A Slow Stick post for the Slow Stick fans
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Love it here on the west coast of Florida. We live a LOT closer to the flying field. 15 min v/s 45. Keep an eye out for wingo kits for me. Getting ready to go to SEFF in 2 1/2 weeks. Surrounded by flying clubs. Getting 2 DX6's to take the fqcy pin worries away. Getting the shop in shape, about 1/2 the room I had in MD. drop me a line at......

PS: I'd suggest you remove your e-mail address from the post. Some that have trolled in from the other site might, just might use it for nefarious purposes. It happened to me several times when I was critical of the failures of one of their pet products over there. The trolls followed me here.

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#31

Yep, they're plenty big. I don't know how much difference there will be with full tips like you have tho, since I cut my tips off and took some out of the middle as well. My wingspan is 31.5", as compared to the stock 45" or so.
#33

yeah I'm sure my roll rate won't be as fast but neither are my eyes anymore...lol
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Jumping back to the start of this thread - the motors linked to will not be very compatible with a SS. They want to turn a small prop (8") compared to what the SS really likes (11").
The same line is available with a lower KV wind: BM2410-09Y claiming 11x4.7 prop gets you up to 21.5 ozs. at less than 10 amps.
I don't think it really makes that much thrust in the real world, but with 3 cell lipo's it's a decent kick in the butt.
I used the 09Y's for my GWS Beaver (with snow skis) and for a project I named SloP38Stik. These are pics before I added the outrunners and a boom profiles (I just couldn't pass up a chance for "Look at mine! Look at mine!").
It was barely flyable with a pair of stock 350's but the little outrunners pull it around ok. All up its 26 ounces - more power would be wonderful, but I was trying to keep the cost down.
It has ailerons w/2 HS55's and lot's of control throw, but rolls are slow and eat up a lot of altitude.
The same line is available with a lower KV wind: BM2410-09Y claiming 11x4.7 prop gets you up to 21.5 ozs. at less than 10 amps.
I don't think it really makes that much thrust in the real world, but with 3 cell lipo's it's a decent kick in the butt.
I used the 09Y's for my GWS Beaver (with snow skis) and for a project I named SloP38Stik. These are pics before I added the outrunners and a boom profiles (I just couldn't pass up a chance for "Look at mine! Look at mine!").
It was barely flyable with a pair of stock 350's but the little outrunners pull it around ok. All up its 26 ounces - more power would be wonderful, but I was trying to keep the cost down.
It has ailerons w/2 HS55's and lot's of control throw, but rolls are slow and eat up a lot of altitude.
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Jumping back to the start of this thread - the motors linked to will not be very compatible with a SS. They want to turn a small prop (8") compared to what the SS really likes (11").
The same line is available with a lower KV wind: BM2410-09Y claiming 11x4.7 prop gets you up to 21.5 ozs. at less than 10 amps.
I don't think it really makes that much thrust in the real world, but with 3 cell lipo's it's a decent kick in the butt.
I used the 09Y's for my GWS Beaver (with snow skis) and for a project I named SloP38Stik. These are pics before I added the outrunners and a boom profiles (I just couldn't pass up a chance for "Look at mine! Look at mine!").
It was barely flyable with a pair of stock 350's but the little outrunners pull it around ok. All up its 26 ounces - more power would be wonderful, but I was trying to keep the cost down.
It has ailerons w/2 HS55's and lot's of control throw, but rolls are slow and eat up a lot of altitude.
The same line is available with a lower KV wind: BM2410-09Y claiming 11x4.7 prop gets you up to 21.5 ozs. at less than 10 amps.
I don't think it really makes that much thrust in the real world, but with 3 cell lipo's it's a decent kick in the butt.
I used the 09Y's for my GWS Beaver (with snow skis) and for a project I named SloP38Stik. These are pics before I added the outrunners and a boom profiles (I just couldn't pass up a chance for "Look at mine! Look at mine!").
It was barely flyable with a pair of stock 350's but the little outrunners pull it around ok. All up its 26 ounces - more power would be wonderful, but I was trying to keep the cost down.
It has ailerons w/2 HS55's and lot's of control throw, but rolls are slow and eat up a lot of altitude.
Why does the SS need an 11" prop ? This motor is more powerful even if it only swings an 8x4 ?
It seems that quite a few other people use the same motor that I have suggested.
Your model looks pretty cool. I'm sure that there are many other cool things that people can add to this thread. For example, other mods such as aerial photography, bomb bays, etc.
Last edited by netdudeuk; 04-17-2006 at 11:27 PM.
#40

Yours looks neat, too. FYI, my thickness 1.5". I'm pretty sure yours will be a bit thicker. I think you're really gonna like the wing. My slows down very fast (Drag), which makes similar to the stock SS, in that you can still set it down in a small area, even though it lands just a "tad" faster.
In fact, my flies very much like a Stock SS, it just doesn't soar nearly as well.
Oh, being light and now a straight (no dyhedral) wing, it really gets bounced around in the wind, but also being light, you can bring right back on course.
I remember Don Lowe once said, light is still better. His reasoning was and I agree, "True, a lighter machine is more easily blown off course, but because it's lighter it also takes less energy (control input) to bring it back on course".
Tell me how you like the setup.
PS...... I mentioned even with the new wing, mine still had no tip stall characteristics, let me know if yours reacts the same.....
#41

I'm at 1.75 thick looks like you have a tad more aileron but I think I'll be ok with my setup
It's a prototype but my prototypes either get recycled or find a spot in the hanger never do get around to building the secound one for some reason
It's a prototype but my prototypes either get recycled or find a spot in the hanger never do get around to building the secound one for some reason
#42

My brother is gonna cut another wing for me with a double taper, like a yak (etc.). I'm hoping is will cut down on the wiggling back and forth in the wind.
#44

I was so thinking about your speed stick when I read that comment about the wings! :p
Pat
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[quote=netdudeuk;63027]I don't see that motor over here. Will the one that I suggested not make any difference with an 8x4 compared with the 300 ? I think that the SS is pretty cool but it could be less 'slow' and this seemed to be a cheapish upgrade. I have a spare motor from my Edge 540T but the price of another motor and 30A/40A ESC is only a little more than the cost of the ESC on its own.
Why does the SS need an 11" prop ? This motor is more powerful even if it only swings an 8x4 ?
Big, fluffy slowflyers with undercambered wings prefer a large blade taking small bites of air (lower pitch) with a motor that produces best torque at lower RPM.
Sleek, slippery fast planes (like The Edge) develop best speed with small props on motors that spin at high RPM.
Think of it like a big wood rowboat compared to a kayak and the oars are like propellers...does that make sense?
Any inrunner motor can have it's torque maximized at lower RPM with gear reduction. Outrunners usually depend on number of windings to determine most efficient torque/rpm/amp characteristics.
Well, that's what I've been told anyway, and it's matched up to my experiences so far - but I'm sure there are other points of view on this.
BTW- I got my 09Y from www.aero-nuts.com
Why does the SS need an 11" prop ? This motor is more powerful even if it only swings an 8x4 ?
Big, fluffy slowflyers with undercambered wings prefer a large blade taking small bites of air (lower pitch) with a motor that produces best torque at lower RPM.
Sleek, slippery fast planes (like The Edge) develop best speed with small props on motors that spin at high RPM.
Think of it like a big wood rowboat compared to a kayak and the oars are like propellers...does that make sense?
Any inrunner motor can have it's torque maximized at lower RPM with gear reduction. Outrunners usually depend on number of windings to determine most efficient torque/rpm/amp characteristics.
Well, that's what I've been told anyway, and it's matched up to my experiences so far - but I'm sure there are other points of view on this.
BTW- I got my 09Y from www.aero-nuts.com
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Big, fluffy slowflyers with undercambered wings prefer a large blade taking small bites of air (lower pitch) with a motor that produces best torque at lower RPM.
Sleek, slippery fast planes (like The Edge) develop best speed with small props on motors that spin at high RPM.
Think of it like a big wood rowboat compared to a kayak and the oars are like propellers...does that make sense?
Any inrunner motor can have it's torque maximized at lower RPM with gear reduction. Outrunners usually depend on number of windings to determine most efficient torque/rpm/amp characteristics.
Well, that's what I've been told anyway, and it's matched up to my experiences so far - but I'm sure there are other points of view on this.
BTW- I got my 09Y from www.aero-nuts.com
Sleek, slippery fast planes (like The Edge) develop best speed with small props on motors that spin at high RPM.
Think of it like a big wood rowboat compared to a kayak and the oars are like propellers...does that make sense?
Any inrunner motor can have it's torque maximized at lower RPM with gear reduction. Outrunners usually depend on number of windings to determine most efficient torque/rpm/amp characteristics.
Well, that's what I've been told anyway, and it's matched up to my experiences so far - but I'm sure there are other points of view on this.
BTW- I got my 09Y from www.aero-nuts.com

Pat