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Old 11-15-2008, 04:53 AM
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Does anyone have any feedback on the Mystery brand products you can buy on eBay? I am planning to purchase their 3S batteries and 60 amp speed controllers and was hoping someone has some air time on their products and may have some feedback.
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Old 11-15-2008, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by fjintx View Post
Does anyone have any feedback on the Mystery brand products you can buy on eBay? I am planning to purchase their 3S batteries and 60 amp speed controllers and was hoping someone has some air time on their products and may have some feedback.
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I have about 3 dozen flights on a Mystery "blue series" 40A ESC (60A is the highest rating they make that isn't opto as I recall) and I have never had any sort of problem. It's on a Parkzone Mustang with a 2700Kv inrunner that pulls consistently over 35A and it has never complained. The price point on DealExtreme has gone up a bit since I bought it, but it is still 6 bucks cheaper than my go-to which is probably the Turnigy Plush series.


Dunno about their LiPos to be honest, but I have heard people go both ways on them, much like Zippies.
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Old 11-19-2008, 01:27 AM
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I have a Mystery 4000kv outrunner on my Ikarus SU-27 shockflyer. It's good, but I'm not blown away by it. I run it on a 2S lipo at about 20 amps.

Their ESC's I have no opinion of.

Mystery batteries are mostly very good. In fact it is my favorite brand. I have 9 of them. The only dud is a pair of 2S 900mAh 15c that should be rated at about 8c. All of the others I own are excellent. Here's what I have:

2S 900mAh 15c - over-rated. It flies my E-F Jenny fine at about 6 amps.
2S 900mAh 20c - good. I run two of these in parallel on my SU-27
3S 2200mAh 15c - great battery. very light weight. best for 25 amps or less.
3S 2200mAh 25c - awesome!!! These batteries hold their voltage really well under load. My Stryker has unlimited vertical with these on board.
3S 2400mAh 15c - very good. long flight times and light weight. I fly these from 15 to 30 amps and they hold voltage nicely.

Overall, Mystery batteries are lighter in weight than most other brands. Build quality is good but not great. Longevity is good from what I can tell. My oldest pack has about 30 cycles so far and is still holding strong, though not quite what it was when new. IMO, for the price, these are great batteries.
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Old 11-19-2008, 01:50 AM
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Doug, I just asked about the weight of those Mystery batteries in another thread!! I just got my Phase 3 F-16 in today and the manual says to mount the fan according to the weight of the battery. I have a couple Mystery 3s 2200mah 20C Li-pos and was wondering if you knew how much they weighed??

As for the quality, I'm very happy with the Mystery batteries. I have three of them and they work very well. I've had them for about six months now and never a problem!

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Originally Posted by Angler-Hi View Post
Doug, I just asked about the weight of those Mystery batteries in another thread!! I just got my Phase 3 F-16 in today and the manual says to mount the fan according to the weight of the battery. I have a couple Mystery 3s 2200mah 20C Li-pos and was wondering if you knew how much they weighed??

As for the quality, I'm very happy with the Mystery batteries. I have three of them and they work very well. I've had them for about six months now and never a problem!

Mike
I don't know about the 20c, but my 2200 15c is 149 grams, and the 2200 25c is 161 grams. That's one of the first things I do when I get a battery: stick it on the scale and write the weight of the battery on the label with a Sharpie.
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Thanks Doug! I think I'll just assume it's about 155gm. I also have another battery that's the same but weighs 180gm. This is getting aggravating. Thanks for the help man!

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Mike, next time you need some 3S batteries, check out the Mystery 2200 25c. They are amazing! I let a friend try one over the weekend in a 48" balsa 3D plane (that I was surprised even flies on 3 cells!), and he immdeiately wanted to get some for himself. There is one eBay seller offering them 2 for $49 delivered.
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Old 11-19-2008, 03:26 AM
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Thanks Doug. I may pick some up when I get back if they're still available. I don't want to buy them and have them just sit for a year while I'm deployed. Thanks for all the help Doug! You're good people friend.

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Old 11-19-2008, 04:12 AM
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Originally Posted by fjintx View Post
Does anyone have any feedback on the Mystery brand products you can buy on eBay? I am planning to purchase their 3S batteries and 60 amp speed controllers and was hoping someone has some air time on their products and may have some feedback.
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Mystery ESC are real mystery. thay come in any deferent size Amps and weight , never match the other, some time they have BEC some time not, even they must have according to the label. I have many of them half not working
All my Mystery battery are on the garbage after 10-20 cycles.
So I am dun.
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Originally Posted by tushev View Post
Mystery ESC are real mystery. thay come in any deferent size Amps and weight , never match the other, some time they have BEC some time not, even they must have according to the label. I have many of them half not working
All my Mystery battery are on the garbage after 10-20 cycles.
So I am dun.

Apologies, I intended to make it a point to single out the "blue" series - that is, the heatsink is a machined piece of anodized blue aluminum with specs writing on it, encased in clear shrink. These are quality ESC's. The ones with the paper sitcker on the outside with the little flame on them - not so much.
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Old 11-19-2008, 04:43 AM
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Sorry to hear about your luck with the Mystery batteries tushev. I've had nothing but good experiences with them. I've had mine for six months, about a hundred cycles or close to it on each and they're still kicking. Is there more than one type of Mystery battery?
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Originally Posted by Angler-Hi View Post
Sorry to hear about your luck with the Mystery batteries tushev. I've had nothing but good experiences with them. I've had mine for six months, about a hundred cycles or close to it on each and they're still kicking. Is there more than one type of Mystery battery?
I'm talking about this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Mystery-2400mAh-...|39:1|240:1318

I am sorry I,m little cranky
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Old 11-19-2008, 05:06 AM
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Originally Posted by Angler-Hi View Post
Sorry to hear about your luck with the Mystery batteries tushev. I've had nothing but good experiences with them. I've had mine for six months, about a hundred cycles or close to it on each and they're still kicking. Is there more than one type of Mystery battery?
Yes, actually there are. I read somewhere, but not on WF, that these batteries come from two different factories. All Mystery batteries have a product code on them which identifies, among other things, the location they were manufactured. If it ends in "HHH", it is one of the good ones. If it ends in something else, then it's hit or miss. The 2S 900mAh 15c that I have is coded TO3466P4H3R. It is badly overrated. My other 2S 900's are coded MY703048HHH. They are good little batteries.

Also, except for the aforementioned 900's, all of my Mystery batteries were purchased within the last 8 months. They are all good.
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Originally Posted by tushev View Post
I'm talking about this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Mystery-2400mAh-...|39:1|240:1318

I am sorry I,m little cranky
I have two of those and they have worked great for me. Hmmm.
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Originally Posted by fjintx View Post
Does anyone have any feedback on the Mystery brand products you can buy on eBay? I am planning to purchase their 3S batteries and 60 amp speed controllers and was hoping someone has some air time on their products and may have some feedback.
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I have one of this it's steel ok:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Mystery-2200mah-...|39:1|240:1318
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Originally Posted by tushev View Post
I've got one of those too. It has at least 30 cycles on it and it's probably still 90-95% of what it was new.
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Originally Posted by Fly Time View Post
I have two of those and they have worked great for me. Hmmm.
I may push them too mutch
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I may push them too mutch
Well that could always be the case. I bought mine for my ArtTech Corsair which has a short battery compartment. The standard length for 2100-2200 size batteries is about 103mm give or take, which is too long for the Corsair. Even though the capacity of this battery is greater, it is much shorter at about 90mm, so it is a perfect fit. The Corsair only draws around 20 amps max, but I have also flown it in my Stryker (23 amps) and my Gee Bee Y (30 amps in short bursts).

Also, I almost always balance charge at less than 1c.
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Old 11-19-2008, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by tushev View Post
I'm talking about this:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Mystery-2400mAh-...|39:1|240:1318

I am sorry I,m little cranky
No worries friend. I have the same but mine is the 2200mah. I'll have to check and see the code on them like Fly Time was saying.

I REALLY like the GE Power Li-pos that you find on ebay as well. Those things are sweet!! They give my planes alot of Ummph!! Love em.
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Old 11-19-2008, 04:27 PM
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Thanks for your reply. You said the ESC isn't "opto." Would you tell me what the term opto means?
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Old 11-19-2008, 05:12 PM
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Originally Posted by fjintx View Post
Thanks for your reply. You said the ESC isn't "opto." Would you tell me what the term opto means?
Thanks,
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Well, Its been a long time since I studied IC's, but basically what it means is that the speed controller uses an optoelectronic (light-based) 'coupler' to completely isolate the battery and motor which reduces 'noise' among other things - problem is that the circuit design itself cannot then supply DC voltage for the receiver, hence the need for a UBEC or a Receiver battery pack when using these controllers.

I'm pretty sure the 60A has a linear BEC... But the 80A does not. I have the product chart that came with mine when I bought it somewhere, I'll look for it today when I go through my paperwork.

Its also sort-of taken for granted that if you are using a 80A ESC the model is large enough that added weight of a UBEC or a Rx pack will not affect the flight characteristics too much - 80A x 11.1v assumes a possible 800+ Watts, which is nothing to sneeze at.
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I own two of thoses 2450 25 C mystery batteries :

http://cgi.ebay.com/2450mAh-11-1V-25...742.m153.l1262

I can say that they are spectacular compare to my other batteries .

Thoses are results of static tests on a don's wicked 2700 KV outrunner and APC 5.5x4.5:
They all are peak values with 3S batteries:

parkzone 2200 12 C: 31 A- 303 W

ABF 2200 20 C : 33.4 A - 344 W

HC 2100 25 C : 34.5 - 365 W

MYSTERY 25 C 2450 : 40 A - 460 W !!!!

I use thoses mysteries on a stryker and let me tell you that they really push hard compare to all my other batt.
Of course I have less than 20 cycles on them while the other ones are almost one year olds.

still, I am so please with them that I will purchase the new 2800 mah 25 C ones . They have put a new 30 C label but they are 25C continues only .
I don't know if they really do it but 40 A is no problem for the 2450 mah and they come down perfectly cold .
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Thanks for the great explanation. Now I understand why the higher amperage ESC's don't include the BEC. My Mystery 60A unit does not have a BEC so I just ordered UBEC that draws it power from the motor battery.
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Old 11-19-2008, 07:39 PM
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Originally Posted by jpette View Post
I own two of thoses 2450 25 C mystery batteries :

http://cgi.ebay.com/2450mAh-11-1V-25...742.m153.l1262

I can say that they are spectacular compare to my other batteries .

Thoses are results of static tests on a don's wicked 2700 KV outrunner and APC 5.5x4.5:
They all are peak values with 3S batteries:

parkzone 2200 12 C: 31 A- 303 W

ABF 2200 20 C : 33.4 A - 344 W

HC 2100 25 C : 34.5 - 365 W

MYSTERY 25 C 2450 : 40 A - 460 W !!!!

I use thoses mysteries on a stryker and let me tell you that they really push hard compare to all my other batt.
Of course I have less than 20 cycles on them while the other ones are almost one year olds.

still, I am so please with them that I will purchase the new 2800 mah 25 C ones . They have put a new 30 C label but they are 25C continues only .
I don't know if they really do it but 40 A is no problem for the 2450 mah and they come down perfectly cold .
You linked to something other than a Mystery battery Can't quite make out the brand name from the picture.

Does anyone have a suggestion for a good 4S 2200mAh lipo? I wish Mystery made 4S batteries, but so far I've only seen them in 2S and 3S.
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http://www.bphobbies.com/view.asp?id...1&pid=B1858541

Just make up or buy a serial connector and use 2x2s = 4s
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