 48mm 48mm 48mm
Motor Length 66.8mm 66.8mm 66.8mm
Motor Weight 470g 470g 470g
Built in Fan Yes Yes Yes
Max Rpm 13,000 13,000 13,000
Poles 14 14 14
Case Outrunner Outrunner Outrunner
ESC Timing 20-25 deg 20-25 deg 20-25 deg
ESC Switching Freq. 8-16KHz 8-16KHz 8-16KHz

As far as price, list is 150 for the hacker and 160 for the motrofly. 3DHS has the hacker as part of their package which would actually make it the better value.

Thanks again

RobT 05-08-2012 01:36 PM

Jet
 
Jet,

What you are saying is what I have heard as well, I guess I just wanted confirmation, especially since I have liked hackers on my smaller stuff.

Larry3215 05-08-2012 07:01 PM

I stand corrected. I hadnt heard anything about Motrofly since they were first introduced. Guess Ive been following the wrong threads :)


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