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I'm gonna kill that DARN CAT!! aka Broken P-38

Old 08-23-2008, 05:33 PM
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Build Review I'm gonna kill that DARN CAT!! aka Broken P-38

Well the title says it all.

The victim is my E-Flite P38. I flew two batteries through it just this morning with AnglerHi. She was on top form. Untill....

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He was just running around being a kitten. It happened about 1 1/2 feet away. For about 30 seconds I was so mad I couldn't articulate a non curse word. After that, all I could do was laugh.

Here are some pics of my attempted repair. I used two skewers to act as a physical brace. I made a third hole but left it empty to allow for the glue to expand on the inside of the repair.
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I have it sitting on top of that beer glass so that its own weight is keeping the booms pressed flat as the glue cures.
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I sure hope it Flies as good as it used to!

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Old 08-23-2008, 06:05 PM
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dang those cats. oh well, you cant blame a cat for being a cat
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Old 08-23-2008, 06:07 PM
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What the HELL MAN!!!??? That's just CRAZY dude! That cat would have been dog food bro. I pride myself on being somewhat of an animal lover....but SOMETIMES.

I'm reall sorry to hear that John! I'm glad you got a laugh out of it though. I think your many more years in the Army have allowed you alot more patience than me friend. I think if I were in your shoes, the dogs would have gotten a new chew toy. I'm confident you'll get her back together and she'll fly just fine, if not better. Keep me posted man.

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Old 08-23-2008, 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Angler-Hi View Post
What the HELL MAN!!!??? ....! I'm glad you got a laugh out of it though. I think your many more years in the Army have allowed you alot more patience than me friend.
Yeah Mike at one point, you realize "you can't control what you can't control."

Don't get me wrong, I was plenty mad. The laugh wasn't from a "funny ha-ha" point of view. It was from a "funny -Good God I need to choke-throw somebody!!" frame of mind.

Once the gorilla glue expanded for about 20 minutes I took to the tape off. So now hopefully it will cure nice and strong.
It seems straight to the naked eye.
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Old 08-23-2008, 06:54 PM
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dang those cats. oh well, you cant blame a cat for being a cat
Yeah, tp12 you're right.

After 10 minutes or so I was more mad at myself than Scout (the feline destroyer).

The planes were wet from the dew at the park this morning. They were getting put up as soon as they dried off.
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Old 08-23-2008, 06:57 PM
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Glad you got her back together man. I'm sure she'll fly fine. I know it's not exactly the look you were going for, but you just have to roll with it sometimes...trust me, I KNOW.
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Old 08-23-2008, 07:22 PM
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You should call the Inquirer. I can see the headlines now; "WW2 fighter plane destroyed by cat!"
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Old 08-23-2008, 07:37 PM
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Wow dude oh man... poor plane lol.
Wow.. you just say shes a kitten? wow... glad you got her fixed up, if shes got plenty of power she'll fly no matter what even without wings lol
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Old 08-25-2008, 10:58 PM
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that sounds horrible. i had one of my three cats step on the proccesor fan *SNAP* when i was workin on the computer. i know how much animals can piss you off

but im glad you got a laugh out of it too ( maybe your cat needs a leash )




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Old 08-25-2008, 11:08 PM
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Old 08-25-2008, 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by gfdengine204 View Post

Just so you know, I have reported this post to PETA!

Sorry to hear that John. I'm sure you'll have her fixed up good as new though.
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Old 08-26-2008, 03:30 AM
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Originally Posted by gfdengine204 View Post
In That Case, I bet they would Make for some great TACOs too I Need to Get A Bumper sticker like that
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Old 08-26-2008, 04:02 AM
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peta people eating tasty animals lolol
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Old 08-29-2008, 02:20 AM
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Talking You guys are a riot

Back on topic somewhat.

It didn't dry 100% straight, but I can hold her up by the horizontal stabilizer, so I think it should fly OK.
We'll find out tomorrow morning!!

Flight report to follow...
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Old 08-29-2008, 02:52 PM
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cool, ive had something like that to me, i was taking my fliton mini edge to the car and right when i was in the door my dog ran outside and banged the rudder up in the process.
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Old 08-29-2008, 08:37 PM
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My cat has chomped several of my planes. Several wing tips have teeth marks. I keep the water spray bottle handy.
But...

The other day my dog, who loves chasing planes, finally caught one. Felt like choking him but I did encourage the behavior.

They are all part of the family so I can't stay mad them for very long and laugh about it later.
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Old 08-29-2008, 08:57 PM
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"Yeah Mike at one point, you realize "you can't control what you can't control.""


Let's just hope that never becomes your plane!


Sorry about your loss. I like the skewer trick, though on my friends SC, CA worked just fine w/o any type of brace
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Old 08-29-2008, 09:00 PM
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Every plane I own is thoroughly preflighted by the cat before it leaves the house. All air vents need a paw inside for some reason that's beyond me, If its big enough to fit two paws in all the better I guess. I don't have a clue what he looking for and a few times I got to the field only to find he unplugged all the wires from the RX. Theirs really never any damage to the planes but it makes me wonder about him when I catch him with a paw up to his shoulder inside one.

Spinning the prop is mandatory and so is leaving plenty of pawprints on each plane.
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Old 08-29-2008, 09:23 PM
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Default Mixed results.

Thanks for the kind words guys. That's cool Kosh. This wasn't a case of curiosity, though. He was just playing tag with the dog and the plane got in the way of his escape path.


Well.... I'll put it like this; she still flies, but it's a lot more work than it used to be!

When I took off this morning it was in a paved parking lot. The plane rolled out fine and shot STRAIGHT UP!! by the time my thumb caught up with what I was seeing the P38 was in a vertical climb and VERY close to stalling. I mashed full down elevator and slowly nursed her back to level flight with decent air speed. After applying full down trim I immediately landed. I didn't want to spend any more time in the air than I had to. The landing was ugly and rough.:o
I centered the trim and made the appropriate sub trim adjustments.
The 2nd Flight was ROGrass and she flew better. It still took significant trim inputs to get her to fly level. Landing was better but a lot more work than last week.

It was my own poor repair skills that introduced the following: The entire rear horizontal stabilizer is angled up. One side is about a 16th ' lower than the other, so I had to compensate with aeleron trim.

Oh well, she still flies and that's what really counts!
(at least that's what I keep telling myself!)

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Old 08-29-2008, 10:42 PM
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You'll get it worked out man.
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Old 08-29-2008, 10:58 PM
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A lot of times when I'm setting incidence angles I block the plane up on my bench.
Then I block the tail in place.
When everything measures OK, I add the glue.
All you need is some weight on the plane to hold it steady.... now where did that cat go?


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Old 08-30-2008, 03:01 PM
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When my Pom was little, I had one of my first Guillows conversions on the bench. Couldn't find the clear canopy and it didn't take long to come up with a theory. "You can't find it becuase it probably got taken upstairs and its all chewed up." Well it was.

On those toothpicks, they're more hassle that they're worth. I tried that once or twice and the alignment was lousy. I put a cf rod in after aligning and gluing those surfaces together.
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Originally Posted by pd1 View Post
A lot of times when I'm setting incidence angles I block the plane up on my bench.
Then I block the tail in place.
When everything measures OK, I add the glue.
All you need is some weight on the plane to hold it steady.... now where did that cat go?
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...On those toothpicks, they're more hassle that they're worth. I tried that once or twice and the alignment was lousy. I put a cf rod in after aligning and gluing those surfaces together.
Paul & Bill,
I think your advice is dead on the money. If I am ever in a similar repair situation I will definitely do it with your methods.
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Old 08-30-2008, 04:25 PM
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Default Yea!! I got my plane back!

Well gang, I got her sorted out. Me and Angler Hi flew this morning and I was able to put two batteries through the Lightning.

I know that I have a problem that I'm covering up but not fixing, but without re-breaking the plane there's not much else I can do.

So, with my crooked tail and even crookeder ( hey I'm from the South, it's a word) elevator giving me very twitchy elevation controls, I programmed in 25% exponential into the elevator channel. It worked pretty good.

I had 2 spot on landings this morning with several touch and go's thrown in for good measure. Now that she flys like she used to, I can clean up those booms and make them look good again.

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Old 08-30-2008, 11:34 PM
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I kind of know how ya feel man. My cat took a chunk out of my Slow Stick's wing when i left it unattended for a while. Thankfully it wasn't bad. Alli had to do was put some packing tape over it to cover up the holes.

Although the 2nd time was my fault for leaving it out since i knew he'd do it. i was pissed cause i crashed my bip (didnt get it off of the ground. needed more runway so it rolled over into a tractor wheel ditch. ripped the bottom wing struts). Put it on the piano and went upstairs for a little bit.my mom yelled at me to come downstairs and to my 'surprise'. the cat took a chunk out of my rudder.
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