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Old 02-03-2018, 07:44 PM   #1
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Default Sig Ryan STA

I've just been gifted...
It's all there with a little hangar rash, everything including plastic parts are just dusty. But I must get some smaller projects out of the way first.
Club member says "...if I give it to you I know it will get built and I'll get to fly it at least once"
He's right!


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ooohhhh! Cool! Will be following your progress on this one.

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Old 02-12-2018, 04:27 AM   #3
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Since the kit had been started by previous owner, I had to find out what was missing or needed attention and or was incorrectly assembled...more on that later.
Did get an inventory and organized the contents...it's a tree in a box...
Looks to be complete though. I think it may have been outside the builders comfort zone as the easy parts got built and they are a little 'off'. But all the plans are there. I'll be making copies of those before I get going also.
The fuselage was not begun.


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I had that kit, but I realized I had more kits than I could possibly build in the rest of my life so I sold it.

The STA is one of my favorites, I will watch your progress.

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I had that kit, but I realized I had more kits than I could possibly build in the rest of my life so I sold it.

The STA is one of my favorites, I will watch your progress.
Thanks! Not sure how it all worked out but I was actually thinking of a PT-19 as an intermediate build before I tackle either a Convair 340 or a Piper PA-46 scratch build. So anyway the Ryan gift fit right in.
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I saw pictures of a STA built for a scale contest.

The cowl opening panels on the real plane are sheet metal curved and held tight with a latch you might use on a box.

This guy hand made the little latches from sheet metal and wire, and the darn things worked!!! The panels were sheet metal, a little thicker than scale because that would have been tin foil.

I had thought of building as a scale competition plane, but after seeing that, I said NO way I am doing that.

I have my dads Proctor Nieuport 28 C1 it is almost ready to cover. I hope to do it extreme scale. There is one at the Airplane museum in Seattle I can copy for details. The Nieuport 28 has surprisingly few little nit-picking details to worry about.

Good luck with your plane
I have talked to Hazel Sigafoose several times at our old model expo. When my mom was in a wheelchair but still wanted to go to the model show, she and hazel talked for hours. My mom's name name was Sigrid, of course shortened to Sig.

Hazel gave her one of the gold Sig lapel pins, I proudly wear it on my jacket.

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Originally Posted by Wildflyer View Post
I saw pictures of a STA built for a scale contest.

The cowl opening panels on the real plane are sheet metal curved and held tight with a latch you might use on a box.

This guy hand made the little latches from sheet metal and wire, and the darn things worked!!! The panels were sheet metal, a little thicker than scale because that would have been tin foil.

I had thought of building as a scale competition plane, but after seeing that, I said NO way I am doing that.

I have my dads Proctor Nieuport 28 C1 it is almost ready to cover. I hope to do it extreme scale. There is one at the Airplane museum in Seattle I can copy for details. The Nieuport 28 has surprisingly few little nit-picking details to worry about.

Good luck with your plane
I have talked to Hazel Sigafoose several times at our old model expo. When my mom was in a wheelchair but still wanted to go to the model show, she and hazel talked for hours. My mom's name name was Sigrid, of course shortened to Sig.

Hazel gave her one of the gold Sig lapel pins, I proudly wear it on my jacket.
You definitely have the coolest mom ever!

I used to design museum exhibits - one of them near you in Tacoma (Wa. State Hist. Soc) which put me in working circles with some elite modelers. I don't care to join their ranks, but I did pick up a lot of various skills and don't mind going to some details but some subjects are just so perfect I would be afraid to fly them. And, as much as I enjoy building I like flying them too. I sure appreciate that level of skill which just boggles the mind.
Ever hear of August Crabtree? He used to come to my shop with his wife and see what I was working on and showed me how he made some of his miniature carving tools. He liked my cases for displays and he was fascinated by airbrush.
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Small world, first 60 years of my life were spent in Tacoma.

No I can not recall August Crabtree, but I had a good friend in High School withe the last name of Crabtree. It would be strange if they were related.

At one of the Expos in Puyallup. there was scale Bellanca Aircruiser, it was astonishing. Covered with what looked to me to be tinfoil gently brushed in one direction, looking like brand new clean aluminum sheet. Every rivet and detail found on the real plane, except for the .40 ci nitro motor. I think the real plane had more than one cylinder.

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This kit has been on my short list of must builds for some time. I can't wait to see how she comes out.

Any flight allowing the reuse of the aircraft is a good flight!
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This kit has been on my short list of must builds for some time. I can't wait to see how she comes out.
Yeah, me too! But I am kinda hurrying to get the other 2 done that are taking up the workspace now. Wasn't expecting anything like that to happen and this will be the biggest build I've done to this point.
Thanks for the shot of confidence and at least I won't have to sweat retracts on this one!
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Yeah, me too! But I am kinda hurrying to get the other 2 done that are taking up the workspace now. Wasn't expecting anything like that to happen and this will be the biggest build I've done to this point.
Thanks for the shot of confidence and at least I won't have to sweat retracts on this one!
It is considered a builder's kit because all the balsa blocks you have to shape. That is typical for the time period in which it was designed. Technology has spoiled us. It's not a kit for someone with an aversion to sanding that's for sure! Take your time and you will have one pretty bird!

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It is considered a builder's kit because all the balsa blocks you have to shape. That is typical for the time period in which it was designed. Technology has spoiled us. It's not a kit for someone with an aversion to sanding that's for sure! Take your time and you will have one pretty bird!
Thanks!

Definitely not afraid of shaping or sanding.
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Now that the Cub got finished, tomorrow the shop gets cleaned and set up to start the Ryan. GF said put her plane on hold and build the Ryan - so, ok!
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Time to get ya’ll caught up, it really is underway.


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Fuse sides sheeted, formers start tomorrow.


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Now it gets interesting...strange build as fuselage gets built from outside in.


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Looking good bud!

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Looking good bud!
Added these after work tonight.


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Makes me want to pull out the Corsair, I have shelved it for the summer flying season and plan to pick back up this coming winter. So many things going on this summer I thought it best to focus more on flying and other things than trying to build.

Keep up the good work, looking great!

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Makes me want to pull out the Corsair, I have shelved it for the summer flying season and plan to pick back up this coming winter. So many things going on this summer I thought it best to focus more on flying and other things than trying to build.

Keep up the good work, looking great!
Got a bit more done tonight! So not only is the fuselage built from outside in, but also bottom to top. Once the bottom is done I can start the plumbing, but there is a lot of work getting the wing saddle finished.


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