New Spektrum Receiver, the AR500
09-02-2008, 03:04 PM
#29
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Just to clarify, This is a 5 channel receiver with 6 slots (7 including bat slot) channels 1-5 and then a copy of the aileron channel on a 6th slot.
It is Not 4 channels with a copy of aileron on the 5th slot which was said earlier.
If horizon is selling them for $60 you can bet you can find them for $50 elsewhere and for a glider this would be the ticket.
It is Not 4 channels with a copy of aileron on the 5th slot which was said earlier.
If horizon is selling them for $60 you can bet you can find them for $50 elsewhere and for a glider this would be the ticket.
09-02-2008, 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by firemanbill
Tell me about it.
I am still yet to use more than 4 of my channels! well a couple of birds I have set up with flaperons using the aucx channel making use of #5 but for the most part... 4 is it!
I am still yet to use more than 4 of my channels! well a couple of birds I have set up with flaperons using the aucx channel making use of #5 but for the most part... 4 is it!
Well, think of it as built-in flexibility. You never know... one morning you might get up early and decide to put retracts on your Slow Stick.
09-02-2008, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by groundrushesup
Well, think of it as built-in flexibility. You never know... one morning you might get up early and decide to put retracts on your Slow Stick.
09-02-2008, 04:23 PM
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Originally Posted by constantCrash
Just to clarify, This is a 5 channel receiver with 6 slots (7 including bat slot) channels 1-5 and then a copy of the aileron channel on a 6th slot.
It is Not 4 channels with a copy of aileron on the 5th slot which was said earlier.
If horizon is selling them for $60 you can bet you can find them for $50 elsewhere and for a glider this would be the ticket.
It is Not 4 channels with a copy of aileron on the 5th slot which was said earlier.
If horizon is selling them for $60 you can bet you can find them for $50 elsewhere and for a glider this would be the ticket.
Thanks, I stand corrected.
09-04-2008, 10:26 PM
#33
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I fly many airplanes that only require 4 channels, but all have dual aileron servos. Under no circumstances would I consider using a four channel receiver, you lose all the advantages that a modern computer radio offers with dual servo setups, got differential??
I agree with constant crash, the new AR500 looks real sweet for glider use. True antenna diversity without the hassles of remote receivers.
Pete
I agree with constant crash, the new AR500 looks real sweet for glider use. True antenna diversity without the hassles of remote receivers.
Pete
09-28-2008, 02:36 PM
#34
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AR500
I've just bought two of these AR500 receivers.
I really got them for simple slopers and electric sailplanes (and, whisper it, 'boat') use.
I tried the first out yesterday on a boat with the antenna at water level, as there is a suggestion that over water/damp grass, etc there could be some signal skip and they would stop working. Answer is 'they don't stop working!'.
The throttle-off failsafe works too. Not a thing to do with aircraft, but I get the boat out a long way and switched the transmitter off. It came to a halt and floated around for about 30 minutes while I took photographs. As soon as my tx was switched on, it regained control instantly and that's it. They work as they are supposed to and I want nothing more. I even tried going into range check and got well over 100ft. Remember all this was over the dreaded water.
I've mentioned it before, but if you only use the conventional REM and Ail, then there's no need to put in an expensive 7 or 9 channel receiver.
My pet gripe at the moment :-
There are too many people using half-baked thoughts and rumours. It happened on 27mhz when super-regen came in, crystal control, sunspots, an 'R' in the month etc.were all supposed to cause problems. 35mhz here in the UK also was reputed to be a problem on certain frequencies and conditions. No proof or demonstrations showed any such thing in my experience. Am I lucky in that I don't have radio problems and have not had any since I started in the early 1960s? I don't think so. There are unexplained crashes - mine are due to pilot error mainly, and pushing the limits on occasions with flattening batteries.
2.4 seems to be repeating the 'here be dragons' syndrome. The only thing this time is that there don't seem to be any dragons around.
I really got them for simple slopers and electric sailplanes (and, whisper it, 'boat') use.
I tried the first out yesterday on a boat with the antenna at water level, as there is a suggestion that over water/damp grass, etc there could be some signal skip and they would stop working. Answer is 'they don't stop working!'.
The throttle-off failsafe works too. Not a thing to do with aircraft, but I get the boat out a long way and switched the transmitter off. It came to a halt and floated around for about 30 minutes while I took photographs. As soon as my tx was switched on, it regained control instantly and that's it. They work as they are supposed to and I want nothing more. I even tried going into range check and got well over 100ft. Remember all this was over the dreaded water.
I've mentioned it before, but if you only use the conventional REM and Ail, then there's no need to put in an expensive 7 or 9 channel receiver.
My pet gripe at the moment :-
There are too many people using half-baked thoughts and rumours. It happened on 27mhz when super-regen came in, crystal control, sunspots, an 'R' in the month etc.were all supposed to cause problems. 35mhz here in the UK also was reputed to be a problem on certain frequencies and conditions. No proof or demonstrations showed any such thing in my experience. Am I lucky in that I don't have radio problems and have not had any since I started in the early 1960s? I don't think so. There are unexplained crashes - mine are due to pilot error mainly, and pushing the limits on occasions with flattening batteries.
2.4 seems to be repeating the 'here be dragons' syndrome. The only thing this time is that there don't seem to be any dragons around.
12-26-2008, 11:57 PM
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Originally Posted by firemanbill
How many larger models are really "4" channel?
This one is 80"
and this one 72"
and this one 60"
A lot of big models still only use 4 channels.
This one is 80"
and this one 72"
and this one 60"
A lot of big models still only use 4 channels.
bill, that cub with flapperon mixing will fly even nicer since you can dial in some differential on the ailerons which cubs love.
12-27-2008, 10:48 AM
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RI - "Well, number five is for; camera control, what else?" - Of course it is. That's why I never got to do air-to-air/ground photography with my Hitec 5channel gear on 35mhz - the channels were REMT and ch 6 - I didn't have ch5 on those receivers!
12-31-2008, 03:35 AM
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Point of clarification. As a previous post said, the scond aileron socket is basically in parallel with the first. Thus, you do not get aileron differential, etc. as a second aileron channel is not recognized, unlike a 6100, for instance.
Anyway, I've got a 500 in a in Mini Extra and it seems good
.
John C
Anyway, I've got a 500 in a in Mini Extra and it seems good
.John C
01-11-2009, 12:23 AM
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so what do you think is better for a flat out foamie, the AR500 or the AR6100. I just got a AR500 for one of my planes, and it looks so much better built that I am really considering putting it on the 3d foamie, vice the WD4 that I bought it for. It already has 2 aileron ports and the longer diversity antenna gives me a warm fuzy, the drawback of course on a 14oz foamie is that the AR500 does wieght 2x as much.
also, can the gear channel be setup as the Aux channel on the AR6100, thus allowing differential ailerons?
also, can the gear channel be setup as the Aux channel on the AR6100, thus allowing differential ailerons?
01-11-2009, 01:42 AM
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Originally Posted by meesier42
so what do you think is better for a flat out foamie, the AR500 or the AR6100. I just got a AR500 for one of my planes, and it looks so much better built that I am really considering putting it on the 3d foamie, vice the WD4 that I bought it for. It already has 2 aileron ports and the longer diversity antenna gives me a warm fuzy, the drawback of course on a 14oz foamie is that the AR500 does wieght 2x as much.
also, can the gear channel be setup as the Aux channel on the AR6100, thus allowing differential ailerons?
also, can the gear channel be setup as the Aux channel on the AR6100, thus allowing differential ailerons?
on a 3d foamie, lighter is better and if you're using dual aileron servo's, you'll want flapperon mixing to be able to set up differential and i dont think that can be done on the ar500 since the second aileron channel is essentially "y'd" to the first. i'd go with the ar6100 myself.
01-11-2009, 05:47 AM
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I agree with Yaniel, lighter is better on a foamy. Plus the AR6100E has end plugs which makes the installation look neater in some cases. You don't need the longer antenna that the AR500 has on a small flat out foamie.
04-05-2009, 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Yaniel
on a 3d foamie, lighter is better and if you're using dual aileron servo's, you'll want flapperon mixing to be able to set up differential and i dont think that can be done on the ar500 since the second aileron channel is essentially "y'd" to the first. i'd go with the ar6100 myself.
04-05-2009, 11:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Buck Rogers
Yeah, this new receiver is completely pointless. In the UK the I can buy an AR6100e for the same price as the AR500 - so what's the point? I'll be going for the 6100e
04-24-2009, 05:09 PM
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Huffy01,
Yes, the DX5e has elevon mixing but it has a big limitation. The reversing switches reverse the mixer inputs, not the outputs, so if both servos go in different directions when you move the elevator control, there's no way to fix it on the transmitter - whichever way you set the two reversing switches for that stick, the servos still go in opposite directions.
I want to use a DX5e with Parkzone Vapor bricks, but that's what happens, so I can't use elevon mixing unless I have control horns on opposite sides (one above the tail and one below), which makes it very hard to get equal throws, and set differential mechanically.
I've been looking for a mod for the DX5e to correct it, without any luck so far.
Yes, the DX5e has elevon mixing but it has a big limitation. The reversing switches reverse the mixer inputs, not the outputs, so if both servos go in different directions when you move the elevator control, there's no way to fix it on the transmitter - whichever way you set the two reversing switches for that stick, the servos still go in opposite directions.
I want to use a DX5e with Parkzone Vapor bricks, but that's what happens, so I can't use elevon mixing unless I have control horns on opposite sides (one above the tail and one below), which makes it very hard to get equal throws, and set differential mechanically.
I've been looking for a mod for the DX5e to correct it, without any luck so far.
04-24-2009, 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Tony Oliver
I really got them for simple slopers and electric sailplanes (and, whisper it, 'boat') use.
04-24-2009, 05:53 PM
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I only have the DX5e and AR500 because it came with the RTF Parkzone Radian.
I was thinking of upgrading to DX6 but when I went to the hobby store as soon as I said "DX6" The owner thought it was a waste of time and said he could sell me just the transmitter for the same price as the DX6 with the receiver.
He take's out the servo's which are worth $200 plus when sold on there own.
It's all I need for the moment. Just bind it with the AR500 and I'm off too a good start.
"Andy2No" I was just going through the DX5e manual. mine has a note at the bottom of the page that tell's to swap the servo's wire's around if reversing switches do not achieve the right direction. hope it help's
I was thinking of upgrading to DX6 but when I went to the hobby store as soon as I said "DX6" The owner thought it was a waste of time and said he could sell me just the transmitter for the same price as the DX6 with the receiver.
He take's out the servo's which are worth $200 plus when sold on there own.
It's all I need for the moment. Just bind it with the AR500 and I'm off too a good start.
"Andy2No" I was just going through the DX5e manual. mine has a note at the bottom of the page that tell's to swap the servo's wire's around if reversing switches do not achieve the right direction. hope it help's
04-24-2009, 08:23 PM
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Huffy01,
Yes, I read that too It certainly doesn't help with a Vapor brick because the servos are soldered to the board. I don't see how it would help with a normal receiver and servos in a plane either. You often have to swap servo cables over to set up elevons, but if they're moving in opposition to each other when you move the elevator control, that doesn't help anyway.
They just didn't think the elevon mixing through, unfortunately.
Yes, I read that too
It certainly doesn't help with a Vapor brick because the servos are soldered to the board. I don't see how it would help with a normal receiver and servos in a plane either. You often have to swap servo cables over to set up elevons, but if they're moving in opposition to each other when you move the elevator control, that doesn't help anyway.They just didn't think the elevon mixing through, unfortunately.
