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Old 10-23-2018, 03:27 PM
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My 1973 Ford Ranchero Came back to me Its been in the Family for 45 Years, my father used it for the Last 35 Years LOL, I used it, My Younger sister used it, then my Father used it for the last 35 years, He Loved that Ranchero, I could not Pry it away from him for the last 35 years bless his heart My Father is 91 years young now, and his eyes do not allow him to drive anymore.
So, Here is what I am Doing in SECRET I am Turning it into a Hot Rod I am Overhauling the Engine, it has well over 300,000 miles on the original engine and the heads have never been off the engine.
I am having the Engine bored out .030 so it will now be a 306 ci rather than a 302 ci V8, its getting Flat top Pistons for a Compression Ratio of 10 to 1
its getting a Howard High Performance Cam, 267 Duration and .459 Lift on both int and Exh Valves, low and mid range torque, Swapping out the 2bbl carb and manifold for a 4bb carb and manifold from a 1968 Mustang GT 350,
Estimated HP will be Around 275 + or - and a B&M 2500 RPM Stall Speed torque Converter and 3:73 limit slip Diff. I Think this will be my last Hot Rod for a while I am Still a Teenager at Heart I want to get this Build done as soon as possible and give my Father a Ride in it I am getting all the Parts together right now, and I am Going to Teach my Grand son who just turned 18 how to build a Engine, as most people know, i am a Retired Female Fleet Equipment Mechanic with over 38 years of experience, yea, I am a Tom Boy, But I can be a Girly Girl too when I want to Be I will post Pics of the Build with my Grandson, Know what , I think my Grand son might Inherit this Ride in the Near Future
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Cool vehicles, but one could find a turbo 911 Porsche and smoke those rides. Seems like a lot of work to make a vehicle "fast". As I said they are cool rides, but for a road ripping canyon carver, cant beat a Porschahhhhh….
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Rock on Chellie ...

Reminds me of my young free and single days ...

I had a 2.0ltr JPS Capri S in UK .... which was factory fitted with rally spec gas shocks, brakes etc. Out of factory about the 110hp mark.
It was UK's answer to the Mustang ... but 'tamed down' ... The biggest problem was Ford UK imported the Pinto 2 ltr engine which was notoriously hard to tune.



That's a 3ltr version noted by the twin exhausts ... but same black and gold livery. A very smart looking machine.

Once it fell out of its warranty - the following mods were made :

4 in line branch exhaust manifold from RS Escort
270 high lift valves and cams
4 Air ram Weber Carburettors
RPM limiter removed
Uprated no-bounce breaker points in distributor
Forced air ducting to Weber bell mouths
Inlet / outlet ports machined and cleaned

Final was for Night Time Club racing and she rolling road tested out at over 200HP at the wheels.

Sadly my race days were short lived as I had an incident that led to being in Court (DUI) and Race licence was revoked.

The car actually led to my first marriage !!

Young and silly !!

But Boy would I love to have that car again. Rear wheel drive with no fancy gimmicks between you as driver and those wheels !!

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Gotta love to old rides. So much easier to work on!

My toys, a 1963 Ford Fairlane that my Grandfather bought new. My '71 Ghia that was a gift from a dear friend who has since passed away. And the Porsche, we actually just traded it for a really nice boat.

I am going to pick up a 1956 oval window VW Beetle and 64 Beetle convertible this weekend.

Keep 'em alive Chellie!
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Originally Posted by CHELLIE View Post
My 1973 Ford Ranchero Came back to me Its been in the Family for 45 Years, my father used it for the Last 35 Years LOL, I used it, My Younger sister used it, then my Father used it for the last 35 years, He Loved that Ranchero, I could not Pry it away from him for the last 35 years bless his heart My Father is 91 years young now, and his eyes do not allow him to drive anymore.
So, Here is what I am Doing in SECRET I am Turning it into a Hot Rod I am Overhauling the Engine, it has well over 300,000 miles on the original engine and the heads have never been off the engine.
I am having the Engine bored out .030 so it will now be a 306 ci rather than a 302 ci V8, its getting Flat top Pistons for a Compression Ratio of 10 to 1
its getting a Howard High Performance Cam, 267 Duration and .459 Lift on both int and Exh Valves, low and mid range torque, Swapping out the 2bbl carb and manifold for a 4bb carb and manifold from a 1968 Mustang GT 350,
Estimated HP will be Around 275 + or - and a B&M 2500 RPM Stall Speed torque Converter and 3:73 limit slip Diff. I Think this will be my last Hot Rod for a while I am Still a Teenager at Heart I want to get this Build done as soon as possible and give my Father a Ride in it I am getting all the Parts together right now, and I am Going to Teach my Grand son who just turned 18 how to build a Engine, as most people know, i am a Retired Female Fleet Equipment Mechanic with over 38 years of experience, yea, I am a Tom Boy, But I can be a Girly Girl too when I want to Be I will post Pics of the Build with my Grandson, Know what , I think my Grand son might Inherit this Ride in the Near Future
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I'll betcha a couple of cold frosty Pilsners that what you've described as engine mods to that older 302 will get you more than 300 BHP......I doubt you'll lose much to the rear wheels with the C4 and a better (Jegs) torque converter if set-up with a hotter electronic ignition (more reliable) and stripped of everything but the power steering pump and power brakes.......also consider an exhaust mod behind the manifold (and cat-back) like pipe size increase and Magna Flow mufflers........The cost for such minor mod's won't break the bank, fairly easy to install and make for a much more reliable ride.....add in the head-thrown-back element as well.......!

If you've got a little more disposable cash laying around, it wouldn't hurt to convert the drum brakes to disk (I believe that year came 5 bolt lug) and throw some coil-overs, sway-bars & springs on her as well.........the difference in the ride and (foot to floor) handling will amaze you....especially for a 1973 Ranchero with over 300hp. Otherwise she'll be one squirrelly rascal and a beast to slow down.....lol

I've mentioned here at WF a few years back, my son and I have restored and modified a 1972 Merc Comet, 1975 Ranchero and a 1975 Merc Cougar (351 Cleveland).........all of these models have parts galore for very reasonable prices......in many cases Ford Mustang parts of the same vintages are interchangeable and even easier to replace........................Just a thought for adding a little bit more safety and excitement to an awesome Ranchero package.
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Cool vehicles, but one could find a turbo 911 Porsche and smoke those rides. Seems like a lot of work to make a vehicle "fast". As I said they are cool rides, but for a road ripping canyon carver, cant beat a Porschahhhhh….
Yea Those are a nice ride, But Big Bucks too Back in the Day, I was driving back from Lake Tahoe and a 914 Porch wanted to race me, OK, its on we were neck and neck and i was slowly pulling him, his friend in the Pass seat was pointing at my Ranchero and Laughing his Buns off because i was beating him we were doing 125MPH plus, all I did to the Ranchero was to Jet the carb a little and i had a Mallory Duel point dist in it
I have to Rebuild the Engine anyway, so why not Hop it up a Little

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Rock on Chellie ...

Reminds me of my young free and single days ...

I had a 2.0ltr JPS Capri S in UK .... which was factory fitted with rally spec gas shocks, brakes etc. Out of factory about the 110hp mark.
It was UK's answer to the Mustang ... but 'tamed down' ... The biggest problem was Ford UK imported the Pinto 2 ltr engine which was notoriously hard to tune.



That's a 3ltr version noted by the twin exhausts ... but same black and gold livery. A very smart looking machine.

Once it fell out of its warranty - the following mods were made :

4 in line branch exhaust manifold from RS Escort
270 high lift valves and cams
4 Air ram Weber Carburettors
RPM limiter removed
Uprated no-bounce breaker points in distributor
Forced air ducting to Weber bell mouths
Inlet / outlet ports machined and cleaned

Final was for Night Time Club racing and she rolling road tested out at over 200HP at the wheels.

Sadly my race days were short lived as I had an incident that led to being in Court (DUI) and Race licence was revoked.

The car actually led to my first marriage !!

Young and silly !!

But Boy would I love to have that car again. Rear wheel drive with no fancy gimmicks between you as driver and those wheels !!

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Cool, Thats a nice Ride Nigel
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Gotta love to old rides. So much easier to work on!

My toys, a 1963 Ford Fairlane that my Grandfather bought new. My '71 Ghia that was a gift from a dear friend who has since passed away. And the Porsche, we actually just traded it for a really nice boat.

I am going to pick up a 1956 oval window VW Beetle and 64 Beetle convertible this weekend.

Keep 'em alive Chellie!
Cool Those are some nice Rides Bill Keep those Oldie but Goodies Alive
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Chellie......

I'll betcha a couple of cold frosty Pilsners that what you've described as engine mods to that older 302 will get you more than 300 BHP......I doubt you'll lose much to the rear wheels with the C4 and a better (Jegs) torque converter if set-up with a hotter electronic ignition (more reliable) and stripped of everything but the power steering pump and power brakes.......also consider an exhaust mod behind the manifold (and cat-back) like pipe size increase and Magna Flow mufflers........The cost for such minor mod's won't break the bank, fairly easy to install and make for a much more reliable ride.....add in the head-thrown-back element as well.......!

If you've got a little more disposable cash laying around, it wouldn't hurt to convert the drum brakes to disk (I believe that year came 5 bolt lug) and throw some coil-overs, sway-bars & springs on her as well.........the difference in the ride and (foot to floor) handling will amaze you....especially for a 1973 Ranchero with over 300hp. Otherwise she'll be one squirrelly rascal and a beast to slow down.....lol

I've mentioned here at WF a few years back, my son and I have restored and modified a 1972 Merc Comet, 1975 Ranchero and a 1975 Merc Cougar (351 Cleveland).........all of these models have parts galore for very reasonable prices......in many cases Ford Mustang parts of the same vintages are interchangeable and even easier to replace........................Just a thought for adding a little bit more safety and excitement to an awesome Ranchero package.
Great Ideas the Ranchero Has duel Exhaust with 2 1/4" Pipes and a 2 1/4 Turbo Mufflers, I am using a mild cam to keep the Vacuum up for the Power Brakes, I like the idea of adding rear Disc Brakes, Thats something to think about, for sure for sure I looked at the Specs of a Shelby Cobra J Engine, and its very close to that the heads are 58cc Thats good enough for my Budget Build.
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When i was High school, My Father Let me use his 1955 Ford F100 Custom cab Truck, It had a 239 Y Block engine and a Ford o Matic auto Trans, The engine was so worn out, that when I was at a Stop Light, I would be Engulfed in a Cloud of Blow by gases I was about 17 at the time, Here is what i did to that Truck I put in a 312 Y Block engine from a T Bird That I overhauled, with a Dempsey 280 Dirt track Cam, I milled the Heads .060 , I found a Edelbrock tri power manifold and 3 stromberg 97 Carbs at the swap meet and I found some headers for it too at the Swap meet, put in some 2 1/4" turbo mufflers and Duel Exhaust, I removed the auto trans, and put in a 3 speed stick trans with a Hurst shifter on the Floor, it was a fun truck to drive and it Did High 15s in the Quarter mile, I took it out to Irwindale Race way back in the 70s and Raced it 12 times, got beat only twice by a full Race 55 Chevy with a Big Block and a Drag Bike, but i beat a Brand new 440 Dodge magnum, boy that guy was pissed, i beat him twice i races a Ford sunbeam tiger with duel Quad carbs and beat him too, i raced a 650 Yamaha bike and beat him Those were the days I gave the Truck back to my Father, when I bought the Ranchero and when he got in it, He turned into a Teenager again he loved to Light up the Tires The 312 engine that I overhauled lasted 18 Years and was still running great when my dad sold the truck, and then He took over my Ranchero

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Good stuff, now I have a 951, and I call it the giant killer. If a machine spooks me then I know its a keeper. I raced a v-8 newer stang and blew his doors off, ive had a 69 mach 1, with a 3fiddy one Windsor, supped up that didn't spook me like this German car, I raced an 04 or 04 vette, the dude bugged me at a stop light, I yelled no! finally after callin' be a yellow bell hillbilly, im hillbilly but not yella' I gave in and blew his doors off. Now the 951 is cheap compared to the 911, and just as fun. I enclosed a picture of my wheels for fun! If you don't mind I would love to see your awesome rides progress as you do em' love to see before and after photogs! Stick dude1My giant killer, lol!
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I saw that car on wheeler dealers, it looks pretty cool, Ed and Mike did a cool resto. Nice wheels btw....
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I kept mine, and will keep it....
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Pal of mine is modding a VW Golf ... one of the original square box versions. It had a standard 1.9 TDi engine .... basically the Audi lump.

With high pressure Turbo, Volvo 2.5 Injectors and a host of other parts such as intercooler system from BMW etc. - its tested out at 200HP ...

A ******* 1.9 diesel !!

I thought he was joking when he mentioned it .. then I got to see it.

It will be certified Street Legal.

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Awesome! Anyone can make a v-8 scream and burn rubber, which is cool, but making a smaller engine run is indeed awesome. We call em' sleepers. Pull up to one at a stop light, and get ready to be embaressed…..
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My mod'd XC70 Volvo (gasoline 2.5) surprises the BMW boys when it launches of at the lights ..
Very simple mod ... guy who had it before me asked Volvo to retune to T5 spec ... later I cut out the middle exhaust box to let her breathe easier.

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They say remove the Cataletic converter for more power on old cars, but I want to keep smog down, I bought a performance magnaflow cat and put it on my ride for more juice and keeping the air clean too. Volvo's can rock if one sets em' up right. I cant stand bimmer driver round these parts, they are rude and obnoxious. I get it bimmer dude, your powerful 4 door taxi can smoke a vette, funny thing when your 4 door taxi bimmer looses value it goes down the toilette, the two door sports car will always retain its value or become more valueable. <Sorry bro, just blowin' off steam, lots o' arrogant bimmer drivers round these parts with stupid alumni bumber stickers on their cars, cutting others off at green lights or green arrows in traffic.
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She still has the Cat box ... that saps 10hp easily.

I too detest Beamer's .... and in winter here - guess what cars are most seen off the road in the 'ditch' ? Yep - Beamers !!

The Volvo 5 cylinder engine was the Audi 5 engine uprated used in the 850 range ... then later Volvo produced their own 5cyl .. for the S and V versions. Its one of those engines that still has a lot of spare headroom for more power. Witness the Polestar version - even without the Hybrid system - awesome machine, but who's going to pay such price ??

Cars ...

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They say remove the Cataletic converter for more power on old cars, but I want to keep smog down, I bought a performance magnaflow cat and put it on my ride for more juice and keeping the air clean too. Volvo's can rock if one sets em' up right. I cant stand bimmer driver round these parts, they are rude and obnoxious. I get it bimmer dude, your powerful 4 door taxi can smoke a vette, funny thing when your 4 door taxi bimmer looses value it goes down the toilette, the two door sports car will always retain its value or become more valueable. <Sorry bro, just blowin' off steam, lots o' arrogant bimmer drivers round these parts with stupid alumni bumber stickers on their cars, cutting others off at green lights or green arrows in traffic.
In the state of Texas......It's Federal Law the governs the removal of any emissions control devices (to include Cat's) that came as original equipment on any registered road vehicle (exclude farm equipment).......to include over 25yr old vehicles......In the event one were to transfer Title of the vehicle, all original equip emission control devices must be in place and functioning properly.......otherwise it's considered "tampering" subject to fine and vehicle impound.......Yes, 25yr or older do not need to be "smog" tested, however, if during the transfer inspection it is discovered "tampering" has been involved, the vehicle may not legally be registered.

The Laws here in good old California are even more restrictive.........more than likely that hyped up Porsche 924.....oh, I meant to say (944 Turbo S-spec) you call a 951 (a Porsche model number, not a manufacturing Specification number).....has a smog/air pump that services both the intake manifold and cat converters. What guys outside of Calif. routinely mod on that model is a by-pass to increase turbo flow. Not that it provides much more HP, but it is more efficient, better gas mileage since the turbo starts spinning at old school (lag) RPM's reducing top end acceleration (even though that 944 was quick for it's time, around the 5sec 0 to 60, but todays turbo's are no match for it, ie Subaru WRX or Mitsubishi EVO's with basically the same engine displacement).......and the by-pass actually keeps the cooling system at a lower temp. reducing the fatal flaw of all older Porsche turbo's......heat and bearing seizure........

Yepper's, I was a "gear-head" long before I got into RC......... back in the day prior to my Detroit mod adventures, I owned (at various) times a 1971 914-6, 1969 912 Carrera, and a 1967 911s. Was a member of PCA and POC for over 10yrs...........even Timed Trialed the 914 for 2yrs. started out in street class, eventually took it off the street and challenged 911's in the mod classes..........fun times......wish I had kept the 911s........it be worth a fortune now when I only paid $6,500.00 for a 6yr old car in show condition with 22K miles..........lol
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Wrx, and Mitsubishi are interesting cars, but 4 doors equals a taxi to most gear heads. My car is a true Porsche, 951 is the designation thats well known. Check the Pelican Parts forum for vehicle specs, 951 owners will let you know whats its all about, It does hook and haul, expecially this one, yeup! As for smog, you might be right, you might be wrong, but my car was designed with it and it will stay that way. Restrictive and strange laws keep us easterners away from Cali anyways. Lol! I sure some folks visit yall on a regular basis, but for me nah...Btw, good to meet ya.....
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Blimey ... guys ... Porsche !

Yes one of the best super cars ever built. But c'mon guys when it comes to Porsche in USA .. they pale against the full spec European model ...

My Capri race machine was actually a purchase because the Insurance Co's refused to cover me when I wanted to buy a jet black 911 3.3 Turbo ... the conversion to race spec was a later decision I must add.

I knew a number of owners who purchased US spec Porsche and every one of them was slow compared to its original European cousin. US spec Porsche were cheap to buy in Europe for that reason ...

As to the 914 ... short-lived mistake on Porsche part .. die-hard Porsche people rarely even mention it !!

924 and its cousin the 944 were in fact rejected by Audi VW for building in the old Karman Ghia works. Porsche being connected to VW Audi, Porsche mistakenly thought they could resurrect the old situation of VW building the budget 924. VW of course said no as the factory would have needed serious modification ... all they agreed to do was to provide support in parts ... bits from K70 (failed VW model) and other VW / Audi models.

I was not a Porsche owner myself - due to that problem of being young and UK Insurance refusing to insure .. but my Brother was and an active member of the Porsche UK Club.

As to Porsche today ? Like most car companys - they are falling into the SUV trap. The 911 has been extended to 4 doors to create the Panamera - what a monstrosity !! The Cayenne has broken the Porsche mould ... Boxer become the budget 924 replacement .. along with the Cayman ...

I must admit though - if I was to look at buying Porsche again ... it would be a close call between the Carrera RS or the Carrera 4 ... or even going back in time to that beast of a car ... the original 3.3 Turbo. And if I did go for that - I would want the Martini racing Colours ...

Or maybe this baby ... now THATS a Porsche !!

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classif...rds=LHD&page=1



I am now sure I am going to be shot at seriously now ... I am donning my Flak Jacket !!

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Right on Nigel! Porsche does rule, American spec porsches are slower than euro ones, but there are hop up shops, wink, wink. The Capri is a cool car! I had a buddy that had one and he souped it up with mag wheels and the whole kit and kaboddle. Porsche is the only brand of true sports can anyone can afford, used or new. Try buying a Ferrari, good luck! Mgb, which I had was a fun car, but on super highways it was too slow. Shame they didn't carry the affordable theme to the newer ones. Good luck affording and maintaining a Jag, I have a 84 xj-6, beautiful machine, and it still has me scratching my head on the split fuel tank issues, gas smells. And ease of access to the water pump and other parts with out removing the hood. Love the Jag. Porsche is the best road handling and funnest<yeup I said funnest sports around. Make sure you have a healthy credit card and have at it..
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I have to say that the new Jag XF 3.0ltr twin turbo diesel is a nice machine and has a decent performance for a diesel - puts most petrol jobs to shame.

Its on my Buy list at moment ...

But first job would be to swap out the brake discs and calipers ... the Jag ones have a reputation of being 'soft' discs and needing replacement too often.

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My 84 jag needs the steering rack boots, and the breaks are spongy? It had a break service a while back, but it gets spooky in traffic when the pedal hit the floor with out any break action. I checked the master cyl. and the booster, so Im thinking the leaky steering rack is spraying steering fluid on the breaks. A service is in its future. I get a lot of compliments on the 951 and the Jag xj-4 expecially in a world of trucks, suv's and little weenie cars. LOL, and the 4 door Dodge charger taxi! LOL Beau and luke would be a laughing!
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Friend of my father used to leave his AC Cobra at our house when he travelled. I always remember that when he used to drive it away - I would stand and watch .... the back of the car jigging up and down ...

Why ? Something that AC didn't advertise ! : The body shell being alloy had a tendency with the torque and axle 'tramp' to crack behind the seats .. it was not unsafe as the main ladder chassis was still A1 ... but the rear boot section used to flex at those cracks. As he said - you keep getting it fixed ... and it happens again ... you get it fixed ... etc. etc.
(The original Chevrolet Corvette had same problem .... )

The start up sequence used to have me amazed ...

Switch on but NOT ignition. Switch on boost fuel pump for 10 seconds to fill carbs. Switch of boost pump. Hit ignition and if she fired up - great. If not - then you may have to switch on manifold heater for a few seconds ... switch off and try again.
The cough and roar as she burst into life inside my fathers garage was unbelievable.

Another family friend had the V12 E-Type ... and is where I found out about the legendary 'hot' footwell. The bulkhead between engine and where your feet were was so thin - your feet could roast while rest of you froze !! He very quickly had a modification done to save his expensive Russel and Bromley handmade shoes !! AND his girlfriends !!

Cars today seem to have lost the quirks and character we enjoyed and moaned about all those years ago.
Literally you see cars today and only by the shape of the lights and name tag can you tell the difference of brands !!

Nigel
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