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Old 10-17-2008, 08:53 PM
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Anyone here using Anderson Power Poles for connectors between batteries and ESCs?

I have decided to slowly make the switch. I have a few lipos that use some heavy duty gauge wire. It is a pain to solder them to Deans.

My buddy just switched over and I have to say I am an instant fan of them.
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Old 10-17-2008, 08:59 PM
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I use them and am really pleased. You can buy the crimping tool from West Mountain Radio, as well as the connectors.

The crimping tool from Anderson is very expensive, but is industrial strength for hundreds of thousands of uses. The West Mountain tool will be fine.
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Old 10-17-2008, 09:08 PM
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Yeah. I just received some in the mail today. I got 25 of the 45A version. I can not bring myself to spend $50+ on a crimper. Luckily my buddy has one I can borrow.
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Old 10-17-2008, 09:14 PM
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I use them, and love them.... I solder most connections... but I've crimped them too... and they work well... in the beginning I used the 30amp connectors for everything, and just solder all the smaller wires, Now I still use the 30amp'rs and solder everything just as an added precaution...

I've used them up to 50amps on 4cell packs... And they work fine, I've heard others state they've personally used them up to 120amps on 6cell packs, so I'm guessing they can take pretty much whatever you throw at them, anything with more power, and I'd prob get the bigger ones... but for now the 30amp'rs will do fine for me...

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I am having to go with the 45A version because of the large gauge wire on some of my 4s packs. The wire will not fit int he 30A connectors
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I know they're supposed to fit the same, but can you conferm that they are?
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I'll use this post to post the meat of the rest of the posts so you won't have to read through everything.

The 15, 30 & 45 amp contacts all use the same housing. Therefore, they all plug into each other. The only difference between the 15, 30 & 45 amp contacts is the size of the receiving barrel that holds the wire and the 45 amp is a beefier contact.

This is the best price I have found for Powerpoles are from Powerwerx
http://www.powerwerx.com/anderson-po...b-series-sets/

For the best results at the least cost use the PowerWerx TRIcrimp
http://www.powerwerx.com/product.asp?ProdID=3324&CtgID
I don't recommend the $12 pliar type crimper. The results are inconsistent and will not work on the 45amp connector.

If you are going to convert please use the diagram below as the standard.
Viewing from the contact side (opposite the wire side), tongue down, hood up, RED on the LEFT, BLACK on the RIGHT. Use a 3/32-inch-diameter roll pin, 1/4 inch long, or a drop of super-glue, to keep the housings from sliding apart.
(My PPs were tight and didn't slide apart so I haven't used the pin or the super glue. Plus I like the option of being able to slide them apart)


Here is a must read article about Power Poles.

If you switch your battery from Deans to PP, cut off the deans, one wire at a time, and leave around an inch of wire. That way you can use the Deans ends to make Deans to PP adapters so you can still share batteries with your buds and use their charging equipment too.

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Old 10-17-2008, 09:24 PM
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Yup, the 45A connectors will fit in the plastic housing of the 30A... The housings are the same, the connectors are wider though
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I have some 12g wire that fits in them, but its pretty tight... I also thought about going with the 45's

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Old 10-17-2008, 09:29 PM
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Default I've used them for years.............

I started useing them years ago with NiCd and Nimh. I even used the soldering iron and removed them to use on the Li-Poly batteries I switched to.
I've never had a failure or one vibrate apart. Be sure to get the real Dean's, the ones they sell in Hong Kong don't work near as well.
I'm real glad I didn't switch when everyone started going to the t-style.
I use them on everything but the ESC to motor wires.......
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Old 10-17-2008, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ministeve2003 View Post
I know they're supposed to fit the same, but can you conferm that they are?
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the Liquid one and I will compare the 30 and 45 amp ones today and provide pics. The Anderson literature shows that they use the same body.

Here is a good article about Power Poles.
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Old 10-17-2008, 09:36 PM
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Also, when you switch from Deans to PP. Cut off the deans, one wire at a time if on a battery, and leave around an inch of wire. That way you can use the Deans ends to make Deans to PP adapters so you can still share batteries with your buds and use their charging equipment too.
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Old 10-17-2008, 10:01 PM
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Originally Posted by ministeve2003 View Post
I know they're supposed to fit the same, but can you conferm that they are?
15A, 30A and 45A all fit in the same plastic housings. In fact they're identical apart from the size of the crimp socket for the wire....which suggests that any of them will in fact handle at least 45A provided the wire is up to it .

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Old 10-18-2008, 12:17 AM
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The Deans/Powerpole debate gets pretty heated over in RCG.

Me, I'm sticking to deans. Three minutes of soldering isn't that big a hassle.
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Old 10-18-2008, 02:03 AM
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Well I am off to purchase a better crimper.
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Old 10-18-2008, 03:29 AM
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I imagine for me to switch I would have to invest in the crimper. I dunno about y'all but my battery and ESC wires get a lot of workout in their lifetime. My college painting professor (a nice woman to be sure but perhaps a little socially inept) told me I "have the hands of a blacksmith". After realizing she had just come right out and told me I sucked in the middle of the semester, she went on to try and explain that she meant it in the best possible way.

Anyways, what the beer in me is trying to say is that I tend to stress the more delicate things I handle. To have an imperfect crimp fail spectacularly at the field... well... let's just say I like my chances with my Deans
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Old 10-18-2008, 03:43 AM
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The cheaper crimper didn't work so well for the 45 amp contact. The problem was amplified by the fact that we were trying to crimp it onto an 8 gauge wire. So a fat wire and a cheap crimper equals an uneven crimp that physically wont fit into the body.

I'll tell you this about crimp vs solder contacts. I worked in the aircraft industry for over 19 years. 12 of that was direct hands on repair over avionics systems. During that time I was a wiring specialist and I am certified by the USAF, Northrop Grumman and Boeing in all kinds of wiring repair and fabrication. Crimping on contacts is the preferred method because, with the proper tools, it is easily taught, consistently reproducible and does not damaged the wire, contact or insulation. I guarantee you that I can strip, crimp and insert and complete set of power poles before your soldering iron is warm enough to use. I can also teach anyone else to do the same.

Its funny how people think their "bigger the glob the better the job" cold solder joint is better that a crimp. This aint no needle nose pliar car stereo crimp.

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Old 10-18-2008, 03:45 AM
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Now it is a waiting game for the bad @#$ crimper to get here. Hurry up.. I am guessing next friday
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It is pretty hard to solder 8 gauge wire to a deans connector. The wire itself almost touches both prongs. That was my main reason for changing over to PP
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Old 10-18-2008, 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by Liquidity View Post
Well I am off to purchase a better crimper.


Get the one from West Mountain Radio its the best for the price.

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Old 10-18-2008, 04:54 AM
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Too expensive. I got this one.. Exact same thing, better price.

http://www.powerwerx.com/product.asp...324&CtgID=1679
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Old 10-18-2008, 04:58 AM
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Here are the pics we took today. The 45 amp contact allows a larger gauge wire to be used.
30 amp contacts, 12-14 gauge, silver plated copper.
45 amp contacts, 10-12 gauge, silver plated copper. This contact is stiffer and thicker than the 30 amp




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Old 10-18-2008, 01:49 PM
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I'm glad to see the Deans vs. PowerPoles debate didn't erupt here. Kudos to you guys for not letting that happen.

I used PowerPoles for a long time and liked them very much. Especially when I started using larger gauge wires.

The crimping tool makes crimping the wires a joy. It's a good feeling to know the crimp is done right every time.

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Old 10-18-2008, 02:39 PM
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In addition to being simple to crimp with the right tool, power pole connectors are much easier to connect and disconnect than Deans. I also recommend the use of roll pins to insure the paired connectors remain aligned.
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Old 10-18-2008, 02:57 PM
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I use both now. PP on my larger batteries and Deans where space is an issue. Yes I know you can trim down the PP to make them smaller, but currently everythign barely fits in my Siren and I am not about to change that now.
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