120 volt to 12 volt power source
#1

ok..... i need 12 volt power in house. . . what is the best,cheapest,most wonderful, home 12 volt power unit on the market?? i am a edf newbie and i need to power my chargers!! mostly 3 or 4 lipos.... 2200mah now but i'm looking at getting bigger and faster... so gimme some options!!!!! lol!! thanks for the help in advance!!
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#2

ok..... i need 12 volt power in house. . . what is the best,cheapest,most wonderful, home 12 volt power unit on the market?? i am a edf newbie and i need to power my chargers!! mostly 3 or 4 lipos.... 2200mah now but i'm looking at getting bigger and faster... so gimme some options!!!!! lol!! thanks for the help in advance!!

If you are handy with a soldering iron, you can pick up a 300+ watt computer power supply and use the 12v rail to power your charger. Its relatively simple - all you need is the power supply, some female banana plugs a power switch and a 10-ohm sandbar resistor or an automotive lightbulb (the soft power system needs a load to function properly) - the former you can get at a flea market or pull from an old PC you might have; the latter three or four things being readily available from Radio Slack and Walmart.
Lots o' linkage out there on this topic but this one is pretty good. Chances are you'll be dealing with an ATX power supply.
Cheers,
GRU
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You need a so-called 12V power supply. In fact, the actual voltage of such a supply will be 13.8V, which is the nominal voltage of a fully-charged automobile battery.
One popular line of power supplies comes from the Astron company. Astron supplies are very rugged and are available with and without built-in meters. Here's a company that carries the Astron line:
http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...ps/astron.html
This is not the only place or necessarily the best place that sells Astrom supplies, but merely the first one I found that shows the prices. Get the biggest (highest current) power supply you can afford. Go for at least 15A. You'll never regret owning a good quality, high-current power supply.
You may find lower prices in other lines of power supplies. For example, the Pyramid line is fairly popular, though not of the bulletproof reliability of an Astron. Here's a site with Pyramid supplies and pricing.
http://radioproshop.com/pyramid-ps/powersupply.htm
Again, I have no experience with this particular seller. It's merely the first one I found carrying the Pyramid line.
There are lots of other brands, such as Samlex, and there are many other sellers. You'll find lots of power supplies on E-bay, for example.
This will at least help you understand the sort of thing you are looking for.
The PC power supply option is good, if as GRU says, you are handy with a soldering iron and have some knowledge of electronics. I've converted a couple of PC power supplies. Just remember that there are lethal voltages inside a power supply, so you must follow good safety procedures.
- Jeff
One popular line of power supplies comes from the Astron company. Astron supplies are very rugged and are available with and without built-in meters. Here's a company that carries the Astron line:
http://www.universal-radio.com/catal...ps/astron.html
This is not the only place or necessarily the best place that sells Astrom supplies, but merely the first one I found that shows the prices. Get the biggest (highest current) power supply you can afford. Go for at least 15A. You'll never regret owning a good quality, high-current power supply.
You may find lower prices in other lines of power supplies. For example, the Pyramid line is fairly popular, though not of the bulletproof reliability of an Astron. Here's a site with Pyramid supplies and pricing.
http://radioproshop.com/pyramid-ps/powersupply.htm
Again, I have no experience with this particular seller. It's merely the first one I found carrying the Pyramid line.
There are lots of other brands, such as Samlex, and there are many other sellers. You'll find lots of power supplies on E-bay, for example.
This will at least help you understand the sort of thing you are looking for.
The PC power supply option is good, if as GRU says, you are handy with a soldering iron and have some knowledge of electronics. I've converted a couple of PC power supplies. Just remember that there are lethal voltages inside a power supply, so you must follow good safety procedures.
- Jeff
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http://web2.murraystate.edu/andy.bat...OWERSUPPLY.HTM
This is the one I used. I did not need that fancy set of different outputs so I just soldered banana plugs to the 12 volt leads.
This is the one I used. I did not need that fancy set of different outputs so I just soldered banana plugs to the 12 volt leads.
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Check it out; $20 + $13 s&h. You'll need a power cord (steal one from an old PC) and other wires.
http://www.web-tronics.com/1512siouposu1.html
http://www.web-tronics.com/1512siouposu1.html
#9

Well??? All you guys?? Is this enough voltage. . Watts?. . Amperage. . . We are looking for the perfect home 12v power source to charge lipos..3cell to 8cell ..all us regular guys need input. . .we need opinions from experts!!!! Chime in. . .. All you gurus AND WIZARDS of the electron wave!!
#10

ok..... i need 12 volt power in house. . . what is the best,cheapest,most wonderful, home 12 volt power unit on the market?? i am a edf newbie and i need to power my chargers!! mostly 3 or 4 lipos.... 2200mah now but i'm looking at getting bigger and faster... so gimme some options!!!!! lol!! thanks for the help in advance!!
Well??? All you guys?? Is this enough voltage. . Watts?. . Amperage. . . We are looking for the perfect home 12v power source to charge lipos..3cell to 8cell ..all us regular guys need input. . .we need opinions from experts!!!! Chime in. . .. All you gurus AND WIZARDS of the electron wave!!






http://www.web-tronics.com/1512siouposu1.html
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I've been using 12 volt power supplies for over 40 years in ham radio, if you want to do it right, you need to get a good quality regulated power supply, I can't recommend any power supply that isn't regulated, a non regulated power supply can damage the equipment you connect to it and the damage can easily exceed what a decent quality regulated power supply would have cost in the first place.
The next best alternative is to get a decent size car battery and connect a battery charger to it, this will take care of a lot of the problems, but will end up costing about as much as buying a good quality regulated power supply in the first place.
The next best alternative is to get a decent size car battery and connect a battery charger to it, this will take care of a lot of the problems, but will end up costing about as much as buying a good quality regulated power supply in the first place.
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Hi Wingman -
I believe all of the power supplies recommended in this thread are regulated. That is indeed an important point, and it's why most of the "wall-plug" type power supplies are not suitable for powering our chargers.
- Jeff (amateur radio NK1F, licensed 40 years)
I believe all of the power supplies recommended in this thread are regulated. That is indeed an important point, and it's why most of the "wall-plug" type power supplies are not suitable for powering our chargers.
- Jeff (amateur radio NK1F, licensed 40 years)
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Read the specs before you start scaring people:
http://www.web-tronics.com/1512siouposu1.html
<<<<< Line Regulation (Full Load): <± 0.5% >>>>>
This ain't 40 years ago; we're now in the PC age of cheap switching power supplies. There are millions of PCs out there that aren't blowing up from bad power supplies. If you don't want to convert a scrounged PC supply, this is a good PS at a good price.
http://www.web-tronics.com/1512siouposu1.html
<<<<< Line Regulation (Full Load): <± 0.5% >>>>>
This ain't 40 years ago; we're now in the PC age of cheap switching power supplies. There are millions of PCs out there that aren't blowing up from bad power supplies. If you don't want to convert a scrounged PC supply, this is a good PS at a good price.
#16

thanks to all for the great info. . . it just happens that i work in and around n.y.c. (the world capital for discarded p.c.'s) and i found one just today. i'm gonna give the cheap fix a chance first.i have the power supply out and will stop by radio shack for the other stuff i need.By the way. . . there are little cd rom motors, worm gears and a laser inside there too that i may need to tinker with also!!!
#17

thanks to all for the great info. . . it just happens that i work in and around n.y.c. (the world capital for discarded p.c.'s) and i found one just today. i'm gonna give the cheap fix a chance first.i have the power supply out and will stop by radio shack for the other stuff i need.By the way. . . there are little cd rom motors, worm gears and a laser inside there too that i may need to tinker with also!!!
I have found it is quicker and cheaper to buy new motors.
#19

I have links somewhere to the motor rewinding task and as soon as I can locate them, I will post them for you.
It is not really difficult. I attended a little seminar where we removed the motor, unwound the old tiny wire and rewound the larger wire. Actually you have to buy new wire, magnets, motor shaft and various other bits. You actually only use the outer housing and the stator and a few other items.
I will find it for you.
#20

Here are some links you may find interesting.
Fly Electric CD ROM motors
Micro Dan is a good source for supplies.
Another site for info on how to rewind motors.
I hope this gets you on the way to winding motors. One thing I learned is that not all CD ROM motors are created equally and some just can't be used as cores for rewinding.
Fly Electric CD ROM motors
Micro Dan is a good source for supplies.
Another site for info on how to rewind motors.
I hope this gets you on the way to winding motors. One thing I learned is that not all CD ROM motors are created equally and some just can't be used as cores for rewinding.
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