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Old 08-26-2005, 03:16 PM
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Does anybody have one of the GWS Corsairs? I built mine about a year ago but performance was lacking and the controls were sluggish. This weekend I was bored and decided to do a makeover. I purchased a GWS 400 c motor and gearbox (it came with a 300), along with a 2C lipoly battery. I got rid of the stock aileron configuration and added a Y harness with individual servos for each aileron. I then removed the rudder servo and glued the rudder stationary.
Took her up last night for the new maiden flight and....WOW! Very responsive. More than enough power now with 1 flight lasting well over 20 minutes. Can you say vertical? I can't imagine what a brushless motor would do to this bird. She's faaassssssttttt! By the way, the weight of the new motor combined with less weight of the battery balanced her out perfectly. I was able to remove all of the weight putty from the cowling.

The stock aileron linkages were bent along the shape of the wing which caused a bunch of control issues for me. Has anyone else modified one of these planes?
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Old 08-27-2005, 02:22 PM
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RW650,thanks for the info. I have one of these in the box. From all that I have heard they didn't fly all that well in the stock form. Now with the modifications you have stated this sheds a little light in the direction I need to go with this bird. The power system has not been purchased for this one yet, does anyone have a suggestion that would help Me combat the Zeros in the neiborhood??? Thanks D-turtle
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Old 08-27-2005, 02:38 PM
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You'd have to go brushless and lipo's to get the most out of these planes. I use Himax 2025 in the GWS gearbox and TP 2100 batt. My friend runs the corsair with the same power system and I the Zero. About equal in speed and power. 45 to 50 mph in level flight. Handle like a pattern plane when set up properly. My friends Corsair has two ail. servos. That's about the only change he made. Zero took a lot more to get it to work right. They look good one behind the other. Right out of Baa Baa Blacksheep.
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Old 08-27-2005, 03:03 PM
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I've been told that brushless is definately the way to go, although I haven't made the jump yet. I will when I burn up my current motor. The GWS 400c motor I have in it now works great with the LiPo battery. Speaking of Baa Baa Black Sheep, I did mine up like Pappy's "Lulubelle" complete with 23 kill flags.
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Old 08-27-2005, 04:24 PM
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Flypaper,
What ratio gearbox do you use with the brushless? Is you LiPo a 2 or 3 cell?
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Old 08-27-2005, 04:27 PM
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thaks,for this but I have model."stuka" german fither.
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Old 08-27-2005, 10:12 PM
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I myself have a GWS corsair and love it I was lucky to put a brushless from the get go and I'm glade I did.Himax 2015 with 6-1 gear,3/2100 lipos,12/6 prop,single servo as to keep weight down and yes its a pain as I keep resetting the wires back into the wing at times.But all in all its fun and tuff as last week I cartwheeled it across the paved runway and damaged the wing tips but that was an easy fix.No gear as I belly land it.Have fun and good luck,John
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Old 08-27-2005, 11:42 PM
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R W. Mine came with the C drive, which is 5.33 to1 .With a spacer from Himax the motor bolts right into the GWS gearbox.. Swings a 10-8 prop on three cells. Don't have to throw it, takes off vertically out of your hand. My buddys Corsair has the aileron servos out at the ailerons past where the wing cranks up. He cut a slit in the foam under the wing and forced the wire in it to the centre of the Fuse. Lands on the grass with no problems.
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Try a 10-8 prop for more speed and a little less pulling power.
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Old 08-28-2005, 03:20 AM
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Hello Gord and thanks but this plane flys just great as it will allmost hover which impresses me thanks anyways.As to more speed don't need any as it will do everthing that I can ask from it.John
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Old 08-28-2005, 04:00 AM
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I set up GWS Corsair with a E-flite 370 4200 C gearing on GWS stock gear box, stock servo setup 3s Lipo's TP 850 she is very fast and will go where ever you point her.
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Old 08-28-2005, 03:21 PM
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Just a little story. I have the Zero, my friend has the Corsair. Had a midair that both flew away from. I noticed something fluttering down, thought it was my canopy. I did a low flypast to check it out, canopy still on. Dave said the elevator was sluggish but still worked. He did a low flypast too. Whole right side stab, elevator was missing. Made new from pink foam and still flies great. Zero had a nick about halfway out on the LE of the wing about 1/2 in deep shaped like the front of a stab.
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Old 08-29-2005, 11:19 AM
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The Corsair is a rugged bird. I reluctantly finally retired mine. (Weight of glue soon to exceed weight of foam.) With a Himaxx 2812 and 3s I first learned to KE with her. (It's now so much easier on everything else.) I really miss that plane. I didn't mind its slower roll rate compared to other warbirds. I was happy with the more scale-like flight.
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Old 08-29-2005, 12:56 PM
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I have been happily flying mine for going on 3yrs now. Stock set-up and all.
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Old 08-29-2005, 09:39 PM
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Talking EPS 400C D Gear

I am currently running the EPS 400C D Gear with a GWS EP9050 HD Prop and a 3 cell 11.1v 1320 mAh lipo in my corsair. Plane balances perfectly and flies very well. With the EP1060 HD Prop you can get a ton more power out of the lipo but it will cut down battery life. I think the Geared 400 motor is only going to do well at 10 amps or less.

The 9050 prop WOT on the bench pulls about 9 amps where the 1060 HD Prop pulls about 12 amps.

I have read that with the 3 cell lipo if you go with the EPS 400C C Gear and the GWS EP9050 HD Prop that set is really good but I've not tried it.

I'm going to be giving the BP12 brushless motor a shot next in my corsair. It's almost ready to fly.
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Old 08-30-2005, 03:06 PM
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Well, I finally made the jump to brushless with a Hi-max 2025, 10/6 prop and 3 cell lipoly battery. Got it put in and I can tell she has lots of power. Can't fly her today though. Getting some storms and rain compliments of Katrina. Can't wait to take her up! I'll post again and let you all know how she flys.
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Old 08-31-2005, 12:19 PM
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Good luck RW. Have a blast!
Lots of good Corsair threads at RCHobbyHub. http://www.novellahub.com/index.php?...viewforum&f=32
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Old 09-03-2005, 03:02 PM
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Well I changed the gear on this plane 4/1 and went to a 10/8 prop it go alot faster but does not have the holding power that it did.It will still goes straight up and hold on the prop just not as much as before.But you know what I like this setup better as it go faster thanks for the suggestion on prop change.Now I'm going to take out my P-51 with a 4 blade on it with a 6/1 and the same motor setup(himax2015/4100) anyone got any suggestion on that one.Thanks,John

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Old 09-03-2005, 04:41 PM
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Thanks for all the great motor info gang. I have a GWS Zero and ME-109 recently acquired from a local flyer and both need new power systems.
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Old 09-03-2005, 05:22 PM
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Here is my Ace Simple Series Corsair recently completed. I'm running a Park 400 Brushless Outrunner and a 9X6 prop. The fuselage is built up balsa and the wings are foam. Power is supplied through a 3s Lipoly 1200 ma pack. Hopefully, if the weather stays good, I'll take her up this evening. Should be a real speed demon. Lots of thrust. I did the paint scheme like Pappy Boyington's "Lulubelle". Made the custom Black Sheep decals on my computer using the water slide decal paper you can get at the hobby store. Ought to be a blast!
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Old 09-03-2005, 09:10 PM
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Would any of you fellows flying the GWS bird tell us your AUW??
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Old 09-05-2005, 08:21 PM
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Mine is 17.4 oz with 3 cell lipo and brushless outrunner.
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Old 09-06-2005, 09:35 PM
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Thanks!

If not too nosey what motor are you using?
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Old 09-07-2005, 12:47 AM
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This is my setup:MPJet AC 28/7-30D "red" outrunner; Eflite 20 amp brushless esc; Predator 3 cell 1600 mah battery; APC 8x6E prop. Pulls about 14 amps and the Watt-meter is showing between 140 and 150 watts. I can't remember the exact number. It was a few months ago. I fabricated a plywood firewall for the motor.
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Old 09-07-2005, 02:59 AM
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That is a very cool setup. I like the firewall idea. How does she fly? I bet it is very fast.
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Old 09-07-2005, 03:46 AM
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She goes where I point her. Yeah very fast, and stable. Got a little too brave 2 weeks ago and put her in the ground full power. Needless to say she is getting a overhaul. I figured it was time anyway. Spackle, new paint, balsa control surfaces, thinking of getting rid of the rudder and using one servo per aileron. I haven't made up my yet. For sure my favorite plane in the hanger..........Here are the latest pics....GW
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