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Old 09-25-2011, 10:52 PM
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Default Boeing Technical Order (T.O. 1-1-636 11 Jan 1956 )

Today I resolved the issue of stencils. I have a copy of T.O. 1B-47-1 "Location and Application of Exterior Stencils" headed
my way. It covers all variants in its 250 pages. It contains the composition of each stencil, its dims and a placement guide.

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Default What & Why Vortex Generators On The B-47...



The B-47's swept wing, outboard flaperon (through the first 20 degrees) & small aileron need as uniform a flow over surfaces
as possible. After my conversation with Joe Martin at the beginning of this project yielded his constant reminder the ailerons
were ineffective. Adding Vortex Generators can't do anything but help the flaperon and aileron behavior.



Make sure you understand the above illustration shows relative position of individual blades at their mid to leading edge
position. There is a stagger which is explicitly defined in an engineered drawing from Boeing. More later on.

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Default Bellevue, WA Resources Available @ Boeing


I have been turning over every stone looking for stencil and placard resources. The above was discovered in
an article focused on Boeing Archives in Bellevue, Washington. David Brown's article and photography serve
to show details of the Boeing Archive facility. Check out David's blog.... ;^)

David Parker Brown
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Old 10-11-2011, 08:36 PM
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Default Yaw String per... T.O. No. 1B-47(D)(Y)E-1




Note the above airframe is a "B" model. Note that the white line was not necessarily painted onto E's.
I believe this is something Dave P. mentioned last year.
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Old 10-16-2011, 12:27 AM
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Default B-47

I have recently aquired a bronze and hand craved desk models of a B-47 from Bronze Art and other items related to the B-47. Can anyone tell me where I can get more information about this? This used to belong to a B-47 pilot named Overstreet. I don't have his frist name in front of me at this time, but I can get it.

From some of the papers I've found he was stationed in Alaska, Japan and maybe Germany.

I know this is probobly not the site to add this, but you guys seen to know hell of a lot about the B-47 and I'm guessing someone might even know who Overstreet was.

Thanks for any information. I can't give you an e-mail because i haven't had 3 post yet.
Phil

Sorry, for taking time away from your models.
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Phil,

This is simple.... Go to Google and type in B-47 Association then hit enter key. When the link appears click it then pick
someone in the real world of B-47's to ask. Nothing here on this site is real...

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Default 230+ Pages Of Stenciling :^)

Guess what arrived in today's snail mail from Dept. Of The Air Force, Wright - Patterson AFB...

All pages of T.O. 1B-47-1 were scanned to a CD in .pdf to enable ease of scaling prior to a swift copy
paste to a master for making dry transfers.

Full Size: http://004edc4.netsolhost.com/B47/B4...l%20Index2.jpg



To translate the placement guide you need a former station master and the included sectional
placement guides in the T.O.


A color guide for text was included. You still need several placards including static, vent, flush, Danger
Triangle, fuel dot, etc.


Click thumbnail to copy paste full size...






I will make these dry transfer stencils available in our B-47 resources when we are finished.




................What & How Wide In Inches............ Serial I.D............Where On Airframe......Color Group
My next "to do" is creation of a stencil master for dry transfers. None of the above are proportional to each other.

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Default Quiz..... :^)

Here's a quick quiz to see who's paying attention...



What color are the above stencil examples?
For a "bonus", on what airframe(s)?

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Default Stencil Text Colors

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Guessing red.....
Don, how did you determine the text was "red"? Everyone else can chime-in anytime you want! I have a lot to learn.

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Default Drawing Resources

When it rains it pours... Folks, there is another drawing of merit. For the folks who want to build an XB-47 aka B-47a you are
in luck... Everything on the E drawing applies to the XB47 and B-47A except...

1). Fuselage ahead of the leading edge

2). Leading edge slats

3). Nacelle front

4). Wing tip

5). ?

If you would like to add to this list feel free to do so but before you do remember we are building a model and whatever
it is you add must be seen as a difference from 15 feet to make a difference in a contest.

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Note cross sections on fuse, nacelles, and there are segments for wing, vertical fin, and horiz stab.

These drawings are for a scale desk model. They were originally drawn in 1947 as a general layout point of reference.
Gee, I wonder what the source for the E drawings was for the ash tray desk models.... :^)



Note the three drawing changes...6/19/1947, 10/8/1948, and 1/16/1951 with 6/12/1947 the date of the original.

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Default B-47A AN-01-20ENA-1 T.O. Manual

B-47A:



Boeing B-47A (S/N 49-1900) The 1st B-47A constructed.

To further support those interested in building an "A" model here is a link to where you can download AN-01-20ENA-1. This
is early in the support infrastructure for the B-47 series. Register on the forum then return to click on this hyperlink to gain
free access to this document.

B47A-S.PDF‎

AN-01-20ENA-1





It provides an adequate visual verification of photographic documentation you have gathered either online or from printed
focuses. You can replicate a full cockpit with photographic instrument and control documentation for pilot and co-pilot.

Don't scoff at this reverse 3VU. It was drawn by Boeing as the general layout. The only other Boeing A drawing I know of
is above. This should get you past the static judges with a smile on your face.

As an example of useful cockpit details... :^) This is the co-pilot's fuel distribution quadrant. For those unaware, fuel tanks
are all over a B-47's fuselage...the wings are not wet in a B-47. Maintaining balance is a full time job swapped around...

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Default Two (Or More) Detail & Scale B-47 Volumes Published



.....................................THIS......... .................................................. ..............NOT THIS

Does anyone have this Detail & Scale Issue? I need cover scanned and possibly internal images. The issue corner is too fuzzy
to be sure...it appears to be Vol. 10, 15, 16, 18, or 19. This is an alternate cover from either a previous printing or completely
different volume. Note extra pylons for 4 Cross Bows visible in uncropped image below.



You can see the #3 GAM-67 in the above image which when cropped was used for the cover of the Destail & Scale we need. No
The caption accompanies my larger imate...therefore I have to prove it was published as a reference. I know, but its how game
is played...Guessing there's more images in the D&S volume.
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Default StuMax-110 Nacelle~Pylon



Over in the first thread of this build I posted a fair amount of StuMax-110 resource; an excellent choice by the way. Before I
discard that data from my resource index Sam thought it would be good to post an inboard nacelle image of our nacelle pylon
with the SM-110 shown over the image of our Dynamax. This will provide those who favor the SM-110 over the Dynamax with
an arrangement illustration.
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Default Individual Component Positioning aka Spacing.

Now that we are getting back to drawings, I present a few more obscure cockpit drawings which will permit more accurate
component to component spacing. The blue print below is really jam packed with data as can be seen in 45 degree notes
with arrows to various segments of the drawing. These are courtesy of Michael Wilson without who's image contributions
my project would not be drawing to a conclusion... ;^) Thanks Mike!



The above data appears below in non-blue print format as a black line from which lofting, measuring and fabrication can occur.

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i am really enjoying your design and buildup of the B-47.i myself am working on a 1/15 scale A-3 skywarrior from chris golds plans.will be a scratch build using balsa and ply with 70mm edfs.plans are basic and having to adjust and design as i go along.some people can't seem to understand the trial and error work to build these,much less to the detail you are looking for.all my prayers and best wishes go out to you.good luck and God bless you .bill morris
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Thanks Bill,

You understand and can appreciate the multiple validations required as you work forward. I have a friend in SoCal who's wanting
to construct an A-3. He was in USMC and was apparently around them onboard his duty stations. An interesting subject...why
are you building an A-3?



To me the A-3 poises "0" diversity in its mission...basically level flight. It was relagated to Electronic Warfare and ECM roles that
ranged from extended access points to the electronic shield erected around its host carrier. There has to be some personal issue
related to this aircraft for you to want to scratch build one.

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thanks for your reply.was a b/n on one during nam era.we did weapons testing on them out of pt. mugu,calif ,including china lake,whidbey island wash. state and over seas.i sort of grew fond of the old birds.nothing fancy,just did their job.thats what makes modeling so much fun,something for everyone.i'm adding air brakes,tail skid,drag chute,flight crew including electronics crew in bomb bay,lots of little details.it just grew once i started.i was going to cover with flight metal but the color was gray so using monocote.i wish you well on your project and God bless you . bill morris
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Default Nam Era Documentation Is Skinny !

Bill,

Create a new thread in the EDF section of WattFlyer.

I encourage you to post photos from your personal tours with A-3's and what was probably an EA-3 in S.E.A. deployment
and what sounds like it could have been part of "Arc Light" as "was" the case when our two projects began, there was
very little B-47 documentation online...now that I stirred up the subject you need only type in B-47 Stratojet and hit enter
to see thousands of returns. Our second B-47 is a WB-47B.

Few people realize WB-47's flew "Arc Light" in S.E.A. for B-52 deliveries up-river. WB-47's created what amounted to the
60's version of a WWII "Follow Me" pathway across the South Pacific as they reported realtime weather in a region prone
to "pop-up", virtually instant, tropical depressions at "0" ceiling as they approached from Clark & undisclosed AFB.

I invite you to create your own subject thread in the EDF section of Watt Flyer because large scale jet projects need a
nesting place.

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Ed,

It appears to be the print head to a 3D printer.

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