400 size outruner motors
11-24-2008, 05:23 AM
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Hello Porkchophb, Welcome to Wattflyer!
Dorsal is right, it depends on what you intend to use the motor for.
If you wanted all-out speed with a direct-drive motor for (say) "400" pylon racing, a couple that come to mind would be the Mega 16/15 series, the NEU 1100-1105 series and perhaps the Medusa 028 or E-Flite Series 6, all inrunners.
For Sport or Park flyers, the Eskay, E-Flite "Park" series, Himax, and about 2 dozen more are good values. All make outrunners.
For more precision, best quality and workmanship, money's no object, my choices would be AXI, Plettenburg Micro-Typhoon, Hacker. These aren't racing motors, but top-of-the-line all-around motors.
I'm sure some will disagree and of course I missed a few, but those are my favorites.
Ron
Dorsal is right, it depends on what you intend to use the motor for.
If you wanted all-out speed with a direct-drive motor for (say) "400" pylon racing, a couple that come to mind would be the Mega 16/15 series, the NEU 1100-1105 series and perhaps the Medusa 028 or E-Flite Series 6, all inrunners.
For Sport or Park flyers, the Eskay, E-Flite "Park" series, Himax, and about 2 dozen more are good values. All make outrunners.
For more precision, best quality and workmanship, money's no object, my choices would be AXI, Plettenburg Micro-Typhoon, Hacker. These aren't racing motors, but top-of-the-line all-around motors.
I'm sure some will disagree and of course I missed a few, but those are my favorites.
Ron
11-24-2008, 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Sky Sharkster
Hello Porkchophb, Welcome to Wattflyer!
Dorsal is right, it depends on what you intend to use the motor for.
If you wanted all-out speed with a direct-drive motor for (say) "400" pylon racing, a couple that come to mind would be the Mega 16/15 series, the NEU 1100-1105 series and perhaps the Medusa 028 or E-Flite Series 6, all inrunners.
For Sport or Park flyers, the Eskay, E-Flite "Park" series, Himax, and about 2 dozen more are good values. All make outrunners.
For more precision, best quality and workmanship, money's no object, my choices would be AXI, Plettenburg Micro-Typhoon, Hacker. These aren't racing motors, but top-of-the-line all-around motors.
I'm sure some will disagree and of course I missed a few, but those are my favorites.
Ron
Dorsal is right, it depends on what you intend to use the motor for.
If you wanted all-out speed with a direct-drive motor for (say) "400" pylon racing, a couple that come to mind would be the Mega 16/15 series, the NEU 1100-1105 series and perhaps the Medusa 028 or E-Flite Series 6, all inrunners.
For Sport or Park flyers, the Eskay, E-Flite "Park" series, Himax, and about 2 dozen more are good values. All make outrunners.
For more precision, best quality and workmanship, money's no object, my choices would be AXI, Plettenburg Micro-Typhoon, Hacker. These aren't racing motors, but top-of-the-line all-around motors.
I'm sure some will disagree and of course I missed a few, but those are my favorites.
Ron
I just wanted to say that You Have EXPENSIVE Taste 
but your right, if you want Quality, you have to be willing to pay for it, for my cheapy foam models, I like the Turnigy motors, they wont send you to the poor house, and Quallity is Fairly good on them, I bought a Neu motor for a fast Stryker, all $195.00 worth of motor, like Dorsal and others say, it all depends on what your going to be doing with it, lipos are the same way too, but i wont open that can of worms yet 
Take care, Chellie
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11-24-2008, 01:36 PM
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Steve Neu finally has seen the light 
working on an outrunner. Prototype:
http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=949864
Also
http://www.lehner-motoren.com/
Vriendelijke groeten Ron
working on an outrunner. Prototype:http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=949864
Also
http://www.lehner-motoren.com/
Vriendelijke groeten
Ron
11-25-2008, 05:50 AM
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I can't see "400 size" and "outrunner" in the same sentence???
400-size inrunner - sure - any 28mm motor.....
...but what the heck is a 400-size outrunner? Does that mean an outrunner with the same power as a Speed 400?... say, 80W-90W?... or is it a 22xx outrunner with the same OD as a Speed 400, some of which are good for 200-300W?
400-size inrunner - sure - any 28mm motor.....
...but what the heck is a 400-size outrunner? Does that mean an outrunner with the same power as a Speed 400?... say, 80W-90W?... or is it a 22xx outrunner with the same OD as a Speed 400, some of which are good for 200-300W?
11-25-2008, 03:15 PM
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Hi Doc,
I took the question to mean a "400" sized powerplant. But 400 is not only the description of a motor. In fact, as you point out, that's the most inexact usage.
400 is most often, and most correctly, used to describe an aircraft size and/or performance range.
Take the Stinger pylon racer, for example. Most folks would describe this as a "400" sized racer. Anything from a "Speed" or "Can" brushed 400 (I know, I know, it's not exactly 400mm), to a Mega 16/15, Medusa 032-1900 or NEU 1105.
http://www.nesail.com/detail.php?productID=1544
The ACE "Simple 400" series. Designed for brushed 400, any 100 watt (approx.), direct-drive inrunner or outrunner will work. Races are held for these, called "Speed 400 Pylon".
Limited Motor Run, or LMR Glider events started out as a "400" event, meaning the brushed 400's. Now it's evolved to F5J, and unofficial or club contests allow Hacker B20 w/gearing, Mega 16/15's, outrunners, etc.
Or, the Zagi, another good example of a "400" plane. Stryker also.
Beginners may not understand the complexities of equating motor output to size (physical dimensions) of the motor, as you do. But nearly anyone who's read ads for planes or spent any time on R/C sites know roughly what a "400" plane is. It's by far the most popular kit and ARF size.
So, while it may puzzle the experienced motor experts to hear "400" bandied about in such a loose manner, for the newer modeler (or, just new to electric) it has a clear meaning. Many of the Alpha, Scorpio, ACE, GWS, Flying Styro, Green R/C, E-Flite, Park Zone, Stevens, Mountain Models, are described as "400" models. So, any motor they recommend becomes a "400". Exact, No. Understandable, Yes.
I hope you're not insulted by my reply. I am only trying to point out that you may be trying to put an exact meaning on an inexact useage.
Ron
I took the question to mean a "400" sized powerplant. But 400 is not only the description of a motor. In fact, as you point out, that's the most inexact usage.
400 is most often, and most correctly, used to describe an aircraft size and/or performance range.
Take the Stinger pylon racer, for example. Most folks would describe this as a "400" sized racer. Anything from a "Speed" or "Can" brushed 400 (I know, I know, it's not exactly 400mm), to a Mega 16/15, Medusa 032-1900 or NEU 1105.
http://www.nesail.com/detail.php?productID=1544
The ACE "Simple 400" series. Designed for brushed 400, any 100 watt (approx.), direct-drive inrunner or outrunner will work. Races are held for these, called "Speed 400 Pylon".
Limited Motor Run, or LMR Glider events started out as a "400" event, meaning the brushed 400's. Now it's evolved to F5J, and unofficial or club contests allow Hacker B20 w/gearing, Mega 16/15's, outrunners, etc.
Or, the Zagi, another good example of a "400" plane. Stryker also.
Beginners may not understand the complexities of equating motor output to size (physical dimensions) of the motor, as you do. But nearly anyone who's read ads for planes or spent any time on R/C sites know roughly what a "400" plane is. It's by far the most popular kit and ARF size.
So, while it may puzzle the experienced motor experts to hear "400" bandied about in such a loose manner, for the newer modeler (or, just new to electric) it has a clear meaning. Many of the Alpha, Scorpio, ACE, GWS, Flying Styro, Green R/C, E-Flite, Park Zone, Stevens, Mountain Models, are described as "400" models. So, any motor they recommend becomes a "400". Exact, No. Understandable, Yes.
I hope you're not insulted by my reply. I am only trying to point out that you may be trying to put an exact meaning on an inexact useage.
Ron
11-25-2008, 04:01 PM
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Originally Posted by Dr Kiwi
I can't see "400 size" and "outrunner" in the same sentence???
400-size inrunner - sure - any 28mm motor.....
...but what the heck is a 400-size outrunner? Does that mean an outrunner with the same power as a Speed 400?... say, 80W-90W?... or is it a 22xx outrunner with the same OD as a Speed 400, some of which are good for 200-300W?
400-size inrunner - sure - any 28mm motor.....
...but what the heck is a 400-size outrunner? Does that mean an outrunner with the same power as a Speed 400?... say, 80W-90W?... or is it a 22xx outrunner with the same OD as a Speed 400, some of which are good for 200-300W?
just teasing ya...
Ps, I'm sure mathmaticians were pretty mad when people started calling stuff "Rad"
SK
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