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Old 05-27-2006, 04:48 PM
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Anyone done one, heard of one or built one ? Something around 70-100" 4 x speed 400 with gearboxes kind of style...

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Old 05-29-2006, 03:58 AM
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Over on Brand X, there is a Brazilian guy who builds all kinds of seaplanes from white foam and perseverence (I really admire the guy!); if you find some of his threads, he will prove to you that anything is possible including a Sunderland.

Last plan I saw was for a freeflight model with 4 KP00s for power, SO cool.

The Sunderland is one of my all-time favourites. I have a Plaistow poster of NS-Z roaring off on patrol, been hanging over my bnch for years. Imagine my surprise when I went to Hendon and saw NS-Z sitting out front... oh, be still, my beating heart... I must have stood there for 20min, transfixed by the sight.
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Old 05-29-2006, 05:53 AM
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Over on Brand X, there is a Brazilian guy who builds all kinds of seaplanes from white foam and perseverence (I really admire the guy!); if you find some of his threads, he will prove to you that anything is possible including a Sunderland.

Last plan I saw was for a freeflight model with 4 KP00s for power, SO cool.

The Sunderland is one of my all-time favourites. I have a Plaistow poster of NS-Z roaring off on patrol, been hanging over my bnch for years. Imagine my surprise when I went to Hendon and saw NS-Z sitting out front... oh, be still, my beating heart... I must have stood there for 20min, transfixed by the sight.
Hey thanks you for the response !!!!! excuse my stupidity but what and where is Brand X? . If I do find some plans ands start a Sunderland I will be sure to keep you informed if you would like that. !!

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Old 05-29-2006, 06:01 AM
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[email protected], Ivan Pettigrew, of Chilliwack, B.C., has done the Short Solent for 4 GWS 400 drives at about 100", and 4 x 480s at 120". I believe that the Sunderland could be easily bashed from the Solent plans. You can find these at http://www.geocities.com/ivansplans/ . I watched both of these fly today at the Spring Fly-in, Ivan piloting the large one, and another pilot had the other one up at the same time. Great sight!
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Old 05-29-2006, 08:02 PM
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Ah. Sorry, I feel it is only courteous not to advertise other, competitive, sites. I realise that both sites cover basically the same material, but I don't know how site owners react to references to their competitors. I probably have it wrong, it may be that there is a cooperative attitude, but I don't know for sure.

I mean the RCGroups site.

Thanks for the offer, Ray, but I have plenty of plans, either in full print, or in my magazine collection. I know of at least 3 iterations of the Sunderland in various scales.

... ain't she gorgeous? Glad to see her inside now.
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Old 06-19-2006, 11:40 PM
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My Sunderland. Four direct-drive 400/7.2.

Sadly, no suitable water hereabouts, so it has to be hand-launched.

First flown ten years ago. Now going better than ever with lipo power.
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Old 06-20-2006, 03:09 AM
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NICELY done!!!
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Old 06-20-2006, 05:55 AM
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Originally Posted by peterangus View Post
My Sunderland. Four direct-drive 400/7.2.

Sadly, no suitable water hereabouts, so it has to be hand-launched.

First flown ten years ago. Now going better than ever with lipo power.
VERY VERY VERY Nice Peter, THAT is what Im looking for........did you build from plans? and if so could you tell me which ones?

Again lovely model...
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Old 06-20-2006, 10:08 AM
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Awesome!
please post some more details Pete.

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Old 06-20-2006, 01:22 PM
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Some info on my homepage
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Old 06-26-2006, 04:32 AM
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Had a look there Pete & all I can say is - Wow!
Thanks so much for the info.
I plan on doing a Sunderbus next year. Same size/scale.
I hope you don't mind if I ask for some tips later?

Regards - Phil
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Old 06-26-2006, 09:11 AM
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I will examine the possibility of scanning my plans onto A4 [about 20 sheets], and publishing here.
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Old 07-07-2006, 07:28 AM
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I love your work Pete & have put a few mates onto it for a good entertaining read
Thanks - Phil
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Old 07-18-2006, 10:23 PM
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I remember a picture of a model Sunderland attacking a submarine, I think it was on the front cover of a UK model mag.

The interesting thing about it was the angle of one side of the tailplane, something like 60 degrees.

The picture shot was to be a depth charge attack with the Sunderland just above the submarine, with a small explosive charge in the water. Someone must have fired the charge just too early and a bit too powerful, the column of water hit one side of the Sunderlands tail, knocking it up at the angle.

As far as I can remember the Sunderland continued flying and landed ok.

Any other UK modellers remember it?


Edit - Found the model and a picture, look for the water column and bent tail.
link - http://www.airwaveyachts.com.au/Aircraft/Index.html
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Old 07-18-2006, 10:27 PM
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just found a link to a model - http://home.versatel.nl/jan.hermkens...en/Page354.htm
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Funny, Ray, can I use that one?

I'll trade you for... "When in Rome, light Roman candles..."
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Old 08-20-2006, 02:17 PM
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Peter-- Just read through some of your site. Very nice and very interesting. I'm thinking of doing a Short Empire soon.
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Old 12-02-2007, 06:57 PM
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The fire to build a Short seaplane has been rekindled but I'm thinkking Sunderland. I've recently seen a photo of a Catalina in the RN (or is it RAF?) overall dull white with camoflaged topsides. While searching for photos ot that I've come across photos of similarly schemed Sunderlands. I like it. Thinking I'd like to build one. There's a card model kit in 1/33rd scale giving a ws of over 3 feet! The first 3 photos are from a card model site, that's all paper. I'm thinking that it would pretty easily lend itself to Depron construction and small GWS IPS motors.

Peter-- What are the dimensions of your Sunderland? Tried your website but the models index page will not load. (I still plan on doing a Lancaster, possibly this winter time permitting. Thanks for your help on that with regard to airfoils and incidence).

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Old 12-02-2007, 07:32 PM
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Carrera

Sorry about the website. My ISP is doing some maintenance.

The model is 43" long. Span is a slightly overscale 62".

Plans should be ready in a few weeks. I'll let you know.
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Plans aye? Would I be able to scale them to say, 48" span? I'll get in line for that. There's a lake behind my house and I would'nt mind a bit of nautical activity on a clam morning or eve.

Thanks for the info Peter.

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Old 12-08-2007, 03:14 PM
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Peter's site is back up. Here's a direct link to Peter's Sunderland: http://www.peterangus.pwp.blueyonder...sunderland.htm

I can hardly wait for your plans Peter. I'm picking up a second hand Multiplex Cargo as the wing is almost a spot on double for the Sunderland/Empire wing shape.

Just moved the Sunderland (or Empire) up in build que!

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Old 12-12-2007, 05:50 PM
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My Sunderland plans now published on the "other" forum.
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Here is my Sunderland..About a 150 inch span..Its a bit over 12 feet..Weighs about 17 pounds.Power is 4 E-Flite 32 outrunners..
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Old 07-10-2008, 09:32 PM
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Hi Guys,

I'm building a 2.1 meter depron and balsa seagoing Sunderland over on the other channel, RCgroups, link here.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=874268

I would post the build thread here but spend too much time on PC instead of the hobby. Cheers, regards Al

EPS. She flew from the sea succesfully on Friday 15 Aug 2008, look in link above for pictures and videos. Al.

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Old 08-23-2008, 11:58 PM
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Originally Posted by peterangus View Post
My Sunderland. Four direct-drive 400/7.2.

Sadly, no suitable water hereabouts, so it has to be hand-launched.

First flown ten years ago. Now going better than ever with lipo power.

wow,is she for sale,.,.that would look great over my uboat,.,.name your price,.im uk based.,.,.,best regards rob.
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