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Old 12-24-2008, 04:55 AM
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OK, it seems a few of us have ordered these but we've been discussing them on the F-16 thread so I thought I would start a new thread. Mine arrived yesterday. Wow! It is really cool. I haven't had time to fool with it other than take it out of the box, drool on it and put it back. I'll try to get some photos of mine and post them.

Mine came with the retracts installed, Gear doors were installed as well. Flaps and servo were also already mounted. It's got a plastic bag with about 5 pounds of parts in it that I haven't even opened yet. I'm going to make mine a belly flopper since I fly off grass. The retracts don't stand a chance of holding up to rough runways. That will also remove some weight.

I ordered mine without the power system and bought a 70mm aluminum RC Lander fan unit, a HET Typhoon 2W-20 motor, 60 amp ESC, and will be running two 2S 4350 25C packs in series to give me a 4S 4350 25C. I'm really anxious to get this one in the air. If the weather holds out like it has been, I should be able to maiden it in May.

Any one else, feel free to post pictures and build tips of yours here as well.

Here's the paint scheme I bought.
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Old 12-24-2008, 07:58 AM
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Cool!

More pics!

Wait - why did you order the one with the retracts if your going to belly flop it?
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Old 12-24-2008, 02:29 PM
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They don't sell them without the retracts or so I was told when I talked to Richard at EJF.
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Old 12-24-2008, 04:50 PM
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Ah! My mistake. I thought there was a hand launch version available as well, but maybe thats direct from Lander only.
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Old 12-24-2008, 08:00 PM
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I see guys on RCG talking about a hand launch version. Maybe it's available now but it wasn't when I ordered mine back in October.
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Old 12-24-2008, 08:14 PM
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I still dont see the hand launch option listed at EJF either so maybe you have to call it in?

Did yours come with the removable wing? Im still unclear if that is an option from the factory or if it is the new standard or if its just a DIY thing.
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Old 12-25-2008, 03:36 AM
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Peanut gallery signing in!!!

Can't wait to see this one in the air. Are the gear doors heavy duty enough to take a belly flop? There's a couple of us that are talking about laying out some new rolled roofing at the field so the guys with smaller electrics can fly a little easier at the field. The last time we did it, the "runway" held up for almost 4 years till the goofball with the mower thought he'd clear the edges.

Course theirs a bit of self interest there since I really don't want to turn my F-16 into a belly flopper. I know it's cleaner without the fixed gear but it looks really great doing the high alpha final approach and rear main touchdown.
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Old 12-25-2008, 03:53 PM
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I'm almost finished with mine. Need to mount the wing finish up the servos for the Rudder and Elevator. Lots of wires to clean up. All in all a easy build. I just tossed the nose on for the photo its upside down. I'l be sure and get it right when I glue it on. Mike
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Just made the connection Mike. You're Mike2663 on RCG. I'm Hangarqueen over there. Do you have any pictures of the wing mount?

Looks great by the way. I can't wait to get started on mine.
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Old 12-25-2008, 04:05 PM
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Mine is the "glue on". Some of the guys are getting the bolt on. Seems like I could do the conversion that's one of the reason I haven't mounted the wing. There's plenty of room to work on stuff even if you glue it on. I'll make that decision in the morning after I finish up the electronic end. Merry Christmas. Mike
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Mike, I really like the color coordinated can in the mini cooler by the plane. It really sets off the color scheme on the plane.

Tom, be sure to post building pics as you go along!
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Old 12-25-2008, 04:48 PM
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That's my "helper" when I get stuck seems like a cold one and a few mintues away from the project clears things up (or it seems that way). Mike
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Here's a few pictures on the Panther. It's almost a shame to remove all the retracts and gear door covers but I know they won't hold up to the grass strip. I'll probably glue the gear covers in place for looks. I wasn't expecting to have working flaps and gear door covers on this since when I ordered it, they said they weren't part of the basic ARF package. To my surprise, they are on it and all hooked up.
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Old 12-26-2008, 12:32 AM
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hopper,
i know it will add weight, but why not just leave the retracts in, and just leave them up?? at least then you have the option to use them later on, if need be.
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Old 12-26-2008, 01:17 AM
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Grasshopper that is an excellent power system you have chosen
It will outlast the airframe!
I have been flying my 2W-23 on five cells for well over a year now and still going strong
I have heard from a few people flying these rc-lander planes that the retracts are a bit on the weak side unless you fly off a nice paved runway.
I am fortunate enough to fly off a 600 ft long paved runway and just am waiting for reports from you guys
Meanwhile I have my HET 262 to keep me busy!
Keep the pics coming!
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It's lookin pretty good there Tom. I'm curious if the gear doors would hold up if you taped em shut. You would be able to use em later by removing the tape. The fan unit looks really good. What's the weight on the fan unit with the motor installed? I might need to pick one up to offset the weight of the bigger packs I'm gonna have to go to for longer flight times without having to hog out a bunch of foam in my A-7.
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Old 12-26-2008, 06:25 AM
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Originally Posted by iflyrc1012 View Post
hopper,
i know it will add weight, but why not just leave the retracts in, and just leave them up?? at least then you have the option to use them later on, if need be.
I thought about that but I can't see having a runway smooth enough for these retracts any time soon.

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Grasshopper that is an excellent power system you have chosen
It will outlast the airframe!
I have been flying my 2W-23 on five cells for well over a year now and still going strong
I have heard from a few people flying these rc-lander planes that the retracts are a bit on the weak side unless you fly off a nice paved runway.
I am fortunate enough to fly off a 600 ft long paved runway and just am waiting for reports from you guys
Meanwhile I have my HET 262 to keep me busy!
Keep the pics coming!
Thanks USMC. I'm really anxious to try it out.

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It's lookin pretty good there Tom. I'm curious if the gear doors would hold up if you taped em shut. You would be able to use em later by removing the tape. The fan unit looks really good. What's the weight on the fan unit with the motor installed? I might need to pick one up to offset the weight of the bigger packs I'm gonna have to go to for longer flight times without having to hog out a bunch of foam in my A-7.
Hey Roy, I'll figure out some way to fasten the gear doors so they can be used later if needed. The fan unit with the 2W-20 motor weighs 6.8 ounces.

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Old 12-26-2008, 05:24 PM
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After looking at my options I decided to glue the wing on. I figured less weight the better. I'm glad I went with the separate BEC and battery now. I would have had to ad weight to get it to balance. Next the decals and I'm waiting on UPS to bring me a pilot. Taxied it around the kitchen just for grins the dogs hate this one as much as my helicopters go figure. Mike
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Almost there. All I need is my pilot an the rest of the decals. Anyone have any ideas on how to tidy up the airleron wires? I tried some trim sheets from Ultracoat(wont stick). Clear tape looks tacky. There has to be something that will work. Mike
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well that's no good. My delta v fan and eflite motor weighs in at 6.8 oz same as your metal shroud system, won't add any weight to the back that way.
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Old 12-26-2008, 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by miket View Post
Almost there. All I need is my pilot an the rest of the decals. Anyone have any ideas on how to tidy up the airleron wires? I tried some trim sheets from Ultracoat(wont stick). Clear tape looks tacky. There has to be something that will work. Mike
Looks good Mike. I used white duct tape on my T-38 to cover the wires. I know what you mean though wanting to keep this one looking really clean. I've attached a picture of my T-38.



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well that's no good. My delta v fan and eflite motor weighs in at 6.8 oz same as your metal shroud system, won't add any weight to the back that way.
Sorry. Not too often you hear people wanting to add weight to the tail.
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Looks good. Thanks Mike
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Old 12-27-2008, 04:46 AM
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Originally Posted by miket View Post
Almost there. All I need is my pilot an the rest of the decals. Anyone have any ideas on how to tidy up the airleron wires? I tried some trim sheets from Ultracoat(wont stick). Clear tape looks tacky. There has to be something that will work. Mike
For wires under the wing, Blenderm hinge tape sticks well to most surfaces. I have also used a small dab of hot glue here and there to hold stubborn bits in place.

I dont like using tape of any kind inside the plane in the intake areas. Im always paranoid the tape will come loose and get wrapped up in the fan or worse yet allow the wires to get into the fan. I run small zip ties thru the foam sometimes or use hot glue again.
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Old 12-30-2008, 03:11 PM
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Well its finished. The weather here is supposed to be really nice for the rest of the week. I'm really anxious to see how it preforms. I'll check in once the test hop is done. Mike
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Looks great Mike. Good luck with the maiden.
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