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birdDog 12-14-2008 11:16 PM

CA Models FUNKY .40???
 
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After hearing too many "Nobody builds kits anymore. Check out this E-Flite ARF..." I have finaly found an old (laser cut!) but very dusty Ca Models Funky .40!!!! Giant wing and massive control surfaces. Going brushless and doing much lightening. Looks like a cool plane!

I found a E-conversion thread on a different sight but there is still some holes in it. I am wondering if any Wattflyers have any input on this kit?

Just ordered a coulpe rolls of covering and I am getting anxious!:silly:

Any input would be great, THANKS, Rob

CHELLIE 12-15-2008 05:47 AM

Neet Plane Rob, here is some info that I found on it, Take care, Chellie

http://www.cerebus.co.za/ca/funky/Funky.htm

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=556521

CHELLIE 12-15-2008 06:41 AM

you may Like this motor for your Funky 40 :D

50-55B 600KV motor
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...er_(Eq.4120/14)

80 AMP ESC this has a 3 amp BEC built into it :ws:
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...eed_Controller

4900mah 5 cell 20C LIPO
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...0C_Lipoly_Pack

Lipo 5 cell
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...00mAh_5S1P_15C

5 cell lipo
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...5C_Lipoly_Pack

13x6 Wood prop :D yea, you start getting this big and a nitro prop works well on larger electric motors.
http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...13x6_propeller








TURNIGY 50-55B http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...ges/5stars.gif
Steve Awesome. You can not, will not find a motor that can match this one for price for punch. Pulling 1500 Watts on a HC 5000Mah 6s swinging a 13x10.

Very good motor http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...ges/5stars.gif
Bigben I ordered two for me and ono of my friend. We use it on a Hyperion Super Chipmunk .70e with a 80 A ESC, a 5S 4000 LiPo and a 14*7 prop. Huge amount of power. Takeoff at 2/3 throttle and infinite vertical climbs. Really great motot for the price, compared to the recommended Hyperion combo ! I'll get another one soon for my Hangar 9 Piper Pawnee (2m).

birdDog 12-15-2008 01:27 PM

Dang Chellie, You are awesome! Now if I can only find my Hobbycity login and password.... I read some other posts where you write about the Rhino lipos, I think I am going to have to bite the bullet and get a pile of them. That will be much nicer that my hodge podge of different brands and weights I currently run. I am pretty sure I can take your word for it, besides, can the Chino Renegades be wrong? I'll bet y'all log a lot of flight time with your weater. Thanks again! Will post some pics when she is all wrapped up!;-)

gfdengine204 12-15-2008 02:06 PM

Rob,

That is a sweet looking flier. Where perchance did you find one?

birdDog 12-15-2008 11:19 PM

Hey Kev. I found her dusty and burried in a pile of arf's at THE GENTLE JUNGLE, in Alsip Il. Real cool place, more plane stuff than I have seen in one place anywhere. The owner (Mike) is a real nice guy. Interestingly enough, he has the RC planes covered and the other half of his store is birds, big ones little ones, all kinds. Amazing guy, he should have been born with wings.

The kit wasw made in Argentina but there is also a sheet of paper in there with US weights and measures: Fuse 54", wing 52",weight 3.75lbs, engine 40-50 2T. Also has some contact info: www.planesplus.com and [email protected] Ph#(630)904-5075, Plainfield IL. The website is more of a link page but if you drop them a line (Don Kanak), he might be able to hook you up.

Pretty light kit for the size, I am also lightening it up some myself. Should be a FUN fun flyer!

birdDog 12-15-2008 11:54 PM

Hey Chellie.... Help???
 
Your suggestions at hobbycity are waiting in my shopping cart. I do have one small problem however. I have a couple chargers that will only support up to 4s packs. And don't really want to buy a new charger (unless it flies...) Do you think I might be ok with these: http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...0C_Lipoly_Pack

and a little bit faster prop?

CHELLIE 12-16-2008 05:15 AM


Originally Posted by birdDog (Post 524258)
Your suggestions at hobbycity are waiting in my shopping cart. I do have one small problem however. I have a couple chargers that will only support up to 4s packs. And don't really want to buy a new charger (unless it flies...) Do you think I might be ok with these: http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...0C_Lipoly_Pack

and a little bit faster prop?

I dont think you will need this much prop :D but just know that you could with 4 cells :ws: I think you will be fine with a 4 cell, a 5 cell will give you hyper performance ;-) but a 4 cell will be fine too, Take care, Chellie

(Use this motor with 4-6 cell Li-Poly packs and 11-12 inch props on planes up to 8 lbs flying weight.
Manufacturer suggests a 12 x 8 prop on 6 cells or 13 x 10 on 4 cells. )

Customer Rated http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...ges/5stars.gif 11/14/2008
Phil I install this motor on my hyperion chipmunk , i use it with 4s batterys 4000 mah with a 80A controller swinging a 14x7 prop , its one of the best motor ive been using . It so powerfull , but dont use a 6s it too scary ....well overpower for the airplane .

CHELLIE 12-16-2008 05:21 AM


Originally Posted by birdDog (Post 524258)
Your suggestions at hobbycity are waiting in my shopping cart. I do have one small problem however. I have a couple chargers that will only support up to 4s packs. And don't really want to buy a new charger (unless it flies...) Do you think I might be ok with these: http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/s...0C_Lipoly_Pack

and a little bit faster prop?

Perfect Lipo :D read what other Pilots are doing with there planes with this motor, they are using 4 to 6 cells, I suggested a 5 cell, because the KV was a little on the low side being a 600kv motor, but with a little more pitch, you can make up for the lower KV, Take care and have fun, Chellie

birdDog 12-16-2008 12:51 PM

Thanks a million! Being that I just started rc at about this time last year, I think the Hyper Performance can wait a little while;-).

birdDog 12-27-2008 06:08 AM

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She is coming along nicely (Terrible weather). I am estimating a little under 5lbs with a 4s 5000mah. Nice big light kit.

CHELLIE 12-27-2008 06:12 AM


Originally Posted by birdDog (Post 531739)
She is coming along nicely (Terrible weather). I am estimating a little under 5lbs with a 4s 5000mah. Nice big light kit.

Thats Looking Nice, I want to fly it too :D Take care, Chellie

birdDog 12-27-2008 06:14 AM

Basically you will be LOL. You picked out the power system!:D

birdDog 01-01-2009 09:22 PM

The PAINFULL wait for servos
 
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Starting to look like a plane. Built a magnet/dowel battery hatch into the top which also gives me access to bolt the wing on from the top. May have to change the hatch around a bit to acomidate the battery, not much though if any.
Kit also comes with a clear cowl to set-up and a white fiberglass one to finish. I may just paint the firewall and motor mount and use the clear cowl! Most of the motor mounts I found were 5-6+ ounces so I decided to box one at about 1-2 ounces. Much cheaper too! Should not be long now! Biggest concern, my roll of blue covering is getting pretty thin:<:

CHELLIE 01-01-2009 09:51 PM

Hi Rob :ws: That Motor fits and looks nice in there :D Good Job, that will look neet to have the cowl clear, showing the motor, Keep up the great work, Chellie

CHELLIE 01-01-2009 10:08 PM

And Now, For my next Trick, Rc Plane Building Trick that is :red: :D I am going to attempt to make a bi Plane with a 72" W/S, it will look something like these 2 planes, a combination of the 2, I bought some cowls on ebay, 3.99 each, some 8.5mm carbon fiber square tube, some 6mm depron, I have the 9mm depron, the 6mm depron will be for the fuselage, it will be a boxed fuse, with flat 9mm wings, wish me Luck, Chellie

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WEIGHT 305g
MAX EFFICIENCY 93%
BATTERY 4 cell Li-poly battery
KV 670
PROPOLLER 13*8/14*7APC-E
CURRENT 1.2A-50A
VOLTAGE 14.8


I think i should be able to use a 15x 4 or 5 prop Chellie

birdDog 01-01-2009 11:02 PM

Ahhh, The Christen Ultimate! Sweet! I found my Axi2820/12 and am thinking of a giant 3 channel Blu-cor AP platform my next adventure!
Thanks again for the power system input. Got me some deep 14-15 and 16" props ordered. I will get some wattage form the 4s if it kills me, or puffs first;-). Let me know how the hybrid goes?

CHELLIE 01-01-2009 11:30 PM


Originally Posted by birdDog (Post 535173)
Ahhh, The Christen Ultimate! Sweet! I found my Axi2820/12 and am thinking of a giant 3 channel Blu-cor AP platform my next adventure!
Thanks again for the power system input. Got me some deep 14-15 and 16" props ordered. I will get some wattage form the 4s if it kills me, or puffs first;-). Let me know how the hybrid goes?

Kewl :D I found some great Prices on props at, A Main Hobby, I ordered 2- 15x4 apc props and 2- 12x3.8 props from them, lowering the pitch on the prop should let me use the bigger diameter prop, i will be using a 4 cell lipo, so I think I should have enough thrust, the bi plane is not going to weigh very much, I am Guessing the plane it self at 32oz and it might be less, thats with out electronics, Take care, Chellie

http://www.amainhobbies.com/

birdDog 01-06-2009 02:31 AM

Funky 40 cleared for take off.
 
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DONE! Not much of a build thread, but you should definately have a few (quite) builds under your belt, if you can even find one of these.
Save for a few finishing touches(adding springs to the stressed landing gear) I think she is ready to maiden. Partialy charged (4.00vpc) 4s 5000Mah, 14x7apc and it lifts up out of my hand. Whew. I can't wait to see the regular at the hobby shop where I bought it, out at the field. I will remind him about when he scoffed and said "Have fun with your box of sticks!". Ohh, I will.... I will.....:tc:

I will report back with prop/amp numbers and AUW after I borrow my mother scale again. Out

guapoman2000 01-06-2009 03:03 AM

BirdDog!!!
 
BirdDog!!

Very nice project and with 4S Li-POLYs that will be a Rocket Ship on take-off!!! Do not forget to Throttle Back!!!

Carlos:Q

CHELLIE 01-06-2009 04:57 AM

Wow :ws: Super nice Job Rob :D It looks great, Just keep it under 100mph for the first few flights ;-) I found a biplane that i want to make, it will have the tappered back wings like a Ultimate, I Like the longer fuselage that the super skybolt has, it will have wider wings, and larger rudder and elevator, wish me luck :) Take care, Chellie

http://www.wattflyer.com/forums/atta...2&d=1230961803

birdDog 01-07-2009 01:04 AM

Finished
 
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Well that's about it for this one. Rigged the LG with some steel fishing leader and some stainless springs. Should hold the weight pretty well. The whole LG rig is held to the fuse with 3 10-32 nylon bolt and nuts (don't want to use t-nuts, never get the broken bolt out).
She's pulling a hair under 600watts at just over 40amps with 14x7e prop and 4s lipo. Should be plenty to get her airborne. I will worry about balistic power at a later time. Thanks for looking, hope I may have helped someone out here! Rob

CHELLIE 01-07-2009 04:06 AM


Originally Posted by birdDog (Post 538661)
Well that's about it for this one. Rigged the LG with some steel fishing leader and some stainless springs. Should hold the weight pretty well. The whole LG rig is held to the fuse with 3 10-32 nylon bolt and nuts (don't want to use t-nuts, never get the broken bolt out).
She's pulling a hair under 600watts at just over 40amps with 14x7e prop and 4s lipo. Should be plenty to get her airborne. I will worry about balistic power at a later time. Thanks for looking, hope I may have helped someone out here! Rob

Hi Rob :ws: Glad you got it done, How is the weather out your way, are you able to fly, or is the weather bad right now for you, would love to see some video and pics of your creation flying, Take care, Chellie

FTE Sales 01-07-2009 10:13 PM

ca Models Funky 40
 
Hello All,

We have one of these kits NIB if any one is interested in it let me know what your willing to pay for it Thanks ~JOHN~


email john @ franktiano . com
863 607 6611

ENUT 02-13-2009 06:59 PM

funky40 part 2
 
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Rob,your funky40 looks great.Here a couple pictures of mine.I have had this plane built since 2005 and just hung it up in my bed room. I'm just doing the finish sanding now.My color scheme will be of the Fosters Beer Can!:D I will post pictures as I get the covering done.My power will be AXI 4120/18:cool: Here are a couple of the plane framed up.
ENUT

birdDog 02-13-2009 11:00 PM

Nice!
 
Hopefully I will be able to maiden within the next month. I kinda want to warm up this season before I fly the bigger builds!;-)

With my balance point I should have made the hatch all the way to the nose. I hafta slide the battery forward about 4 inches before I secure it. I think your hatch placement will be right on but how are you gonna handle the canopy? One benefit of my hatch placement is access to the wing mount screws without putting holes in the bottom of the fuse. Hope the rest goes well for ya.
I am at 82.6oz with 300g motor, 91g ESC and a Kinda excessive 528g lipo. This is sans wing tips and with Coverite Microlite. This gives me a 17.6oz ft wing loading. Let us know what your comes in at?

ENUT 02-14-2009 09:52 PM

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My battery hatch starts from the rear of the first bulk rearward 7 1/2 ".As forthe wing ,I have one hold down screw.It goes through a tube to the base of the wing.Both pictures should explain my idea's.Weather stinks on this side of the country(Connecticut).Cold and windy.Also I have my motor mount on back order:(.Anyway stay warm
ENUT

ENUT 02-19-2009 09:29 PM

Well the covering process has begun.I thought than when I started it was going to be a take down drag out war.But once I set my shop up for covering and have my tools origanized I start to enjoy the work.I'll post pictures later.
ENUT

ENUT 02-20-2009 04:12 AM

Covering has started
 
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Well covering went better than I thought.Also it helps to have a reference picture for your color scheme.So first I set up my tools and work area for covering.I cover on a ironing board.Jumbo size.It works perfect and the surface dosen't beat up the soft balsa air frame.Next covering scheme.As I stated ealier,I will be using the Fosters Lager color scheme.I always start at the rear of the plane and proceed forward.Bottom of the elevator's and stab are silver.Top is corsair blue with a gold stripe.All covering is ultra coat/oracover.In one of the pictures is the oil can and you can get a idea of what I'm looking to accomplish.Anyhow more tommorro.Enjoy,
ENUT

ENUT 02-26-2009 02:41 AM

more pictures
 
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I would have had the wing coverd over the last weekend .But my covering iron crapped out.Fuse is coverd and the motor is instaled.The plastic stand off's come from the paper rolls that go in cash redgisters.

birdDog 02-26-2009 02:56 AM

::oDude, I am gettin' real jealous of the AXI.
That thing's gonna boogie! How many cells are ya planning?
That covering scheme looks awesome too. Fosters logo?
Can't wait to see it all dressed up.

I'm just hoping I can get mine in the air with the 4s:o
Hmmmm....... maybe series.......:D

ENUT 02-26-2009 02:19 PM

Rob ,the motor is rated for 5s to7s packs/or 16to20 round cells:blah:.As of rite now I have 3s packs and 6s packs.I always do test runs at home to see what works best.I will try the 6s packs but don't think I'll need all that voltage.Most likely start hunting for a couple of second hand 5s packs.As for the motor,its what I had lying around collecting dust.About 4 yrs ago or more I flew a sig something extra that I built and electrified on round cells!! and I really loved that plane.But don't have the alierons on high rate when your close to the ground:sad:. So that is when I purchased this kit.I hope it will be as good as the sig plane.Do you have your control surfaces set up for 3D? If so what are your max deflections? What control horns do you use?
ENUT

birdDog 02-27-2009 01:03 AM

Not sure about the Max. deflections. I beveled the surfaces to go about 45* each way and I am gonna go all the way with them. I have the RX in a different bird right now or I would check. I usually maiden with quite a bit of expo and half throw on low rates. I am still trying to snipe an ar6200 for it but they go FAST for less than $80. I have some pretty beefy 1 1/8" three bolt nylon horns and 4-40 dubro rods with z bends and steel clevises. Hopefully get this in the air soon but the weather does not look to good for a while:(.

Don't buy many 5s. I am sure the 6s will be mighty fun!

Funny thing about those AXI's. I had a 2820/10 laying around so I HAD;-) to build a mountain models E-tana! That ones on deck for maiden (with the RX!). I can't wait!

Edit:
I am gonna go with the suggested throws to start.
Rudder low 1 3/8" high 2"
Elevator low 1/2" high 1 9/16"
Ailerons low 1 1/4" high 2 3/16"

ENUT 02-27-2009 05:37 AM

I'm not on who use's expo a lot.But I like to have about 80% on the rudder.Other controls I use dual rates.Ya I know call me old fashion.My radio is only a hitec flash 5x.So it's nothing fancy.Just enough to get the job done.More picture tommorro (friday).Had a couple of "Honey dues" to get out of the way:rolleyes:.I should have the wing coverd.
ENUT

ENUT 03-01-2009 06:46 PM

more covering
 
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Well the covering is done.I just have to paint the cowl.Now the assembly process begins.Also will get the graphics producced.

ENUT

birdDog 03-01-2009 06:48 PM

Nice! Very Nice!:$

ENUT 03-15-2009 04:45 PM

More updates
 
Well the final assembly is going well.hitec 635 servo's on all control surfaces except 634 on the rudder.45Dgrees deflections on elevators and 50 degrees on the rudder travel:D. Cowl painted and color looks real close to covering.Paint was purchased at A.C.Moore crafts store.Will post pictures later.
ENUT

birdDog 03-27-2009 02:04 AM

Arghhhhh
 
Was setting her up in the yard, doing a little taxiing in the street, WHEEEE. Then I tried WOT while bracing the H stab with my legs. GRRRRRRRRRR. Seven (half) of the magnet came unglued from the bell of my new Turnigy 5055-600.:censor:. NOT HAPPY ABOUT THIS. I will try re-gluing the magnets once I find 14 shims to space them out with, and a proper glue of course. I don't feel like shipping to HK, and waiting to get another that, from what I read, will do the same thing. AGHHHHHHH:censor: Not sure when I will be able to Maiden now.:mad::sad:

birdDog 03-27-2009 01:37 PM

Heck with it, I am not puting a $45 motor in this thing. The search for a better motor begins....

ENUT 03-27-2009 11:19 PM

Axi 4120/18 is in my plane.I should be 150 watts per pound.But boy the balance was seriously tail heavy.Then I made up a 6 volt receiver battery.Now it's perfect.I was going to put useless weight up front.But the battery is perfect for need balace.I know everyone is using a hv bec but with these servos I'd rather have a receiver pack.I tell people,"Buy cheap,Buy twice" Sorry to hear of you motor crapping out.
ENUT..


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