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Old 01-21-2007, 02:52 AM
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I purchased a "replacement airframe" Parkzone FW190 a few weeks ago and finally had a chance to fly today. The "replacement airframe" BTW is just that: a replacement airframe, with no radio, receiver, servos, ESC or battery. It does include the spinner, 2 props, pushrods, and the brushed motor/gearbox.

My first handlaunch could have been a disaster. Upon launch it wanted to climb at a very steep angle. Fortunately, the stock motor was strong enough to pull out at least until I could get my hand on the elevator. I really thought I had that elevator set to neutral! I couldn't put enough trim in through the radio for level flight so I brought her in and made the necessary adjustments. A little bit of down trim and all was good.

I must say that I am pleased with the stock motor's performance. It flies nicely at a bit more than half throttle...of course if I tried to turn too sharp at that speed it wanted to stall. At full throttle it moves pretty quick...of course my opinion may change as I have only flown my Tigermoth in the last month. I'll see how it compares to my Brushless Park 480 powered P-47 soon...I hope.

Here's my set-up:
Stock Motor/Gearbox
GWS 480li ESC
DN Power 2150mah 15C 3s Lipo
2 GWS Naro Pro Servos
Hitec O5s receiver
All up weight: 26.2 Ounces 742 grams
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Old 01-21-2007, 04:26 PM
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you mean your first hand lanuch went something like this too.


Click here to watch Fw190-first-flight

Alot of fun to fly this plane i really enjoy it the only problem i have with my setup is it makes almost no noise when it is in the air, which makes it hard to tell when it's low on power; landing this plane without juice is alot harder then a stryker.

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Old 01-21-2007, 08:17 PM
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Yup, went pretty much like that. I didn't let it climb out as far as you did...even though I was surprised by the stock power...I don't think it would have that much vertical.

BTW, what is your set-up..brushless motor etc?
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Old 01-21-2007, 08:48 PM
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40a esc
hacker 30A-22s
8x6 prop
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Old 10-04-2008, 04:32 AM
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In the process of converting mine to brushless...

Turnigy C3530-1100
32A ESC
3S 2100 mah 20C (MaxAmps)

DX6i & AR6100, HXT900 servos.

Not yet sure about the prop... I'm thinking a 10x6 ?
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Old 10-04-2008, 05:36 AM
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Looks like a nice and clean installation!

What motor mount did you use?
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Old 10-04-2008, 05:52 AM
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It's a Great Planes small brushless motor mount. Kinda expensive ($15) and a little heavy (1.2 oz.) but seemed like the easiest solution for the adjustment I needed (distance from firewall, down/right thrust)... I tried the spacer method, but didn't really like it...

http://www.toddsmodels.com/product_p/gpmg1250.htm

Hopefully it'll balance ok with a AUW of under 30 oz...
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Old 10-04-2008, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by dk_aero View Post
It's a Great Planes small brushless motor mount. Kinda expensive ($15) and a little heavy (1.2 oz.) but seemed like the easiest solution for the adjustment I needed (distance from firewall, down/right thrust)... I tried the spacer method, but didn't really like it...

http://www.toddsmodels.com/product_p/gpmg1250.htm

Hopefully it'll balance ok with a AUW of under 30 oz...
30 oz seems awfully heavy, the plane will fly but keep up the airspeed when you come in and land. I had my FW190 up to 32oz and it flew fine with the power plant i had in it, however i didn't ding it comming in too slow for a landing. No major damage but it could of been much worse.
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Old 10-04-2008, 10:14 PM
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Using the published weights for motor, battery, mount, esc, etc., I'm "guestimating" that it'll actually come in around 26 oz. (stock published is 28 oz.).

I really need to pick up a scale... more stuff to buy for this hobby <sigh>

Working on the wing now, hopefully have it ready to maiden next weekend...
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Old 10-06-2008, 06:28 AM
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Originally Posted by barmonkey View Post
Yup, went pretty much like that. I didn't let it climb out as far as you did...even though I was surprised by the stock power...I don't think it would have that much vertical.

BTW, what is your set-up..brushless motor etc?

I was impressed with the stock power on this bird as well. I as yet to fly mine on high rate controls for aerobatics, but still flies great. I set my low rate elevator control to the middle hole on the control horn and works great! I was prepared for a fast landing speed, but was surprised that I didn't need to burn in down to the ground.
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Old 10-06-2008, 06:41 AM
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An update to my story would include: I really need to upgrade to brushless!

Back this past Spring, I was flying in some fairly stiff wind. The plane really struggled into the wind...I actually had a tough time trying to get it to turn. When I managed to get it to turn, the speed was so low that it tip stalled. It landed safely...on top of a 30' tree.
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Old 10-06-2008, 03:47 PM
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Mine weighs 26oz with an AXI 2212/20 and a 2100mah TP lipo. What are you doing to your wing? I'm also working on a new wing for mine with Dubro nylon aileron hinges and carbon fiber reinforcement.

Originally Posted by dk_aero View Post
Using the published weights for motor, battery, mount, esc, etc., I'm "guestimating" that it'll actually come in around 26 oz. (stock published is 28 oz.).

I really need to pick up a scale... more stuff to buy for this hobby <sigh>

Working on the wing now, hopefully have it ready to maiden next weekend...
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Old 10-07-2008, 04:09 AM
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Gohmer,
Installed carbon fiber tube...

http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin...?&I=LXKAE9&P=C

And replaced servo with HXT-900.
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Old 01-12-2009, 06:26 AM
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Thumbs up Finally got around to the maiden

Well, finally got around to a maiden flight on the modified FW190. Must say I was very pleased and she flew just fine.
Difference was night and day compared to the original stock brushed motor/NiMh setup. Peak current draw (static) with the stock 10x8 prop was approx. 28A.

It's now my favorite...
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Old 01-19-2009, 05:50 AM
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Well I finally got to fly my brushless 190 today, the winds were howling at around 25 mph but the plane didnt seem to mind one bit!! It flew great.
I modified it with a Turnigy 35-42 1100 kv motor turning an APC 10x7 prop, 40 amp supersimple esc, a 2200 3 cell lipo, a one piece carbon fiber rod in the wing, and a servo for each aileron as well as a new servo for the elevator. This planes hauls pretty good now!!!
Let me see if I can attach a couple of photos
(And NO, I didnt hit the BIG lightpole... I was at a softball field)
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Old 01-19-2009, 06:53 AM
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what an awesome airframe that thing looks great in the air, maybe after I kill a few more planes.... I will be up to it
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Old 01-20-2009, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by R6_Infantry View Post
what an awesome airframe that thing looks great in the air, maybe after I kill a few more planes.... I will be up to it
Yep, every 190 I've ever flown has always been rock solid with no bad habits. Even the Guillows 190 flys reasonably well, for a small, heavy plane.
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Old 01-20-2009, 07:06 PM
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my only complaint is that darn battery cover...

I'd have to do something about that.
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Old 01-20-2009, 07:42 PM
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Mine seems to work real well. I have to shove the battery in until it hits the cowl, but that is because of the light weight motor. What's wrong with yours?

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my only complaint is that darn battery cover...

I'd have to do something about that.
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Old 01-20-2009, 07:57 PM
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I don't have one yet...

I just don't like the looks of it, just sitting on top of the fuse like that.
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Old 01-20-2009, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyingMonkey View Post
my only complaint is that darn battery cover...

I'd have to do something about that.
The high speed wind holds it down!! LOL Ive had no problems with it yet.
John
I was sorta worried about the weight of the plane after adding the aluminum Eflite motor mount and all, but it was worry for nothing. The plane literally took off out of my flying buddy's hand last Sunday it it was GONE!!
Now to find some spits and mustangs to pounch on!! The aforementioned flying buddy has the spit in the stock geared brushless setup.. but I think he's gonna wise up soon and go brushless. Maybe we can do some dogfighting this weekend if the weather is good.
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Old 01-21-2009, 12:12 AM
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Yep, the battery cover isn't the most aesthetic, but it gets the job done... and not really noticeable in the air.

I was worried about the weight of mine also, with the Great Planes motor mount. The CG came out right on the money tho'... Turned out to be a really nice flyer and I'm quite pleased...
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Old 01-23-2009, 02:57 AM
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http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=066_1232643827

cool FW190 video
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Old 01-23-2009, 03:28 AM
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Originally Posted by DetroitHawk View Post
"Found 1989 east of St. Petersburg, now in US being restored. On July 1943 mission the engine quit, pilot Sgt. Paul Ratz bellied in, spent time as POW. He passed on around time his plane was found. During restoration dirt was found in a oil line causing reduced flow & overheating."
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Originally Posted by FlyingMonkey View Post
"Found 1989 east of St. Petersburg, now in US being restored. On July 1943 mission the engine quit, pilot Sgt. Paul Ratz bellied in, spent time as POW. He passed on around time his plane was found. During restoration dirt was found in a oil line causing reduced flow & overheating."

What is amazing about that is a german that made it out of a POW camp.
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