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Old 05-20-2018, 12:53 PM
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Here's the link to the flight lines at "Fall Nall" at Triple Tree.

http://www.tripletreeaerodrome.com/f...-fall-nall.php

Looks like electrics are relegated to the Park Flyer field, slow flying planes only. I think I'm crossing Triple Tree off my list of places to attend events at in the future.
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Old 05-20-2018, 04:07 PM
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They do say;
"3D flying must at electric 3D pilot stations on the south end."


But I can't imagine there would be much room for a big part of our hobby.
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Old 05-20-2018, 07:51 PM
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They do say;
"3D flying must at electric 3D pilot stations on the south end."


But I can't imagine there would be much room for a big part of our hobby.
There won't be. All it means is that electric 3D guys will be lined up, waiting for a chance to fly when the one or two pilot stations open up. And, you'll have guys flying 3D while the "slow planes" will be trying to line up to land. Want to fly your EDF jet or a fast warbird? Nope, sorry.
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Old 05-21-2018, 01:59 PM
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This is sad.



I have nothing against glow or gas, (I have both) but I can;t stand being at an event and the 3d guys with these huge gassers want to hover right on the line. It is loud, and annoying and I am not comfortable flying with them. I actually wrecked a plane at a friends fly in back in January because right after I took off two 100cc plus 3d birds took off on either side of me and i just had nowhere to fly. I ended up punching it in as i got so crossed up and nervous with them hovering in front of me.

I found out the other day that my old club where I hosted Electrics over Tidewater for many, many years is now going to an all fuel fall fly in as well. Another local club up there in Williamsburg is having an all WET fuel fly in... no electrics allowed.

I do enjoy my electric events. long live SEFF and HHAEFI
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This is sad.



I have nothing against glow or gas, (I have both) but I can;t stand being at an event and the 3d guys with these huge gassers want to hover right on the line. It is loud, and annoying and I am not comfortable flying with them. I actually wrecked a plane at a friends fly in back in January because right after I took off two 100cc plus 3d birds took off on either side of me and i just had nowhere to fly. I ended up punching it in as i got so crossed up and nervous with them hovering in front of me.

I found out the other day that my old club where I hosted Electrics over Tidewater for many, many years is now going to an all fuel fall fly in as well. Another local club up there in Williamsburg is having an all WET fuel fly in... no electrics allowed.

I do enjoy my electric events. long live SEFF and HHAEFI
I couldn't agree more. Although I like watching the really talented 3D guys fly, I can only enjoy it when my plane is on the ground. If I'm up, and I see one coming to the flight line (fuel or electric) I'll announce that I'm landing. It's like you never know where they are going to be, and I get nervous about a mid air collision due to a sudden, unexpected change of direction by them.

I was talking with one of our club officers who is very friendly with the TT staff. He mentioned that one of the 3D guys there this year decided it would be fun to fly off the property line, over a nearby herd of cows, who promptly stampeded. The owner of the cows called the police, and for the first time ever, the police had to come to TT to tell them to knock it off or get shut down. The CD at the 3D line told everyone to land for a mandatory pilot's meeting, and was basically ignored.
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I went to watch an event over at House Mountain RC last summer just because some friends came up from Georgia for it. Nice field and nice planes. What got me was that the majority of these 3d guys are very young, and pardon me, but very arrogant. I ask one of him about his setup and got the most smart alec answers, finally gave up asking him any questions and walked away.

I respect that talent as there is no way I can do it, but man I don't like the attitudes of a lot of them.
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I went to watch an event over at House Mountain RC last summer just because some friends came up from Georgia for it. Nice field and nice planes. What got me was that the majority of these 3d guys are very young, and pardon me, but very arrogant. I ask one of him about his setup and got the most smart alec answers, finally gave up asking him any questions and walked away.

I respect that talent as there is no way I can do it, but man I don't like the attitudes of a lot of them.

As far as I'm concerned, as soon as the CD was ignored after announcing a MANDATORY pilot meeting, anyone who continued to fly should have been escorted off the property and banned from ever returning.
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As far as I'm concerned, as soon as the CD was ignored after announcing a MANDATORY pilot meeting, anyone who continued to fly should have been escorted off the property and banned from ever returning.
I have to say that if CD got ignored and flying continued - then its not only flyers that should be called to answer - but CD as well for not enforcing the Call to Meeting.

Sorry but it calls for a tough person for that job ...

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Old 05-21-2018, 07:48 PM
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I have to say that if CD got ignored and flying continued - then its not only flyers that should be called to answer - but CD as well for not enforcing the Call to Meeting.

Sorry but it calls for a tough person for that job ...

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Agreed, I have been a CD for several years now and while fun, it can be a real pain in the rear also. It is a thankless job to say the least.
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I'm also a CD. In this case, I believe the owners o the property trump the CD.

I wonder what kind of attendance they will get by pulling the cancelled Joe Nall, the grandaddy of them all, into e-week. I'll bet it will not be great. Kids back to school, fall going into full swing, busier times at work, etc.
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Old 05-22-2018, 08:39 AM
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"I'm also a CD. In this case, I believe the owners o the property trump the CD. "

Sorry bit lost on that .... Owners of the property trump the CD ?

Surely the Owners agreed to the CD chosen ? The CD then acts as the Controller for safety and flight etiquette ? If he calls for a Mandatory Meeting to discuss infringement or anything in fact in his remit - then Owners are expected to support him / her ?

I will be CD next saturday for Airport Open Day ... if anyone ignores me when a call for Meeting is made - they better be ready to pack up and become a spectator.

Sorry if I sound a bit harsh and not intended to offend ... just my PoV.

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I think maybe that was more a reference to closing the event.

Agreed though, as a CD I have sat pilots down before. Wouldn't hesitate to do it again either.
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Old 05-22-2018, 09:14 PM
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Yeah 3D can be annoying as can Head and Limb Chopper Offers.
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Old 05-22-2018, 09:19 PM
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E-Week was changed because of dwindling attendance figures and there being a much larger demand for an encore presentation of Joe Nall, plain and simple. And with Joe Nall being cancelled this year, you can rest assured it will be a busy time during Nall in the Fall as many will be seeking redemption for their cancelled plans. For the main 3D line down at the pond, there are very strict rules in place on where pilots can fly their airplanes, and there are restrictions on flying wide open at the pits, or ripping the propeller. It may seem like they are a gang of renegades but more than a handful of pilots have been shut down by flight line bosses due to neglectful flying, and it happens every single year. To my knowledge there hasn't been repeat offenders but the crew who runs the 3D flight line won't tolerate anybody repeatedly ignoring the rules on purpose.

By the way, EDF's, warbirds, and other fast flying electric aircraft with wingspans less than 80" are all welcome to fly at the main electric line, and many do so back to back without any issues. I was flying a Multiplex FunCub XL borderline 3D at the main electric line a couple years ago and nobody ever hassled me, many a compliments from the pilots though.
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As primarily a glider pilot, pure and electric, I have been a CD for many years. I expect some respect from the participants. I have never had a Pilot's Meeting ignored but I have never CD's an event with more than 40 pilots so I don't know what it is like to manage such an event. And all of mine have been contests, so everyone flying is a competitor.
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