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Old 09-16-2018, 07:55 PM
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Upstairs floors will be base OSB then laminate on top. Of course there will be insulation between garage ceiling and workshop floor ... and insulation in the roof space ...

There will be no full ceiling 2 to 3rd floor - that will stay mostly open to allow me to access models etc. up there .. and allow air to flow better ... Only the bar area will have ceiling ..

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Old 09-18-2018, 05:23 PM
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Old 09-18-2018, 05:38 PM
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That is a lot of firewood. I assume that you heat with wood all winter. And since winter is quickly coming, the need for firewood increases. Do you cut your own firewood or purchase it?
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Old 09-18-2018, 08:17 PM
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We have a 16KW glass fronted cast iron wood fire in the kitchen that has a hot air chamber above it. A fan system upstairs draws the hot air up and out via vents to the second floor rooms. The ground floor gets its heat from that fire and the wall behind it heats the guest room next to it. The large banquet room has an open fire if needed.

We also have gas central heating that is left on 'safety' so it fires up when temp drops to 0C outside .. and keeps house at 16C and above to avoid any freezing of pipes. Leaving it on that makes the system extremely economic and in fact because the house is based on double thickness wood walls .. stays mice and warm. We rarely actually switch the gas system on to actually heat the place. The fires have heat transfer walls at their backs to heat other rooms adjacent.

We use about 20 - 22cu.m of wood on average per winter (4 small truck loads we buy in) and we also supplement from the wood collected after strong winds etc. around the estate. This year we have already collected far more than usual .. over 5 cu.m because of thinning out the brush and young trees along the borders.
The thin stuff, 40mm and less has been fed to my shredder and that is now over 5 tons !! Not quite sure what to do with all that ...

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Old 09-19-2018, 02:56 AM
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Looks like rigid foam insulation, that is great. Having outside the cement block makes the block act as a heat reservoir. Very good way to do it.

I wish I had a larger shop, I have a cabinet shop stuffed into a 2 car garage, With no way to expand.
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Old 09-19-2018, 07:01 AM
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The stuff you have shredded will compost into soil. I have used chipped wood to fill holes around my place and within a year or so, it is soil, not wood chips.
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Old 09-19-2018, 08:37 AM
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That has crossed my mind as well ... the chips are about 1/2" by 1/2" ... some a little bigger ...

We can use them in the fires as well ... my workshop will have a wood burner stove with a horizontal steel flue pipe running along the back wall before exiting. No point in wasting that heat !!

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Old 09-19-2018, 05:31 PM
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You need to be careful about the long horizontal run inside the building. As the smoke cools during that run, creosote will form on the inside of the flue and could cause a fire. Creosote fires can be devastating, although you have a basic building that will not burn, it could cause a lot of damage.
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Old 09-19-2018, 08:42 PM
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Agreed ....

I have a specialist who installs the wood fires - he built our main one in the house and its distribution system. All will be sorted with his advice.

There will be frost protect electrics anyway - to stop my Laser cutter from freezing ... along with other gear ... and I have a large AC / Heater unit ready to be fitted as well ...

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Old 09-20-2018, 01:09 AM
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When you see those fellas working on that building you just realize how big it is!
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Old 09-20-2018, 10:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Panther View Post
When you see those fellas working on that building you just realize how big it is!
Yep .. very true.

Wife thinks I'm crazy !!

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Old 09-21-2018, 05:54 PM
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Getting there ...



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Looking really good, Nigel. Will you have it dried in and able to be heated before the winter sets in? Then you can continue to work on the inside in the cold when the river freezes.
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Good vids Nigel. Thanks for the updates. Interesting seeing how things are done there.
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It is different watching the different ways construction is done in different areas. Here OSHA would be all over that scaffolding as being unsafe. I have seen scaffolding in photos from Asia that is made of bamboo that I would not even stand near and this stuff went up many stories. No OSHA there.


For you guys not from the USA, OSHA stands for Occupational Safety and Health Administration.
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I've spent many trips in China ... all over Asia ... and I can tell you that the Bamboo scaffolding I've seen is strong and more than enough for the job.
Remember that in Asia - they even used same to construct temporary railway bridges etc. ..... they didn't fail.

I've seen 'western metal' approved scaffolding fail .. in fact in UK - I had a set fail and I landed on my back in the **** ...

I must admit I was apprehensive about the woodwork my guys are using - problem was all the rental scaffolding is out on jobs as others try to get work done before the weather turns.

As to OSHA .. and its equivalents in many countries I have work ... its OK but also can create its own problems. The idea is of course good, but implementation / rules are often made by idiots or those with commercial interest. Sorry to be blunt ... but its what I see so often.

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Don't misunderstand my comment, Nigel. I certainly an not a fan of OSHA. I am sure that the scaffold erected by your guys is functional or they would not be up on it. I am sure they don't have a death wish. It was just my tongue in cheek of poking fun at OSHA.


The bamboo scaffolding just looks scary to me. It may be stronger than steel but it just looks scary.
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Not meaning to be contentious .... as a Brit I am aware of the Burma Railway and the PoW's forced to build the infamous railway. Many of the structures were bamboo or timber based and only replaced many years later.

When we look at many of the countries that use 'natural' products instead of what we in the west would choose .... often there is a very good reason for them to use such - availability ......

When you see how they construct as well - you will see they are not just throwing together a structure ... they use established techniques.

I have been amazed how high they will go with such as well.....

Ok - back to my guys ... I am sure they contravened H&SE rules as Latvia is part of the over bureaucratic EU ensemble ..... EU is fast approaching the USA levels of **** ....

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Old 09-28-2018, 04:50 PM
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Old 10-02-2018, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Rabbitcreekok View Post
It is different watching the different ways construction is done in different areas. Here OSHA would be all over that scaffolding as being unsafe. I have seen scaffolding in photos from Asia that is made of bamboo that I would not even stand near and this stuff went up many stories. No OSHA there.


For you guys not from the USA, OSHA stands for Occupational Safety and Health Administration.

Bamboo Scaffolding is stronger than steel, Bamboo Scaffolding will withstand a Hurricane if tied and secured right.


https://engineering.purdue.edu/MSE/a...schlotman.html


Bamboo scaffolding is being used in China and Hong Kong instead of steel for several reasons. Bamboo actually has a greater tensile strength than steel. It is also much cheaper to use, and completely environmentally friendly.
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Looks Great Nigel, I am getting ready to move in LOL
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Originally Posted by solentlife View Post
Yep .. very true.

Wife thinks I'm crazy !!

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I Think Your Wife is RIGHT Nigel LOL, I know I am a Little Crazy in a Nice way
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Old 10-02-2018, 08:45 AM
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Here's the general idea .... still to draw up furniture ...



Cars and store at the ground ... model workshop and bar on the second ... storage for models etc. on third.

Having used before for a 'shed workshop' when I lived in UK ... I plan to use kitchen furniture as the base units. There will be T benches as well to allow 270 deg access to models when needed .. tables that can be raised into the overhead beams out of the way to open up floor space ... model railway and slot car on two raisable tables ..

My house at present has the second floor filled with models and my gear .. Laser ... 3D printer .... drill presses ..... auto foam cutter .... etc. It will all move out to the new place and house will then be a living area instead of Model workshop !!



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Old 10-03-2018, 05:20 AM
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When you say store, what do you mean? An RC store, a drone store or some other kind of store?
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Originally Posted by Rabbitcreekok View Post
When you say store, what do you mean? An RC store, a drone store or some other kind of store?
We have wood burning fire as main heating system in the house and its a long walk to the barn in winter !! So idea is to have a stock nearer the house. That's intention at moment .. but who knows ?

The door is wider than normal to enter based on large wheelbarrow !!

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