$50.00 Scratch Build Contest Entry, Tom Swift's '57 pusher jet.....Galaxie :)
09-05-2013, 06:57 AM
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$50.00 Scratch Build Contest Entry, Tom Swift's '57 pusher jet.....Galaxie :)
Well now, I am still narrowing down my choices of what to build......hmmmm 
It will be made of FF foam and 6mm Depron with a sprinkling of tree parts in and out of it....lol.
Watch this space for more info
--Ray
It will be made of FF foam and 6mm Depron with a sprinkling of tree parts in and out of it....lol.
Watch this space for more info
--Ray
Last edited by Wrench66; 11-03-2013 at 09:36 PM. Reason: It's finally named!
09-08-2013, 04:53 AM
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haha, thanks Al.....always the right motivating push to get me goin'
Ok, looks like I wanna build a sport/pattern type ship.....I know I know but I will add some cool touches
Ok, looks like I wanna build a sport/pattern type ship.....I know I know but I will add some cool touches
09-14-2013, 08:15 AM
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Ok that WAS the intention......lol, I saw a book in the thrift shop today and suddenly found my build for this contest! It was a book called "Tom Swift and his Flying Laboratory".....and the second page had my plane in it. It's a swept wing tail-less jet design that should be a cool flyer.
Specs:
41in WS
36in Length
2212-6 2200kv motor...6x4 prop
3s 2200mh
under 20oz AUW
Specs:
41in WS
36in Length
2212-6 2200kv motor...6x4 prop
3s 2200mh
under 20oz AUW
09-15-2013, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by quorneng
Wrench66
Cool!
But I can see quite a bit in that which could make it a bit tricky to fly!
Cool!
But I can see quite a bit in that which could make it a bit tricky to fly!
What I see is an "artist's" idea from 1957, a fantasy drawing at best I'm sure.
I'm anxious to see what Wrench66 can do with it
Standing By,
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09-15-2013, 11:53 PM
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Revising Tom's plane
Originally Posted by quorneng
Wrench66
Cool!
But I can see quite a bit in that which could make it a bit tricky to fly!
Cool!
But I can see quite a bit in that which could make it a bit tricky to fly!
Originally Posted by Slowjohn
What I see is an "artist's" idea from 1957, a fantasy drawing at best I'm sure.
I'm anxious to see what Wrench66 can do with it
Standing By,
SJ
I'm anxious to see what Wrench66 can do with it
Standing By,
SJ
SJ I do believe the artist's idea was just that, but being as I have a hard head and don't take being told I can't very well....well, haha I'm gonna build it with just a touch different design but still keeping with the Tomorrowland theme
OK, essentially this plane is a flying wing.....being as it has no horiz tail the main wing will be doing all of the control save for a rudder. The pointy wingtips and the triangular wing are getting just a touch different geometry.....the TE will have some angle to it AND the wing tips will be squared off. I believe those two variations will help with making this a successful flying model
Here's a couple pics of my wing so far.
--Ray
09-16-2013, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Wrench66
I agree with both here......I do think those sharp delta wing tips could be a source of probs......I already have a revision planned for that
SJ I do believe the artist's idea was just that, but being as I have a hard head and don't take being told I can't very well....well, haha I'm gonna build it with just a touch different design but still keeping with the Tomorrowland theme
OK, essentially this plane is a flying wing.....being as it has no horiz tail the main wing will be doing all of the control save for a rudder. The pointy wingtips and the triangular wing are getting just a touch different geometry.....the TE will have some angle to it AND the wing tips will be squared off. I believe those two variations will help with making this a successful flying model
Here's a couple pics of my wing so far.
--Ray
SJ I do believe the artist's idea was just that, but being as I have a hard head and don't take being told I can't very well....well, haha I'm gonna build it with just a touch different design but still keeping with the Tomorrowland theme
OK, essentially this plane is a flying wing.....being as it has no horiz tail the main wing will be doing all of the control save for a rudder. The pointy wingtips and the triangular wing are getting just a touch different geometry.....the TE will have some angle to it AND the wing tips will be squared off. I believe those two variations will help with making this a successful flying model
Here's a couple pics of my wing so far.
--Ray
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09-16-2013, 11:51 AM
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Wrench66
As Alexander Lippisch discovered a 'delta' is aerodynamically different to a flying wing in that it does have natural stability where as a wing has to have some reflex on the trailing edge.
The 'steeper' the sweep of the delta the better its the longitudinal stability becomes so it is quite possible that a more 'dart' like wing will actually be easier to fly than one that is more like a flying wing.
As Alexander Lippisch discovered a 'delta' is aerodynamically different to a flying wing in that it does have natural stability where as a wing has to have some reflex on the trailing edge.
The 'steeper' the sweep of the delta the better its the longitudinal stability becomes so it is quite possible that a more 'dart' like wing will actually be easier to fly than one that is more like a flying wing.
09-16-2013, 07:27 PM
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I have built and flown Delta's and flying wing's and yes they have quite different personalities from each other. This project will be using a wing type I designed with a good 40 degree+ sweep that has flown as a normal flying wing for many years now......only here I am building a fuse to it and removing the side winglets for a single vertical stab rearward of the wing tips. Also moving the power and weight moments around (the fuse will hold the motor at the rear and battery in it's nose) but leaving the wing's CG where it has worked well previously.
Ever since I first flew this design of wing I have wondered how it would do paired up with a fuselage built for it?
We're gonna see.
--Ray
Ever since I first flew this design of wing I have wondered how it would do paired up with a fuselage built for it?
We're gonna see.
--Ray
09-17-2013, 02:30 AM
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ray,I'm glad there are folks willing to take a chance at doing something different.or we might never have learned to fly for real.
go for it!!! and above all,have a blast!!
looking forward to it's completion. stu
go for it!!! and above all,have a blast!!
looking forward to it's completion. stu
10-15-2013, 06:06 AM
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UPDATE time
So here are a few pics and up date
Firstly I had to assemble my cut out wing cores, these are dead simple to mark and cut and unlike a flat wing, these wind up with a nice airfoil that flies very smoothly.
Firstly I had to assemble my cut out wing cores, these are dead simple to mark and cut and unlike a flat wing, these wind up with a nice airfoil that flies very smoothly.
10-15-2013, 06:14 AM
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So here I'm drawing and cutting out a fuselage that looks right AND has enough nose to possibly counter any balance issues caused by the motor being stuck under the tail
I like to use a forward battery compartment and nose made from a solid block of industrial blue foam.....like they would use to ship large items in. This foam has served me very well in motor mounts, wing saddles and battery bays
More to come.....
I like to use a forward battery compartment and nose made from a solid block of industrial blue foam.....like they would use to ship large items in. This foam has served me very well in motor mounts, wing saddles and battery bays
More to come.....
Dont forget that I get to do the Maiden flight on it
10-15-2013, 06:58 AM
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More fuselage and wing saddle pics......haven't decided yet as to how I will attach the wing, might just permanently glue it on. Working with the motor mount tonite
The last pic is my chosen power train is a combo I really like and have used on other pushers I enjoy flying......Grayson 2208-12 1800kv, 30A esc and CHL 1300 30c 3s.
Nite nite
--Ray
OF COURSE, CHEllIE!
The last pic is my chosen power train is a combo I really like and have used on other pushers I enjoy flying......Grayson 2208-12 1800kv, 30A esc and CHL 1300 30c 3s.
Nite nite
--Ray
OF COURSE, CHEllIE!
